Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

[ArmeniaR1]

Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

its not a secret azeri army is gay... they once showd us they fight like woman...

[arakeretzig]

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The reason for the bloody incident in the Azerbaijani army was sexual abuse
A bloody incident that took place in the Azerbaijani army on February 20 was the violence of a sexual nature. Recall that the Azerbaijani soldier shot the fellow with a machine gun, then killed himself. Total killed seven people.

According to our reliable sources, who shot his co-workers repeatedly sexually abused by them, which led to the tragic outcome for both offenders and for their sacrifices.

Note that the rape in the Azerbaijani army had already led to armed incidents, and the courts of the Azerbaijani army, raping co-workers are not uncommon.

Adjudication on the most high-profile such case was passed on June 7 this year. Azerbaijani servicemen Emin Bagirov Togrul Rahimov and were sentenced to life imprisonment, and Yusif Yusifov - 15 years' imprisonment. They were accused of rape 28 regular soldiers of his platoon commanders, and killing, which began an investigation of their crimes. Azerbaijani soldiers were killed by platoon commander Lieutenant Tagiyev, and his deputy, Lieutenant Emrahov.

/ Panorama.am /

This happens in all militaries. No exceptions. To pretend it doesn't happen is like pretending the sun doesn't set in the west.
Military is like a prison. No women around, and some people will do anything to satisfy their urges.
This exactly why the mafia doesn't punish their own men who get raped in prison. You get a pass for that. but if you're seen in a gay night club, you're dead meat.

[Mos]

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Excelent idea....if ADF (Armenian Defence Force ) can effort to spend a little more this will be a great move.

We should have a para-military force (Karabakh Liberation Army) that is a volunteer force of soldiers that get paid, but are very skilled and highly trained. It would have high tech weapons from various sources and would actively recruit Armenians from diaspora, and even willing foreigners.

[londontsi]

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its not a secret azeri army is gay...

http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=51938

I came across this website.
I think its hilarious.

[Armanen]

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http://forums.cybernations.net/index...howtopic=51938

I came across this website.
I think its hilarious.

People with way too much time on their hands!

[Tigranakert]

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Russian side does not confirm reports on Mi-35 supplies to Azerbaijan

February 24, 2011 | 21:15
The Russian Rostvertol Company has not confirmed information about supplying Azerbaijan with Mi-35 helicopters. Talking to RFE/RL correspondent company’s representative refused to officially confirm the reports.

Meanwhile the Azerbaijani press reported today the Rostvertol Company and Azerbaijan signed a contract last year providing for the delivery of 24 Mi-35 helicopters.

Mi-35 is designed for destroying armored vehicles, supporting the infantry, evacuating the injured, and transporting cargoes.

[Mos]

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We need our lobby in Russia doing all it can to persuade Russia to cut military ties with Azerbaijan. We need Russia solely arming us.

[londontsi]

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We need our lobby in Russia doing all it can to persuade Russia to cut military ties with Azerbaijan. We need Russia solely arming us.

Azeris pay with hard cash for their military expenditure, best form of doing business.
There is no shortage of arms suppliers these days in the open or unofficial markets.

If Russia boycotts selling arms to one of its “regular” customers there would be ten suppliers trying to fill the gap.
Therefore end result of your suggestion will not be achieved.

By supplying arms to Azerbaijan, Russia can maintain good links with the Azeri defence establishment.
It can have a good feel of the Azeri capabilities by knowing their purchases first hand.
Russia can maintain itself as an honest broker in all diplomatic developments, unlike say Turkey.
Worse of all it it would be like pushing Azerbaijan to be under the umbrella of another power (Turkey, US?).

Under the circumstances its best to try to live with present realities and concentrate on own defence to counter any new threats.

[AstalaVist]

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[Eddo211]

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We should have a para-military force (Karabakh Liberation Army) that is a volunteer force of soldiers that get paid, but are very skilled and highly trained. It would have high tech weapons from various sources and would actively recruit Armenians from diaspora, and even willing foreigners.

Mos, that is a great idea but it takes organization and lots of money to setup. There are many Armenians who do have military background from the respective country they live in that must be reached including logistic and support volunteers in none combat fields.

As far as weapons that would be very difficult (plus there will be lots of weapons on the battlefield) and such organization must have legality behind it with cooperation with Armenia’s Military of Defence, be able to travel to different countries to enter Armenia (Spetanakert) if war breaks out.
I would think you will need a couple of ex-military officers and a few patriotic Armenian businessmen to work in conjunction once it is determined that there is a big enough pool of volunteers to setup a small force like that. Training can come later including background security checks on each volunteer (which they themselves may have to pay for, including travel).

Azeris pay with hard cash for their military expenditure, best form of doing business.
There is no shortage of arms suppliers these days in the open or unofficial markets.

If Russia boycotts selling arms to one of its “regular” customers there would be ten suppliers trying to fill the gap.
Therefore end result of your suggestion will not be achieved.

By supplying arms to Azerbaijan, Russia can maintain good links with the Azeri defence establishment.
It can have a good feel of the Azeri capabilities by knowing their purchases first hand.
Russia can maintain itself as an honest broker in all diplomatic developments, unlike say Turkey.
Worse of all it it would be like pushing Azerbaijan to be under the umbrella of another power (Turkey, US?).

Under the circumstances its best to try to live with present realities and concentrate on own defence to counter any new threats.

You are aware that the US and Turkey are spending hundreds of millions modernizing Azeri airfields with state of the art installations from advanced traffic control systems to runway precision lighting approach system and navigational facilities. Also they are setting up a advanced control and command center for Azeri Airforce and radar stations off the Caspian and Iranian border. Aliyev wants more radars pointed at Armenia but that hasn’t happened yet. US is also training Azeri soldiers supposedly for tours in Afghanistan but Aliyev wants to keep them in Azerbaijan after training….all of this while Russia gives them another 24 combat helicopters (Azerbaijan must hold the record now if this is true for number of Mi-24s).