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Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

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  • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

    Originally posted by armnuke View Post
    This guy lost my respect


    Pavlik Jan caved tanem. Ba hamberutyuned ur mnats?

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    • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

      Originally posted by ASALA2116 View Post
      If I'm not mistaken Pavel Manukyan is one of the people holding the place up. This is a guy I used to put up as my profile pic when I was younger and last year saw at the Nor Hayastan protests in Armenia and thanked for his services to Armenia also adding that he means a lot to many young Armenians around the world. He smiled but couldn't care less. Not your normal fedayi. Think his burning that he hadn't become rich like his other comrades.
      Wrong assessment at the end brother. He has been burning that some fedayees became rich by the means they did. Not fit for a patriot.

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      • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

        The Fedayis who deserves respect are the ones who went to Artsakh in april, this is just stupidity playing with peoples fears claiming the reason Sefilyan was arrested is because Serj plans to give up territory not because he was planning armed rebellion well his friends really made him look innocent now. Security services have probably for a long time had surveillance on these guys knowing they were planning something

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        • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

          Sefilian's and some like him have had an erratic behavior lately. And Pavlik too. Last few years I have seen several interviews by Pavlic desperately criticizing government for corruption and oligarkhy.
          But it may be a mistake in mixing up social issues with Artsakh issue.
          Electric Yerevan was a social uprising.
          All this may be brought upon by Sefillian's arrest which his side insists is made up( planted evidence etc.).
          Anyway, I don't think this is wise, to waist this quality people when they could be used better when time came.
          Last edited by Hakob; 07-17-2016, 11:32 AM.

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          • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

            Originally posted by londontsi View Post
            We have started to kill our own.

            Poor leadership by SS.

            Making too many concessions and not taking his people with him.

            Apparently he has agreed to withdraw from certain areas without anything in return.

            Underneath he is a weak person.

            He has made many many counter threats as well announcements which he has not carried out.

            The enemy is not stupid.

            PS As well as lie to the people about war results and significance of losses.
            Unforgivable in any culture except maybe among tukic mongols
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            He is a coke head

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                Politics is not about the pursuit of morality nor what's right or wrong
                Its about self interest at personal and national level often at odds with the above.
                Great politicians pursue the National interest and small politicians personal interests

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                • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

                  Originally posted by Azad View Post
                  AK or AR are not only assault rifles they are commodities with their ammunitions. They are so reliable and mass produced that you cannot even come close on building anything in their price range.
                  Your typical AK by the time it is issued to some military at $200-$300 it will be around for 50+ years, will be traded across the globe with multiple governments and most likely they will see their grave yards in some miserable African or South American rebel groups. Also, Armenia makes its own ammunition for AK. Aspar Arms builds beautiful but mostly modified rifles that are nothing close to the AK “commodity” price rifle. Don’t underestimate the AK it is very reliable for harsh environments. The one thing it lacks is accuracy on the long range. I would take the AK any day for general defense.
                  How long of a range you mean. If its over 600 yrds then yes. The 7.62x39 has a rainbow trajectory and it becomes a reach at 1000 yrds even with best scopes. However anything less than 700 yrds you cannot blame the AK, it is the shooter's inexperience on long shots with AK.

                  The AR-15s, most are junk and can't stand abuse and you must puppy them. I see this at the range where the AR-15s jam while I keep going with my AK. unless you have the same $5000-6000 range ARs used by special forces you are out of luck.

                  It is very important to zero your AK iron sights properly and learn how to snipe out to 300-400 yrds. After that you need a good scope to extend your range to 600-700 yrds.
                  B0zkurt Hunter

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                  • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

                    I think we are going to surrender land .. I believe Sargsyans plan is to give back some of the lands , only if the status of Nagorno - Karabagh as An interim state is met. We are going to sacrifice as Azerbaijan is too. Funny how Russians invade Crimes and annex it all in one day and for Armenia they bend our arm. Man we surely got no friends.

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                    • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

                      Interim status of Nagorno Karabagh would be a major disaster for Armenians..

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