Recognition of Armenian Genocide by USA

[Joseph]

Re: Recognition of Armenian Genocide by USA

The last time an AG bill was in committee for a vote (2007), I saw on Youtube a few of the speeches committee members made. Of all the 'Nays', not one of them said Ottoman Turkey was innocent of Genocide. All of them affirmed the truth of the Genocide but said things like "now is not the right time", etc.

For those who watched yesterday's speeches, did any member claim Ottoman Turkey was innocent of Genocide ?

One for sure, Ed Whitfield.

[ZORAVAR]

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THE "BLONDE CONDOLEEZZA" WAS FAST ENOUGH

US administration to block vote on Turkey 'genocide'

The Obama administration has said it will seek to block a controversial bill describing as genocide the World War I killing of Armenians by Turks.

A congressional panel on Thursday approved the resolution, paving the way for a possible vote by the House.

But US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said the administration would "work very hard" to prevent this.

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8553013.stm

U.S. administration to block Armenian genocide bill

The U.S. government will "work very hard" to block a controversial resolution condemning as genocide the mass killings of Armenians by Turks during World War I, U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said on Friday.
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http://en.rian.ru/world/20100306/158111949.html

- Bush blocked the resolution to go forward in 2007.
- Obama promised to adopt the word "Genocide" during his election campain. What a lier.
- Now the "Blonde Condoleezza" was quick enough to reveal the intentions of the administration.

Don't fool yourselves. The USA has not intention of recognizing the Genocide. We are not their allies, the Turks are.

Believe me, the committee members who voted for the resolution will block it if they become the President one day.

Make no mistake.
ZORAVAR

[hipeter924]

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US White House Set to Block Armenian Genocide Resolution
2010-03-06 16:05:36


US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton says the Obama administration will do all it can to block the adoption of a resolution that describes the killing of Armenians by Turks as genocide. Photo by BGNES

The Obama US administration will seek to block a controversial bill that describes as genocide the 1915 killing of Armenians by Turks.

The US Congress Committee had narrowly approved the resolution on March 4, by 23 to 22 votes. This had paved the way for a possible vote by the House, something that the administration would seek to prevent.

Turkey reacted strongly to the vote, recalling its Ambassador from Washignton, and threatening further diplomatic protest. Turkish citizens took to the streets to voice their anger at the decision.

"We are against this decision. Now we believe that the US Congress will not take any decision on this subject," Hillary Clinton, the US Secretary of State, stated on Friday.

During his campaign for the 2008 election, Barack Obama had promised to brand the mass killings genocide.

However, Clinton has acknowledged his administration's change of opinion on the issue, saying that circumstances had "changed in very significant ways".

Turkey is a major partner in US efforts to stabilize Afghanistan and Iraq, and lies on a key route taking oil and natural gas to Western markets.

In October 2009, Turkey and Armenia signed a historic accord normalising relations between them after a century of hostility, but successive Turkish governments have refused to accept responsibility for any suggestion of genocide.

http://www.novinite.com/newsletter/print.php?id=113914

*shrug* I didn't see this coming. Not.

[GreekForumer]

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One for sure, Ed Whitfield.

I just saw the Whitfield video from 2007.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPyM2j_wGKM

He gives the "historians are still debating the issue" line.

I was wondering if there were any politicians in committee that said Ottoman Turkey was innocent of Genocide. I think not. Just that fact should be shocking to the Turkish Government and people, whether the bill passed committee or not.

[gegev]

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America is loosing its face worldwide as a superpower, human rights defender and the land of prosperity.

Just pay attention that in the foreign relations committee all the members in their speeches recognized AG as a historical truth but regardless the fact about half of them openly declared that recognizing the fact is not profitable for the United States.

Eventually unveiling nowadays USA real face world wide. Thus Hillary Clinton on behalf of America declared that when they judge a criminal: the sentence will depend on profitability of the court decision to USA and if it is not, the victim will be sentenced, instead. Truth doesn't matter much.

This proves that for some of the nowadays USA politicians - Judah Iscariot’s image is the most typical: 30 silver coins matters most.

