What are the borders of Nagorno-Karabakh?

[Catharsis]

Re: What are the borders of Nagorno-Karabakh?

That's true Fed, we need to use the true term "Artsakh".

Yes it is very symbolic since every time we use Karabakh (with all its transliteration variants) we are actually giving credence to the false notion that the land is Turkic.

The ancient name for Stepanakert - Վարարակն - Vararakn should also be put into circulation for perhaps one of the districts of Stepanakert if not restoring the old name altogether.

[Catharsis]

Re: What are the borders of Nagorno-Karabakh?

Thanks Catharsis. Slowly we need to abolish the Nagorno-Karabakh term altogether and only keep it for historical use.

Գլուխ I, Հոդված I, Մաս II՝ Լեռնային Ղարաբաղի Հանրապետություն և Արցախի Հանրապետություն անվանումները նույնական են:

Chapter I, Article I, Section II: The Nagorno Karabakh Republic and Artsakh Republic designations are the same.

Yes indeed Federate we should free ourselves of all signs of foreign subjugation, we liberated the land, but some of us still need to liberate our minds, liberate the place names that for centuries have also been taken captive. By restoring their rightful names we are actually connoting the true origin of the land.

I am sure through all of our efforts we will see the day when Artsakh is restored as the rightful province of Free, Independent and United Armenia. The morale and overall spirit of the people of Artsakh is actually very high and we should all be proud of that.

[Icy]

Re: What are the borders of Nagorno-Karabakh?

Thanks Catharsis. Slowly we need to abolish the Nagorno-Karabakh term altogether and only keep it for historical use.

Գլուխ I, Հոդված I, Մաս II՝ Լեռնային Ղարաբաղի Հանրապետություն և Արցախի Հանրապետություն անվանումները նույնական են:

Chapter I, Article I, Section II: The Nagorno Karabakh Republic and Artsakh Republic designations are the same.

That's true Fed, we need to use the true term "Artsakh".

[Federate]

Re: What are the borders of Nagorno-Karabakh?

It is fixed in the constitution of Artsakh (Part I, Article I).

Thanks Catharsis. Slowly we need to abolish the Nagorno-Karabakh term altogether and only keep it for historical use.

Գլուխ I, Հոդված I, Մաս II՝ Լեռնային Ղարաբաղի Հանրապետություն և Արցախի Հանրապետություն անվանումները նույնական են:

Chapter I, Article I, Section II: The Nagorno Karabakh Republic and Artsakh Republic designations are the same.

[Haykakan]

Re: What are the borders of Nagorno-Karabakh?

It is fixed in the constitution of Artsakh (Part I, Article I). Additionaly, I have talked to the president of the Republic of Artsakh Bako Sahakyan, who agreed that the use of Artsakh must be used for several reasons listed below:

1. It is the proper ancient Armenian name pre-dating the Turkic by millennia.

2. It includes a much broader territory encompassing parts that are to the North of the present boundaries that are today not within the Republic of Artsakh, however the correction of the name would also underline the Armenian nature of these lands in the northern Artsakh-Utik'.

3. The 'Nagorno Karabakh Republic' as I outlined above, is a rather weird amalgamation of three (or four if you will) language words, none of them Armenian that obviously do not reflect the nature and character of Artsakh.

4. 'Nagorno (lit. Mountainous) Karabagh' Republic today includes territories that are well beyond the so-called mountainous areas, including lowlands near the Arax river border (Kovsakan, Mijnavan, etc.) which once again do not reflect the true nature of Artsakh with the imposed "Nagorno-Karabakh Autonomous Oblast" - once again a monstrocity of the word once put into English because the "o" ending of Nagorno" is a Russian suffix (masculine gender) transcribed into English, that is used in Russian to - in this case - bridge two words.

To sum - the whole wording use is wrong on so many levels.

I agree, Artsakh is a far better name then the russian word which is more of a description then a name.

[Catharsis]

Re: What are the borders of Nagorno-Karabakh?

That's excellent news, do you have a source for it?

It is fixed in the constitution of Artsakh (Part I, Article I). Additionaly, I have talked to the president of the Republic of Artsakh Bako Sahakyan, who agreed that the use of Artsakh must be used for several reasons listed below:

1. It is the proper ancient Armenian name pre-dating the Turkic by millennia.

2. It includes a much broader territory encompassing parts that are to the North of the present boundaries that are today not within the Republic of Artsakh, however the correction of the name would also underline the Armenian nature of these lands in the northern Artsakh-Utik'.

3. The 'Nagorno Karabakh Republic' as I outlined above, is a rather weird amalgamation of three (or four if you will) language words, none of them Armenian that obviously do not reflect the nature and character of Artsakh.

4. 'Nagorno (lit. Mountainous) Karabagh' Republic today includes territories that are well beyond the so-called mountainous areas, including lowlands near the Arax river border (Kovsakan, Mijnavan, etc.) which once again do not reflect the true nature of Artsakh with the imposed "Nagorno-Karabakh Autonomous Oblast" - once again a monstrocity of the word once put into English because the "o" ending of Nagorno" is a Russian suffix (masculine gender) transcribed into English, that is used in Russian to - in this case - bridge two words.

To sum - the whole wording use is wrong on so many levels.

[Federate]

Re: What are the borders of Nagorno-Karabakh?

The name of NK officially has also been changed to the Republic of Artsakh (or Artsakh for short). Yet you still see people use the NKR (in Armenian) or simply Gharabagh, even by officials. Not to mention the names of provinces and towns like Karvachar, Berdzor, Kovsakan are still rarely used.

That's excellent news, do you have a source for it?

[Catharsis]

Re: What are the borders of Nagorno-Karabakh?

The name of NK officially has also been changed to the Republic of Artsakh (or Artsakh for short). Yet you still see people use the NKR (in Armenian) or simply Gharabagh, even by officials. Not to mention the names of provinces and towns like Karvachar, Berdzor, Kovsakan are still rarely used.

I even see NKR on one of the maps. In English it comes to stand for the initials of an amalgamated Russian-Turkic-English.

[Federate]

Re: What are the borders of Nagorno-Karabakh?

Joined a group on Facebook that promotes the usage of correct maps of Nagorno-Karabakh Republic.

http://www.facebook.com/home.php#/group.php?gid=108664905242

[Federate]

Re: What are the borders of Nagorno-Karabakh?

RA Media- published Artsakh maps violate NKR constitution
06.10.2009 21:52 GMT+04:00

/PanARMENIAN.Net/ At today’s parliamentary sitting, Heritage Parliamentary Faction Secretary Larisa Alaverdyan criticized distorted Artsakh maps published by RA Media, noting that current maps include only the territory of ex-Nagorno Karabakh Autonomous Region along with Shahumian, which contradicts the Constitution as well as art. 2 of NKR Law on “Administrative and territorial division”.

According to Alaverdyan, recent interview of RA President Serzh Sargsyan with Vesti Russian TV channel suggests the above to be many year’s policy of Armenian authorities, and not media mistake.


Heritage Parliamentary Faction Secretary Larisa Alaverdyan urged RA government to stop infringement of NKR people’s rights for territorial integrity and self determination, observe international norms, establish international contractual relations with NKR and acknowledge NKR independence, thus contributing to its international recognition.

These actions will preclude any claims to NKR safety and territorial integrity, Alaverdyan concluded.

http://panarmenian.net/news/eng/?nid=37440