"Armenia's Allies"

[truAnatolian]

Re: "Armenia's Allies"

I guess if you measured the rate of change in their perceptions it would appear more beneficial but Im not for twisting numbers and units to make information seem more favourable. Its the gross value that counts here.

Russians hate us for good reason? What reason is that? Our contribution of great composers? The MiG jet? Our contributions to their business and banking sector? or is it when we won them gold medals in chess as apart of the CCCP?

Thus, the poll result suggesting that only 82% of Armenians are pro-Russian is too low, a far as I'm concerned

Now that I remember correctly, it was you who wanted Armenia to join the RF. You disgust me, I have nightmares about people like you......

You honestly don't get a laugh when you read "New Square of Russia opened in Armenia".... Personally I almost crapped my self laughing, then I just got angry about the whole idea.

without a Russian presence in the Caucasus there can be no Armenia...

This is a myth. There is absolutely no proof of this other than extreme paranoia about the turks being ready to pounce at the first instance. Judging by alot of what I've read hear it seems to be an endemic issue in the population. This attitude serves us no good, its a toxic idea (lest I call it an emotion). Furtheremore, it won't benefit anyone but Russia to think this way.

[jgk3]

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Armenia is already almost "in Russia", just as Canada is, when it boils down to it, part of the USA. Having Armenia officially part of Russia would help keep western intrigues towards Armenia out. I doubt that we'd have to experience the kind of dangers posed by figures like Levon anymore if Armenia was part of Russia officially.

And without Russia, we are naked in the Caucasus, is that what you want Anatolian? You'd prefer Armenia to have the immuno-deficiency virus offered by the west? Rot us from the inside out and feed our carcass to our lovely neighbours?

[truAnatolian]

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1.Once your in the federation theres no coming out! (i.e Chechnya)

2. Armenia is only naked in caucasus because we refuse to give up ancient armenian lands to the turks but we're more than happy to let the russians have it? Including Karbakh which we so recently lost good men and women for?

I would make peace with the turks and georgians and give up karabakh before I decided to abandon our soveigrnty and join the RF! Or else what was the point of all the fighting for independence???! We could of been 1.5 million armenians richer if independence meant nothing and we should just join RF?!

[Pazooki]

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Armenia is already almost "in Russia", just as Canada is, when it boils down to it, part of the USA. Having Armenia officially part of Russia would help keep western intrigues towards Armenia out. I doubt that we'd have to experience the kind of dangers posed by figures like Levon anymore if Armenia was part of Russia officially.

And without Russia, we are naked in the Caucasus, is that what you want Anatolian? You'd prefer Armenia to have the immuno-deficiency virus offered by the west? Rot us from the inside out and feed our carcass to our lovely neighbours?

Quoted for unwanted truth.

[truAnatolian]

Re: "Armenia's Allies"

Armenian see my post above... I dont want that to go un-noticed by you.

[Pazooki]

Re: "Armenia's Allies"

1.Once your in the federation theres no coming out! (i.e Chechnya)

2. Armenia is only naked in caucasus because we refuse to give up ancient armenian lands to the turks but we're more than happy to let the russians have it? Including Karbakh which we so recently lost good men and women for?

I would make peace with the turks and georgians and give up karabakh before I decided to abandon our soveigrnty and join the RF! Or else what was the point of all the fighting for independence???! We could of been 1.5 million armenians richer if independence meant nothing and we should just join RF?!

Over my dead body!!

[yerazhishda]

Re: "Armenia's Allies"

2. Armenia is only naked in caucasus because we refuse to give up ancient armenian lands to the turks but we're more than happy to let the russians have it? Including Karbakh which we so recently lost good men and women for?

You obviously no nothing of the inherent greedy, petty nature of turks who - given the chance - would gladly annex Armenia in a second. The struggle for Karabakh and the struggle for Armenia are one and the same, this is an unrefutable fact which has been proven over and over again by those within the ARF and Armenian intellectuals such as Dr. Armen Aivazyan. Please do some research before making silly comments such as these.

[truAnatolian]

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We have a country! After 600 f*ing years. We are commiting national suicide in the name of giving the Turks a hard time?!?!

Im sorry but if we finally have a state after all this time how are we arguing over relatively small peices of land? Do you know how many armenians lived and died without seeing an independent Armenian state. They would be turning in their graves if they knew how we were wasting the opportunity to build it. Our relatives didn't die in the genocide so we could kill all the turfight the turks for 1000 more years. They died because of the armenian cause for an independent country, which is one that we now have!
We succeeded, and now its our moral obligation to make the most of their sacrifices and build that small independent country to into a strong independent country. Not a russian province, not an Empire, Not Armenia + Karabakh....just a strong, independent and prosperous country where Armenians can laugh,sing, and pray.

[jgk3]

Re: "Armenia's Allies"

I almost feel like changing this thread's name to truAnatolian's Allies. Oh who am I kidding, almost feel...

Lets see truAnatolian, what nation similar to ours in its history and modern geopolitical reality is strong, independent and prosperous?

I doubt you'll find one. So you preach that we should kiss western ass and magically become this?

[Pazooki]

Re: "Armenia's Allies"

We have a country! After 600 f*ing years. We are commiting national suicide in the name of giving the Turks a hard time?!?!

Im sorry but if we finally have a state after all this time how are we arguing over relatively small peices of land? Do you know how many armenians lived and died without seeing an independent Armenian state. They would be turning in their graves if they knew how we were wasting the opportunity to build it. Our relatives didn't die in the genocide so we could kill all the turfight the turks for 1000 more years. They died because of the armenian cause for an independent country, which is one that we now have!
We succeeded, and now its our moral obligation to make the most of their sacrifices and build that small independent country to into a strong independent country. Not a russian province, not an Empire, Not Armenia + Karabakh....just a strong, independent and prosperous country where Armenians can laugh,sing, and pray.

Ok, lets say those people did trade their graves and we gave up our Christianity to the Turks and became Muslims. I have a feeling that everything would be way different. The Turks would be our allies along with Azerbaboons, everythings good, no? Yea, no problem thats cool. The only thing is that...hehehe...THE REST OF THE xxxxING WORLD WOULD HATE US LIKE THEY DO TURKEY!!!!