Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

[ASALA2116]

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Tryin' hard now..tryin' really hard now

Stupid dogs. That's all they are good at. Raping ,burning and killing.

[Eddo211]

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In that sandy trenches I would much prefer an AK than any western weapon. And I have experience to back up.
About 2 years ago we were shooting at Ojai range when both our AR15s started jamming up. No matter what we did after every lengthy cleaning (15 minutes at least) only 10-15 rounds later they kept jamming. Jamming, I mean bolts stopped closing fully even after forcing them hard.
Later, I found out that our ammo was a mix of 5.56 and .223. Both the same round, but one a military and the other cyvilian grade. I think 5.56 being a bit hotter load had done this jamming by dirtying up the pistons.
I love the AK.
I have put every kind of ammo, Russian, Bulgarian, Romanian, Serbian, some even I don't know from where and it run everything tru without a hiccup.

There are AR-15s and then there are Special Forces AR-15 which do not jam. Hard to find and very expensive rifle ($4000+).

AK-47 Military ammo and most military ammo is corrosive powder and its sealed (red sealant) which once fired flies everywhere and could jam a AR-15 with tight tolerances compared to AK with loose tolerances.
Shooting none corrosive ammo sometimes will blow out most of the crap out of the rifle. It may help those lower end AR-15s between shooting military ammo and then none corrosive ammo.

My AK has over 5000 rds through it and it was a hassle to clean it due to those red sealant getting eveywhere. I found out if I shoot 30 rds of none corrosive ammo after I am finished for the day, the inside of my AK was clean as it could be.

An AK will eat any kind of 7.62X39 and ask for more........that is one hungry rifle

You are right about the new NATO ammo.......it tears your inside apart where an AK-47 round will punch a hole at close distance. However the 7.62X39 will srtart a wobble after two hundred meters and becomes very deadly.

AK not accurate? Iron sight up to 300 meters 4MOA.....scope them out to 600 meters 7MOA human chest size target.

[Hakob]

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I'm sorry but Muslims don't think like that. Muslims call there fighters shahids and fighting against the aggressor which is supposedly us is Jihad which they will go to Jannah (heaven). They believe in the phrase , kill one martyr and we will have 10 more reaady.. When losing ground you are creating hope. To save a few soldiers is idiotic because if we think like that we not going to have any land left.

You are contradicting yourself.
Saving fiew soldiers by us is not against Azeri aggression or related to their propaganda in any way. It is simply for us. For moral of our soldiers and people. You said it yourself. They think they go to heaven. That means they will come to die regardless they win or loose. Their philosophy is to prepare their population to die as long as you are there.
Them winning a meter or kilometer or nothing at all does not matter. Their victory is when they're ready to die.
For us, on the other hand, nobody can fool with heaven or false news of large land victory.
For us is the defense of family, friends, our buddies next to us in trenches and all together our society.
If our soldier sees that his government sacrifices him and his friends for fiew hundred square meters just so people like you do not criticise it, he will loose moral and will not put his life.
Our soldier trusts his commander to put him in front of fire only for things that are very dear to him. Not for publicity and specialy our soldier does not give a f u c k what enemy and computer generals think or believe.
So our government and high command are very aware of value of each meter versus each soldiers life.
President, defense minister and others declared that particular parcels were not worth any more sacrifices and they are 100% correct.
Whatever anybody thinks, our army, government and I don't give a damn. That is what good reality is.

[argin]

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PanARMENIAN.Net - Mobile
Off topic but..

The Eurasian Economic Union (EEU) may sign a free trade agreement with Israel in 2017, Eurasian Economic Commission’s Minister of Trade said Thursday, May 19, local media report.

"We want to begin talks on a free trade deal with Israel and possibly conclude it already next year," Veronika Nikishina said on the sidelines of the ASEAN — Russia Business Forum in the Russian city of Sochi.

The EEU Commission wants to create a schedule with different non-member countries on possible free trade pacts, she added.

China, Iran and Israel would top the list, Nikishina added, stressing that the EEU research groups are completing the study of potential benefits for deals with India and Egypt. There is also a long-term perspective of a deal with South Korea, the minister added.

Cambodia and Singapore have filed formal requests for considering a similar agreement with the EEU, Nikishina stated.

[Hakob]

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There are AR-15s and then there are Special Forces AR-15 which do not jam. Hard to find and very expensive rifle ($4000+).

AK-47 Military ammo and most military ammo is corrosive powder and its sealed (red sealant) which once fired flies everywhere and could jam a AR-15 with tight tolerances compared to AK with loose tolerances.
Shooting none corrosive ammo sometimes will blow out most of the crap out of the rifle. It may help those lower end AR-15s between shooting military ammo and then none corrosive ammo.

My AK has over 5000 rds through it and it was a hassle to clean it due to those red sealant getting eveywhere. I found out if I shoot 30 rds of none corrosive ammo after I am finished for the day, the inside of my AK was clean as it could be.

An AK will eat any kind of 7.62X39 and ask for more........that is one hungry rifle

You are right about the new NATO ammo.......it tears your inside apart where an AK-47 round will punch a hole at close distance. However the 7.62X39 will srtart a wobble after two hundred meters and becomes very deadly.

AK not accurate? Iron sight up to 300 meters 4MOA.....scope them out to 600 meters 7MOA human chest size target.

Fully agree. Most combat is under 300 meters anyway, so Ak is good for the job.
I also think that the diffrence in kill numbers between western and third world countries is because of training. Give enough range time to your soldier and teach him to aim correctly and all the time( which you don't see with all those third world soldiers) and you soldier with Ak will not be any less that Nato soldier.
I also like new Russian AK s where they moved rear sight from front of receiver to the rear of it, maximizing the distance between front and rear sights, making it very accurate.

[Hakob]

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https://youtu.be/lJs9sBBjLls

Watch this about AK107.
This is what I wish we could get from Russia

[armnuke]

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PanARMENIAN.Net - Mobile
Off topic but..

The Eurasian Economic Union (EEU) may sign a free trade agreement with Israel in 2017, Eurasian Economic Commission’s Minister of Trade said Thursday, May 19, local media report.

"We want to begin talks on a free trade deal with Israel and possibly conclude it already next year," Veronika Nikishina said on the sidelines of the ASEAN — Russia Business Forum in the Russian city of Sochi.

The EEU Commission wants to create a schedule with different non-member countries on possible free trade pacts, she added.

China, Iran and Israel would top the list, Nikishina added, stressing that the EEU research groups are completing the study of potential benefits for deals with India and Egypt. There is also a long-term perspective of a deal with South Korea, the minister added.

Cambodia and Singapore have filed formal requests for considering a similar agreement with the EEU, Nikishina stated.

Tajikistan will join it next, Russia wrote off Uzbekistan's debts to make it join too.
As for those free trade deals, it was planned to have it first with Vietnam, but nothing yet.
I'm so proud as an Armenia to be in a xxxxing union with these -stan countries.

[AbuSindi]

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https://youtu.be/lJs9sBBjLls
Watch this about AK107.
This is what I wish we could get from Russia

That rifle is awesome. It packs some extreme power. The counter balance action drastically improves accuracy too. Basically they took the AK and just made it deadlier. We should definitely try to get some for our boys. How much do you think these would cost if we purchased them from Russia at their domestic prices?

[Hakob]

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That rifle is awesome. It packs some extreme power. The counter balance action drastically improves accuracy too. Basically they took the AK and just made it deadlier. We should definitely try to get some for our boys. How much do you think these would cost if we purchased them from Russia at their domestic prices?

Better would be if we paid them for license and tech to produce our selfs only for our army. After all we are allies.

[burjuin]

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