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Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

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  • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

    Yak-52..really!
    Using WWII technology in 2016. Bravo!

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    • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

      Armenia Will Have to Return Areas to Azerbaijan - Russian Expert

      Serzh Sargsyan will have to return Azerbaijan regions surrounding Nagorno-Karabakh. In an interview with Mediametrics.ru it was said by Alexei Fenenko, expert of the elite Russian club Valdai, a leading researcher at the Institute for International Security Academy of Sciences, Associate Professor of the Faculty of Global Politics of Lomonosov Moscow State University.

      According to him, the Karabakh conflict in April finally buried the Madrid principles on the settlement of the problem. Now Russia is beginning to "divide the negotiating process into three parts: it will separately speak on Nagorno-Karabakh, 5 districts surrounding it, and two more districts (Lachin and Kelbajar). There will be three different negotiating packages, which is the essence of the current Russian strategy."

      "The official position of Russia is closer to Azerbaijan than Armenia. The position of the Russian Federation consists of three points:

      We recognize Azerbaijan's territorial integrity, and recognize that officially Nagorno-Karabakh is a part of Azerbaijan;

      2. We are opposed to a military solution;

      3. The guarantees of Russia and the CSTO to Armenia shall not apply to Karabakh. It is enough to read the statements of the Russian Foreign Ministry in order to understand this," said the Russian expert.

      According to Fenenko, Moscow’s discontent about Sargsyan grows. "But if we exert a constant pressure on Armenia, Armenia will just explode and we will have another anti-Russian state," the expert said. Nevertheless, Moscow, according to Fenenko, puts more pressure on Armenia than Azerbaijan.

      When asked by Mediametrics.ru, why the details of the Karabakh negotiations are held in the strictest secrecy, the Valdai Club expert noted that Russia is very afraid of "hot heads in Armenia." In addition, the Russian authorities are afraid of the Russian public discontent and accusations of the Kremlin of giving up another ally. Therefore any specifics, according to Mr. Fenenko, could blow up the situation.

      According to his calculations, the negotiation process around Nagorno-Karabakh should be clarified until February-March 2017. Prior to this, no large escalation in the Karabakh front will be apparently expected. -02D-

      http://contact.az/docs/2016/Intervie...m#.V5sU4_yKTIU

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      • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

        Originally posted by armnuke View Post
        Yak-52..really!
        Using WWII technology in 2016. Bravo!
        The Yakovlev Yak-52 (Russian: Яковлев Як-52) is a Soviet primary trainer aircraft which first flew in 1976. It is still being produced in Romania by Aerostar, which gained manufacturing rights under agreement within the now defunct COMECON socialist trade organisation. The Yak-52 was designed originally as an aerobatic trainer for students in the Soviet DOSAAF training organisation, which trained both civilian sport pilots and military pilots.

        Since the early 1990s and the fall of the Soviet Union, many Yak 52s have been exported to the west. Of the approximately 1,800 produced to date, most now fly in the United States, United Kingdom, New Zealand, Australia and other western countries.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yakovlev_Yak-52

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          102nd Russian military base In Gyumri, Armenia.
          A military exercise took place in 'Alagyaz' polygon

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            Nagorno-Karabakh Defense Army









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            • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

              Originally posted by armnuke View Post
              Armenia Will Have to Return Areas to Azerbaijan - Russian Expert

              Serzh Sargsyan will have to return Azerbaijan regions surrounding Nagorno-Karabakh. In an interview with Mediametrics.ru it was said by Alexei Fenenko, expert of the elite Russian club Valdai, a leading researcher at the Institute for International Security Academy of Sciences, Associate Professor of the Faculty of Global Politics of Lomonosov Moscow State University.

              According to him, the Karabakh conflict in April finally buried the Madrid principles on the settlement of the problem. Now Russia is beginning to "divide the negotiating process into three parts: it will separately speak on Nagorno-Karabakh, 5 districts surrounding it, and two more districts (Lachin and Kelbajar). There will be three different negotiating packages, which is the essence of the current Russian strategy."