[Tigranakert]

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I quote our great hero Monte Melkonian, something he had written 20 years ago.

...And we know for sure that all the genteel folks belly-aching about ''genocide, genocide, genocide...U.N., U.N., U.N....Congress, Congress, Congres...'' have achieved nothing but seventy-two years of failure!

He constantly mentioned just to rely on our own people and resources.

...As a first step, we should recognize that the Armenian people's fight for national self-determination is first and foremost the duty and task of the Armenian people themselves. We do not believe in the benevolent friends, the inevitable triumph of justice, or covertly and cleverly manipulating the superpowers. If we are to achieve national self-determination, then we ourselves, the Armenian people, will have to fight for it. We believe in the power of orginazed masses and in the capacity of our people to determine their own future...

[SevSpitak]

Re: Recognition of Armenian Genocide by USA

I quote our great hero Monte Melkonian, something he had written 20 years ago.

...And we know for sure that all the genteel folks belly-aching about ''genocide, genocide, genocide...U.N., U.N., U.N....Congress, Congress, Congres...'' have achieved nothing but seventy-two years of failure!

He constantly mentioned just to rely on our own people and resources.

...As a first step, we should recognize that the Armenian people's fight for national self-determination is first and foremost the duty and task of the Armenian people themselves. We do not believe in the benevolent friends, the inevitable triumph of justice, or covertly and cleverly manipulating the superpowers. If we are to achieve national self-determination, then we ourselves, the Armenian people, will have to fight for it. We believe in the power of orginazed masses and in the capacity of our people to determine their own future...

100% agree. Monte Melkonian is truly a modern Armenian Hero. He should be celebrated like Katch Vartan.

[ashot24]

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America is loosing its face worldwide as a superpower, human rights defender and the land of prosperity.

I thought America was an empire sticking their noses on the internal affairs of other countries only thinking about their interests, a hypocrite state no. 1 terrorist nation on the world and no. 1 human rights offender and violator, racist xenophobic by excellence in the world. Hmmm...

Just pay attention that in the foreign relations committee all the members in their speeches recognized AG as a historical truth but regardless the fact about half of them openly declared that recognizing the fact is not profitable for the United States.

Eventually unveiling nowadays USA real face world wide. Thus Hillary Clinton on behalf of America declared that when they judge a criminal: the sentence will depend on profitability of the court decision to USA and if it is not, the victim will be sentenced, instead. Truth doesn't matter much.

This proves that for some of the nowadays USA politicians - Judah Iscariot’s image is the most typical: 30 silver coins matters most.

It's the American way, say one thing and do the other.

Currently, the USA it's an empire entering the process of decadency and it's starting to tremble, and as they say the higher you get the harder you fall.

[hipeter924]

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There is no nation on this planet that can truly call itself a human rights defender, every nation has some nasty side to it; just some nations are definitely better. Europe is worse than American in lots of ways, the UK allows Shari-ah law; and all the EU states are catering more and more to Islamic Fundamentalists. So far unlike Europe the US is yet to pass anti-blasphemy laws and restrict religious freedom. The greatest threat these days is anti-terrorist legislation and religion (in particular Fundamentalist religion). I get worried certainly, we could possibly see a repeat of the Serbian/Kosovo war but his time across the whole of Europe.

[Mukuch]

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Turkish MP calls to admit Armenian genocide and apologize to Armenia

15:04 / 03/08/2010Turkey should recognize Armenian Genocide and apologize to Armenia, said Turkish MP from Bitlis, Kurdish Peace and Democracy party member Mehmed Nezir Karabas commenting on Armenian Genocide resolution adoption by U.S. House Committee on Foreign Affairs.

According to Haber27, Karabas stated that Turkey has never discussed and admit what happened in the beginning of last century. He maintained that we should be ashamed of having U.S. and Europe parliaments discuss this issue before April 24, instead of Turkey.

March 4, U.S. House Committee on Foreign Affairs approved H.Res.252 on Armenian Genocide.