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    • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

      Originally posted by Joseph View Post
      From Edik Baghdasaryan:

      Սահմանի ողջ երկայնքով դիրքերի ամրացման աշխատանքներ են տարվել եւ տարվում։ Ամենուր կարելի է տեսնել աշխատող տեխնիկա։ Ղարաբաղի կառավարությունը Ղարաբաղում եղած ամբողջ տեխնիկան մոբիլիզացրել էր եւ հանել առաջնագիծ։ Հաճախ վտանգել են իրենց կյանքը աշխատողները, բազմաթիվ անգամ հակառակորդը կրակել է նրանց ուղղությամբ։ Այստեղ ասում են՝ քսան տարում այնքան գործ չի արվել, որքան մեկ ամսվա ընթացքում։

      NKR positions along the border are constantly being reinforced. Everywhere you can see working/digging equipment. Karabakh government was mobilized and utilized all the equipment in Karabakh frontline. Often workers risked their lives, many times by enemy fire in their direction . Here, they say more work has been done in the last month than over 20 years
      That has to be worrying.

      What does the higher echelons of our forces have to say about that.

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      Politics is not about the pursuit of morality nor what's right or wrong
      Its about self interest at personal and national level often at odds with the above.
      Great politicians pursue the National interest and small politicians personal interests

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      • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

        Originally posted by Federate View Post
        How many people knew where or what a Lele Tepe was before the Four Day War? That's its value.
        There are many places that I do not know about Armenia.

        The same I could say about the country I live in.

        Can we imagine if our politicians started saying we shall not give a single cm of land that I know of.

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        Politics is not about the pursuit of morality nor what's right or wrong
        Its about self interest at personal and national level often at odds with the above.
        Great politicians pursue the National interest and small politicians personal interests

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        • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

          Originally posted by AbuSindi View Post
          LOL same thing happened with my video.
          I have it on Google Drive though.

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          • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

            Don't be surprised when you hear Serj saying we lost land and we dont want those 8km because our soldiers' lives are more important.
            It's just a media stunt.
            Those positions will be retaken one after the other.

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              • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

                Correct me if I'm wrong.
                Although I'm not familiar with "lele tepe" (sp?), enough description through much conversation brings me to this picture.
                If one. Is at the high point of the patch we lost and one looks toward artsahk, then you look down a ravine to the next rise. You cannot see much as the Armenian side is mountainous and in that direction our forces (Armenian) are on three sides.
                If one looks in the direction of the azer turcs however then one can see the sloping down to the wide flat land that extends to the caspian.
                The advantage only exists if we control the hilltop but does not exist if the azer turc controls the high point.
                If in Armenian control then we can see all the broad flats of azer turc. But if in azer turc hands then they have limited sight and have to go downhill to ravine bottom only to be required to go back uphill steeply where we are surrounding them.
                The value to the azer turc is worthless.
                A strategic value to us but not to the azer turc.
                Not worth one Armenian life. I'd be willing to give my old toenail clippings but none of my friends.
                We'll take it at our discretion and no sooner.

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                • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

                  Originally posted by Etchmiadzin View Post
                  I think this is the hill they captured and still holding but im not 100% sure.

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                  Originally posted by AbuSindi View Post
                  Recently someone had posted a google earth image of Lele Tepe. It showed all three of our positions surrounding the hill. I cannot find it. Does anyone have it saved? I need it. It's pretty urgent.
                  I only found this one

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                  • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

                    Greece freezes Poseidon pipeline talks over Turkey-Russia deadlock


                    EXCLUSIVE / Athens is not planning to advance talks on the Russia-backed Poseidon pipeline, seen as a direct competitor to the EU-backed TAP pipeline, during a forthcoming visit of Russian President Vladimir Putin’s to the country.

                    Greece on Tuesday (17 May) launched construction on a 550-kilometre section of the Trans-Adriatic Pipeline (TAP), with Prime Minister Alexis Tsipras eager for the 8,000 jobs it will bring to the country’s crisis-hit economy.

                    Planned to operate from 2019, the TAP pipeline will bring gas from the vast Azerbaijani Shah Deniz 2 offshore gas field, via western Turkey, to Greece, Albania and across the Adriatic to Italy.

                    Tsipras said the pipeline would usher Greece and Europe into a “new era.”

                    “TAP is one of the greatest direct foreign investment projects carried out in Greece,” Tsipras said at the ceremony held in Thessaloniki.

                    A direct competitor to the offshore TAP section is Poseidon, a Gazprom-driven offshore pipeline project to bring Russian gas from Greece to Italy. A “Memorandum of Understanding” to develop Poseidon was signed on 24 February between Gazprom, Italy’s Edison and Greece’s DEPA public gas supply corporation.

                    But it is not clear yet how the Russian gas will reach Greece in the first place, with two options currently on the table ― via Turkey or Bulgaria.

                    “No essential result”

                    Russian President Vladimir Putin is expected in Athens on 28 May and reports in Athens suggest energy will be high in the agenda. Some reports suggested Poseidon would feature in the talks as well.

                    However, EurActiv.com has learnt that the main focus of Putin’s visit to Greece will not be on energy issues.

                    Diplomatic sources close to the issue told EurActiv.com that there would be a discussion over energy but with “no essential result”.

                    “Taking into account the bilateral relations between Turkey and Russia, no discussion on energy issues could make a progress,” the sources stressed.

                    Indeed, following the downing of the Russian jet at the Syria-Turkey border on 24 November 2015, the relations between Moscow and Ankara have deteriorated hugely, and the project called “Turkish Stream” to bring Russian gas across the Black Sea to the European territory of Turkey has been shelved.

                    EXCLUSIVE / Athens is not planning to advance talks on the Russia-backed Poseidon pipeline, seen as a direct competitor to the EU-backed TAP pipeline, during a forthcoming visit of Russian President Vladimir Putin’s to the country.

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                    • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

                      Su-25s being modernized in Georgia.

                      Photos: http://tam.ge/ge/foto-galerea/details/4

                      Story: http://razm.info/83597

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