              "The official position of Russia is closer to Azerbaijan than Armenia. The position of the Russian Federation consists of three points:

              We recognize Azerbaijan's territorial integrity, and recognize that officially Nagorno-Karabakh is a part of Azerbaijan;

              2. We are opposed to a military solution;

              3. The guarantees of Russia and the CSTO to Armenia shall not apply to Karabakh. It is enough to read the statements of the Russian Foreign Ministry in order to understand this," said the Russian expert.

              According to Fenenko, Moscow’s discontent about Sargsyan grows. "But if we exert a constant pressure on Armenia, Armenia will just explode and we will have another anti-Russian state," the expert said. Nevertheless, Moscow, according to Fenenko, puts more pressure on Armenia than Azerbaijan.

              When asked by Mediametrics.ru, why the details of the Karabakh negotiations are held in the strictest secrecy, the Valdai Club expert noted that Russia is very afraid of "hot heads in Armenia." In addition, the Russian authorities are afraid of the Russian public discontent and accusations of the Kremlin of giving up another ally. Therefore any specifics, according to Mr. Fenenko, could blow up the situation.

              According to his calculations, the negotiation process around Nagorno-Karabakh should be clarified until February-March 2017. Prior to this, no large escalation in the Karabakh front will be apparently expected. -02D-

              http://contact.az/docs/2016/Intervie...m#.V5sU4_yKTIU
              This is a good post to show essentially how the Russian mindset is. According to Russia, even though Armenia is forced to give up everything it has fought for and be absorbed into Russia, they have to do this delicately in order not to turn Armenia into another "anti-Russian state." Essentially, how can we phuck over these people the hardest way possible and manage to control them not disliking us? Essentially acknowledging that all they're here on this planet to do is to make miserable the lives of the people they want to control.

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                Nagorno-Karabakh Defense Army






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                  • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

                    Originally posted by HyeSocialist View Post
                    This is a good post to show essentially how the Russian mindset is. According to Russia, even though Armenia is forced to give up everything it has fought for and be absorbed into Russia, they have to do this delicately in order not to turn Armenia into another "anti-Russian state." Essentially, how can we phuck over these people the hardest way possible and manage to control them not disliking us? Essentially acknowledging that all they're here on this planet to do is to make miserable the lives of the people they want to control.
                    Sit with Azerbaijan , give them lands and make friends with Turkey , drawing a map of reconciliation.. Russia can phuck off then. Would we do such a thing ? No. Another thing we can do is ask the Diaspora for help , tell them Russia's plans , reveal it to the world and be prepared for war. Lastly which I believe will eventually happen. Take it up the arrse like dogs.

                    Armenians in Armenia are not intelligent people. I saw a video of a man trying to burn himself alive as protest. I remembered how the Kurds did that when Ocalan was captured. My father said look at how stupid the Kurds are. We laughed. Today I was shocked to see our very own.

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                    • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

                      Originally posted by ASALA2116 View Post
                      Sit with Azerbaijan , give them lands and make friends with Turkey , drawing a map of reconciliation.. Russia can phuck off then. Would we do such a thing ? No. Another thing we can do is ask the Diaspora for help , tell them Russia's plans , reveal it to the world and be prepared for war. Lastly which I believe will eventually happen. Take it up the arrse like dogs.

                      Armenians in Armenia are not intelligent people. I saw a video of a man trying to burn himself alive as protest. I remembered how the Kurds did that when Ocalan was captured. My father said look at how stupid the Kurds are. We laughed. Today I was shocked to see our very own.
                      Before thinking of facing all the challenges and turning to diaspora etc., Armenian people have to put the house n order ASAP.
                      And about self immolation, don't know about Kurds, but usually this things are harbingers of awfully serious things to come.
                      Places like indochina usually revolutions or such are triggered by this. Not stupid.
                      Extreme maybe.
                      But it's a simbolic of a sector not willing to keep living as it does.
                      how can you say people in Armenia are not intelligent? That is not a very intelligent thing to say.
                      Pavlic's action is a sacrifice. Soldier holding the trench to death is a sacrifice. Someone burning himself to affect public's resoluteness and actions is a sacrifice too. I do not agree to it. But who's to say that it's stupid?
                      Last edited by Hakob; 07-31-2016, 12:51 AM.

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