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Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

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  • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

    Originally posted by gokorik View Post
    Yes it is from the 4 day war.
    After 2:30. I don't think those are ATGM's, those look like artillery shells.
    3:10 is when a ATGM takes out an Azeri tank.
    the 2 hits at 3:10 are ATGM, everything before it is artillery.

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      Artsakh’s Four Day War






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        ATGM shown in a video from front line is 9M111M Faktoriya.

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          War May Resume at `Any Moment,' Armenian President Warns



          No talks with Azeris without security guarantee, Sargsyan says.
          There's no peacekeeping role in Karabakh for Russian troops.

          War can break out “at any moment” in the Caucasus flashpoint of Nagorno-Karabakh and there’s little prospect of talks to resolve the conflict, the president of Armenia said.
          A Russian-brokered truce may not be enough to prevent fighting “on an even larger scale” after four days of war between Azeris and Armenians this month that involved “several hundred tanks” and 30,000 artillery rounds, Serzh Sargsyan said in an interview Saturday at the presidential residence in the Armenian capital, Yerevan.

          It’s “unreasonable” for Armenia to resume peace talks with Azerbaijan over the disputed territory without security guarantees because “the situation is entirely different now,” he said. “On the one hand we’d be talking somewhere while, on the other, military officials would be engaging in war here to try to settle the conflict,” he said.
          The clashes in early April were the worst since a cease-fire 22 years ago halted a war that claimed 30,000 lives and created 1 million refugees. Armenians took over Nagorno-Karabakh and seven surrounding districts of Azerbaijan in the 1991-1994 war. International mediators have failed to negotiate a lasting peace since then in a conflict that threatens to destabilize a region flanked by Russia, Turkey and Iran, while also potentially disrupting a new energy corridor between central Asia and Europe.

          Battle ‘Ultimatum’

          Azerbaijan, the former Soviet Union’s third largest oil producer, has attracted more than $50 billion from BP Plc and its partners in recent years. BP’s oil pipeline which carried 720,000 barrels per day from Baku to the Mediterranean last year runs fewer than 30 miles from the conflict zone at one point.
          About 100 Armenian soldiers and civilians died in the latest fighting,while Azerbaijan said it lost 32 troops. Amid intense international diplomacy to avert war, Sargsyan met with Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov in Yerevan on Friday. Lavrov told Azeri President Ilham Aliyev at talks in Baku on April 6 that Russia has “proposals” for resolving the conflict.
          Lavrov didn’t “bring any new proposals” because “he realizes very well that it doesn’t make sense to talk about negotiations immediately after a four-day war,” Sargsyan said. Battles raged along the full 200-kilometer (124 miles) length of the front line as Azerbaijan tried to punch through to Nagorno-Karabakh itself and then “issue an ultimatum” to the Armenian-held enclave, he said.

          Truce Violations

          Both sides accused each other Monday of conducting new attacks. Armenians broke the truce 130 times in the past day and Azeri forces retaliated with 131 strikes, the Defense Ministry in Baku said on its website. Azeri forces violated the cease-fire 76 times, the Defense Ministry of the Nagorno-Karabakh Republic, which isn’t internationally recognized, said on its website.
          Sargsyan, 61, who’s a former military commander from Nagorno-Karabakh, acknowledged for the first time publicly that Armenians lost some territory in the fighting. Azeri troops took “very small pieces” of land in the north and south of the contact line that “had no strategic importance” for Armenian forces, who didn’t try to reclaim them “to avoid additional losses” of life, he said.

          Russian Peacekeepers


          While the chief of the defense staff in Moscow mediated the cease-fire talks, there’s no place for Russian peacekeepers in the conflict zone to separate the two sides, Sargsyan said. Talk of deploying Russian forces “wasn’t entirely without grounds” in previous peace negotiations, though “I don’t see any such opportunity” now, he said.
          “If there are no negotiations, how can Russian forces appear in Karabakh or between Azeri and Karabakh forces?” Sargsyan said. Russia’s pursuing a “balanced policy” between Armenia and Azerbaijan while seeking to avert “large-scale military conflict,” he said.
          The Nagorno-Karabakh situation is “very fragile,” Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov told reporters on a conference call Monday.
          Armenia has a mutual-defense pact with Russia and hosts its ally’s only military base in the region, though Armenians protested this month outside the Russian embassy in Yerevan over weapons sales to Azerbaijan. Russia will continue selling weapons to Armenia and Azerbaijan as they’re both “our strategic partners,” Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Rogozin said, the Tass news service reported April 8.

          Peace Deal

          Flush with cash before oil prices collapsed, Azerbaijan boosted military spending 10-fold over the last decade to as much as $4.8 billion last year, more than Armenia’s entire state budget. Armenia’s defense budget rose threefold over the same period to $447 million, according to the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute.
          Sargysan said Russian, U.S. and French mediators from the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe must put in place “confidence-building measures” before any new peace talks, and particularly “an investigation mechanism for violations of the cease-fire that would pinpoint exactly which party” was responsible. Armenia also requires “assurances that these kinds of violations will not happen again,” he said.
          The president disclosed that he’d been willing to withdraw Armenian forces from five districts of Azerbaijan and allow in peacekeepers as part of 2011 negotiations with Aliyev in the Russian city of Kazan. The Russian, U.S. and French presidents urged both leaders to sign the agreement, which would also have postponed a final decision on Nagorno-Karabakh’s status, but Aliyev refused, Sargsyan said.
          Azerbaijan says any settlement must be based on respect for its territorial integrity including Nagorno-Karabakh. Armenia says the enclave’s Christian Armenians, who declared independence from largely-Muslim Azerbaijan in 1991 as the Soviet Union collapsed, have the right to self-determination.
          “That was the time when Azerbaijan was enriching itself with oil money and talking about the size of its military budget,” Sargsyan said of the failed 2011 talks. “What took place now should have been expected.”

