Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

[arakeretzig]

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What is Alievs excuse ,inflicting deaths at Armenian proper,what this soldiers have to with Artsach Republic at all ?

I am very angry i expect comments from CSTO administration and Russian officials about this actions and how exactly they wish the " peace process to be continued ".

more bla bla bla as usual.

azeris will get theirs some day.

[Yerevanski92]

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[Vahram]

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This is nonsense!

Kedem vor espasenk avelee love e gas bedi verchana pitz ( This is bull sheet )

We don't need an all out war to teach them a lesson. Polotics was not what won the first war and it is not going to win the second one! We don't need an all out war but we do need to teach a lesson. They are getting brave time to cut off the ballz!

http://www.eurasianet.org/node/61136

gaz chibidi mena!

[Haykakan]

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This article is 2 years old man

This is nonsense!

Kedem vor espasenk avelee love e gas bedi verchana pitz ( This is bull sheet )

We don't need an all out war to teach them a lesson. Polotics was not what won the first war and it is not going to win the second one! We don't need an all out war but we do need to teach a lesson. They are getting brave time to cut off the ballz!

http://www.eurasianet.org/node/61136

gaz chibidi mena!

[Vahram]

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Who's side are you on man? I was making a point nice to water it down, feeling better about yourself now?

http://asbarez.com/103423/clinton-calls-soldier-deaths-%e2%80%98senseless%e2%80%99/

So what do you think Clinton will say in Baku? " Hey Alieve how is your hair doing " ?

Maybe if we were all so serious we would not have to wait for anyone to talk! Talk about oil, ( Clinton ) " How is your oil wealth"

HA HA Clinton and your prez has been talking the same sheet for years, funny you did not point that out!

I wonder what she will ask in Baku....Ahhhh! Same sheet different day!

You think she will say the G word?

Getze Hayastan!

[Vrej1915]

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http://razm.info/5666

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basically, the 6 wounded have all very heavy wounds.
That means we may consider not 3, but 9 KO we had yesterday night.
They are taking advantage of a portion of front where they have the ground advantage, they choose the timing, use costly night vision equipment, well trained commandos, against poorly armed ordinary conscripts.
It is too easy, and would be repeated, unless something very painful done.
In Tchinari, our positions are very bad, due to the fact, that in 91-92 we did not manage to control the hills that are territory of RA, and they took most positions, control of irrigation dams, etc..., plus the terrain is covered with deep vegetation, helping dyversias.
The sector more to he north, against Nerkin Garmiraghpyour, is even harder, since geologically, there are some huge rock mountains, dominating our villages and lines, that are impossible to get by frontal attack, even diversions, etc..., it will cost too many lives.
The only way to solve the physical problem is to get much deeper in their territory, at least 10 Km deep, and surrond the territory, like a fortress: it would mean war.
So if physically we will not destroy these positions, the only way, is to hit them so hard elsewhere, so that we may have some calm out of fear we may inspire.
It is a fact, that the deterrence and the terror we inspired in 94 is no more.
We must make sure, their terror is renewed.
There are not so many options. Among others:
1- We may hit hard the clan state/oil sector pocket by stopping transit for weeks, by a targeted attack, wich will cose minimal human losses.
2- We may terrorise their actual elite troops, by wiping out totally an actual dyversia section, and showing their bodies on TV, as an example for futur candidates.
3- We may terrorise their HQ, by changing the frontline on an important sector, where we have the advantage, and capture a big chunk of terrain, in the process paying dozens of lives of our good boys.
4- We may hit hard their population, at such painful cost, that would sent thousands fleeing on the roads...

Given realpoliticks and practical aspects, I still think the most cost effective solution is the first one.
I am sure miss Hillary would understand, and not blame us...
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The reply must be much more, than anyone in Baku can imagine we may do.
If not, there is no deterrence.
And if needed, the hell with their civilians.
Or Oil, or a town wiped out, far behind the lines.
If Israel is an exception, than it is maybe time to prove exceptions tend to be repeated, when equation is the same...
Killing 15 or 30 askars will give nothing more.
Unfortunately, the more you let time pass, the less you can act.
I still think the solution of March 2008 adopted in Martakert was the most efficient.
We should have called in immediate long range artillery fire on downtown Kazakh, or at least the villages they sleep in.

[Vahram]

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"The sector more to he north, against Nerkin Garmiraghpyour, is even harder, since geologically, there are some huge rock mountains, dominating our villages and lines, that are impossible to get by frontal attack, even diversions, etc..., it will cost too many lives."

If this is so that means that they can't use this as well as they can't get Armor up those fecking hills. So in a strange way I do understand not doing anything as they can't make any headway into Armenia just make joke attacks. But that does not mean we can't put Commando units here! Let show them how we can handle a few monkies!

If it means war than fine, but 3 years from now is when Revenge will happen. We waited all this time for Revenge! What is a few more years?

Getze Hayastan!

[Vrej1915]

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"The sector more to he north, against Nerkin Garmiraghpyour, is even harder, since geologically, there are some huge rock mountains, dominating our villages and lines, that are impossible to get by frontal attack, even diversions, etc..., it will cost too many lives."

If this is so that means that they can't use this as well as they can't get Armor up those fecking hills. So in a strange way I do understand not doing anything as they can't make any headway into Armenia just make joke attacks. But that does not mean we can't put Commando units here! Let show them how we can handle a few monkies!

If it means war than fine, but 3 years from now is when Revenge will happen. We waited all this time for Revenge! What is a few more years?

Getze Hayastan!

No Vahram, that's not so.
They can perfectly use armor, if they decided to.
Not in the actual Tchinari sector, but most remaining portions.
Look at the first image of this clip:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=qfgLhSaLU3M

This is their most dangerous position, domination all of the Davush district.
And there are 2 or 3 similar rocks all the long to Voskepar.
But this is a real natural fortress.
This mountain is far behind their lines.
They can use armor on all the ground around.

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Concerning revenge.
We do not need more losses to take revenge.
If the question was only the cause for revenge, we have 2 million reasons waiting for a century now...

[Vahram]

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"If the question was only the cause for revenge, we have 2 million reasons waiting for a century now... "

So now I have nothing else to do but worry and cry. Then again we have been crying for a century now.

Wait one minute, let them try :-)

For one thing we are not is tactical fools, does not stop us from crying does it now?..If it does please stop my heart ache ache sometimes I get sick of bing an Armo :-(

But for every thing they have we have 10X, yet still this does not make me happy! But I know one thing, the next war we are going to win too! This is not finished!

A toork is hiding behind one of my mountains and the Yahoodi is edging them on! Let them come everyone else has plans too! Let them come we will finish this one way or another!

I refuse to think that we are sitting ducks waiting for the baboon strike...I will not say any more! Let them come! This is not in the realm of Possibility!

[Vahram]

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There are 11 testaments, No one wrote these words, they were too scared to play with these words. The last testament the testament of blood was written for the the Armenian. Everyone only knows 10 testaments but they forgot the last one the Testament of blood! It was only written for the Armenian!

Who knew there were 11 testaments? Everyone thought there were only 10, they were mistaken!

So we bleed again, so everyone else can say someone else are the people of god...LOL

come on Armo's don't you have a sense of humor? Laugh even god is doing so now!

Minchev verchin ayroon, minchev verchin ayroonin gateeleen. <Translation for retards> Till the last blood, untill the very last drop of blood.

Getze Hayastan!