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            Originally posted by armnuke View Post
            4-Day War, April 4, Aghdam

            Thanks guys!
            General Antranik (1865-1927): “I am not a nationalist. I recognize only one nation, the nation of the oppressed.”

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              Artsakh’s Four Day War





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                    Armenia Sets Conditions For Renewed Talks With Azerbaijan

                    Armenia will not resume negotiations on resolving the Nagorno-Karabakh conflict unless Azerbaijan agrees to safeguards against ceasefire violations proposed by international mediators, President Serzh Sarkisian said on Monday.

                    In an interview with the Bloomberg news agency, Sarkisian also said that heavy fighting along the Armenian-Azerbaijani “line of contact” around Karabakh could again break out “at any moment.” A Russian-brokered truce, which stopped four-day hostilities there on April 5, may not be enough to prevent another flare-up of violence, he warned.

                    Sarkisian made clear that it is “unreasonable” for Armenia to return to peace talks with Azerbaijan without security guarantees because “the situation is entirely different now.” “On the one hand we’d be talking somewhere while, on the other, military officials would be engaging in war here to try to settle the conflict,” he said.

                    Sarkisian said the Russian, U.S. and French mediators acting under the aegis of the OSCE Minsk Group must therefore put in place “confidence-building measures” before any new peace talks. He singled out “an investigation mechanism for violations of the cease-fire that would pinpoint exactly which party” is responsible. Armenia also requires “assurances that these kinds of violations will not happen again,” he added.

                    Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov urged the warring sides to accept these proposed measures without “further delay” during a visit to Yerevan last week. Unlike the Armenian side, Baku has opposed them until now.

                    France’s Secretary of State for European Affairs Harlem Desir also stressed the importance of the safeguards against truce violations on Monday as he visited Yerevan for talks with Armenian leaders dominated by the Karabakh issue. A statement by the Armenian presidential press service said Desir and Sarkisian agreed that the confidence-building measures are critical for renewed Armenian-Azerbaijani peace talks.

                    “The resumption of peace negotiations and introduction of confidence-building mechanisms will be the main focus of the political meetings that I will have in Yerevan today and in Baku tomorrow,” the Armenpress news agency quoted the French official as telling reporters earlier in the day.

                    Sarkisian also told Bloomberg that as things stand now, there is no place for Russian peacekeepers in the conflict zone to separate the two sides. While talk of Russian forces being deployed “wasn’t entirely without grounds” in previous peace negotiations, “I don’t see any such opportunity” now, he said.

                    “If there are no negotiations, how can Russian forces appear in Karabakh or between Azerbaijani and Karabakh forces?” said the Armenian president.

                    Armenia will not resume negotiations on resolving the Nagorno-Karabakh conflict unless Azerbaijan agrees to safeguards against ceasefire violations proposed by international mediators, President Serzh Sarkisian said on Monday.

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                      Վահան Մարտիրոսյանն ուղերձ է հղել «թանկագին ադրբեջանցիներին»

                      «Քաղաքական հալածյալ» Վահան Մարտիրոսյանը, ով ապաստանել էր Ադրբեջանում և վերջերս ընտանյոք հանդերձ տեղափոխվել երրորդ երկիր, haqqin.az-ի միջոցով ուղերձ է հղել, իր իսկ բնորոշմամբ, «թանկագին ադրբեջանցիներին»: Բացի ադրբեջանցիներին և նրանց հյուրընկալությունը գովաբանելուց՝ նա հայտարարել է նաև, թե Բաքվում այժմ ապրում է 40 հզ հայ, թե ադրբեջանցիները ամենախաղաղասեր ժողովուրդն են, թե Ադրբեջանում գործում են հայկական եկեղեցիներ, իսկ հայկական սրբավայրերն այդ երկրում կանգուն են ու խնամված, թե Ադրբեջանում տպագրվում են հայկական թերթեր, հեռարձակվում են հայկական հեռուստահաղորդումներ և այլն: Իր զառանցագին բարբաջանքի վերջում Մարտիրոսյանը նշել է, թե նույնիսկ բնակություն հաստատելով երրորդ երկրում՝ շարունակելու է պայքարել երկու ժողովուրդների բարեկամության համար և Հայաստանն այժմ ղեկավարող քաղաքական ուժերի դեմ:

                      Հիշեցնենք, որ Վահան Մարտիրոսյանը, պատճառաբանելով, թե ենթարկվում է քաղաքական հալածանքների, ապաստան էր խնդրել Ադրբեջանից եւ հատել սահմանը: Վերջինս այսպես կոչված «Ներազգային ազատագրական շարժման» ղեկավարն էր: Նրա հանդեպ հարուցված է եղել նաեւ քրեական գործ: Ադրբեջան անցնելուց հետո, մամուլում տեղ գտած հրապարակումների համաձայն, վրաերթի էր ենթարկվել մայրը, իսկ զոքանչին էլ հեռացրել էին աշխատանքից:

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