Recognition of Armenian Genocide by USA

[Tigranakert]

Re: Recognition of Armenian Genocide by USA

A slap in the face for Turkey. A warning for what could happen if they do not accept the protocals, interesting times to come!

[ashot24]

Re: Recognition of Armenian Genocide by USA

I'm actually really concerned about what can come out of this. I don't say I am happy too, I totally back up this decision and I this is a good slap in the face of denialist Turkey to show them that you can't hide a lie forever...it will come out to light and shine.

But I mean, we have experience on what happens when ultra-nationalist Turks face this kind of situations, I am worried about the Armenians living in Istanbul and Turkey in general...those motherxxxxers can take actions against our brothers and sisters (just like the Azeries did when NK asked for reunification with Armenia, one week later...Sumgait) and start pogroms against us, kick every Armenian out of Turkey specially those who are undocumented, they would be treated like dogs, or idk...and the government or the police, nobody would do anything to stop it...instead Erdogan would be the first one racing against Armenians.

I am actually quite concerned. I have a mixed feelings situation

[Armanen]

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I'm actually really concerned about what can come out of this. I don't say I am happy too, I totally back up this decision and I this is a good slap in the face of denialist Turkey to show them that you can't hide a lie forever...it will come out to light and shine.

But I mean, we have experience on what happens when ultra-nationalist Turks face this kind of situations, I am worried about the Armenians living in Istanbul and Turkey in general...those motherxxxxers can take actions against our brothers and sisters (just like the Azeries did when NK asked for reunification with Armenia, one week later...Sumgait) and start pogroms against us, kick every Armenian out of Turkey specially those who are undocumented, they would be treated like dogs, or idk...and the government or the police, nobody would do anything to stop it...instead Erdogan would be the first one racing against Armenians.

I am actually quite concerned. I have a mixed feelings situation

No, if they did something like that it would only show the world, and those few people who doubt the AG, that turkey is the same as it was 100 years ago. In a sick way it would be a plus for our cause, even though some Armenians in turkey would be killed. Yet, I don't expect the AG bill to go to the full House nor do I expect turkey to start killings of Armenians within their borders.

[Jos]

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I'm actually really concerned about what can come out of this. I don't say I am happy too, I totally back up this decision and I this is a good slap in the face of denialist Turkey to show them that you can't hide a lie forever...it will come out to light and shine.

But I mean, we have experience on what happens when ultra-nationalist Turks face this kind of situations, I am worried about the Armenians living in Istanbul and Turkey in general...those motherxxxxers can take actions against our brothers and sisters (just like the Azeries did when NK asked for reunification with Armenia, one week later...Sumgait) and start pogroms against us, kick every Armenian out of Turkey specially those who are undocumented, they would be treated like dogs, or idk...and the government or the police, nobody would do anything to stop it...instead Erdogan would be the first one racing against Armenians.

I am actually quite concerned. I have a mixed feelings situation

It's a storm in a tea cup. The US congress is feigning interest in the Armenian cause and Turkish politicians will feign anger back. It's highly unlikely that the actual bill will get passed in the forseeable future because the US is very good at protecting its own interests irrespective of moral cause. And they need Turkey's goodwill right know for Iraq, peacekeeping in Afganistan, economic sanctions on Iran, $10 billion trade ($3.5 billion surplus to US - mostly military spending) etc.

Just wait and see, both the protocols and resolution are going nowhere. At least a lot of Armenians will be happy about the first one.

[ashot24]

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With what just happened it's more than enough for Turkey and its population to be angry as ever, citing Gul in a recent statement: Turkey will not be responsible for negative outcomes of this voting. It seems that no one though that in this struggle for justice there is also to take into consideration the lives of the nearly 40,000 Armenians who live in Turkey and whose lives may be threatened by the Turkish ultra-nationalists/Grey wolves/government/normal people who will in a extreme situation be enraged and will want to take revenge against them.

May God never allow that or anything bad to happen

[ninetoyadome]

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Abdullah Gul threatens
08:58 / 03/05/2010


Turkish President Abdullah Gul roundly condemned the adoption of Armenian Genocide Resolution by the U.S. House Committee on Foreign Affairs on March 4.

“I consider the decision unreasonable. It lacks respect to the Turkish nation. The adopted resolution is far from the historical realities and is incompatible with Armenia-Turkey relations. The decision will significantly damage the stability and peace in Caucasus, as well as the nations’ efforts to establish long-term good-neighborly relations. I see this decision, following the political configuration, as injustice to history. After this voting, Turkey does not claim responsibility for negative results in any sphere,” Gul said.

As NEWS.am reported previously, after discussing the Armenian Genocide Resolution for several hours, the U.S. House Committee on Foreign Affairs held an open voting.

On Armenian delegation were RA Ambassador to the U.S. Tatul Margaryan and ARF Dashnaktsutyun faction leader Vahan Hovhannisyan.

Before the voting end, Turkish Premier Recep Tayyip Erdogan left for the presidential residence to discuss the situation with country’s President Abdullah Gul.

Twenty-three congressmen voted for, while 22 — against.

http://news.am/en/news/15943.html

is this a way of Turkey saying they want to attack Armenia or something because these were the sort of threats dictator aliyev usually makes.

[ashot24]

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Abdullah Gul threatens
08:58 / 03/05/2010


Turkish President Abdullah Gul roundly condemned the adoption of Armenian Genocide Resolution by the U.S. House Committee on Foreign Affairs on March 4.

“I consider the decision unreasonable. It lacks respect to the Turkish nation. The adopted resolution is far from the historical realities and is incompatible with Armenia-Turkey relations. The decision will significantly damage the stability and peace in Caucasus, as well as the nations’ efforts to establish long-term good-neighborly relations. I see this decision, following the political configuration, as injustice to history. After this voting, Turkey does not claim responsibility for negative results in any sphere,” Gul said.

As NEWS.am reported previously, after discussing the Armenian Genocide Resolution for several hours, the U.S. House Committee on Foreign Affairs held an open voting.

On Armenian delegation were RA Ambassador to the U.S. Tatul Margaryan and ARF Dashnaktsutyun faction leader Vahan Hovhannisyan.

Before the voting end, Turkish Premier Recep Tayyip Erdogan left for the presidential residence to discuss the situation with country’s President Abdullah Gul.

Twenty-three congressmen voted for, while 22 — against.

http://news.am/en/news/15943.html

is this a way of Turkey saying they want to attack Armenia or something because these were the sort of threats dictator aliyev usually makes.

I don't know think he means they want to attack Armenia, I mean they have no reason or right too do such thing, they can stop the protocols process or walk away from them, which would be seen as a terrible diplomatic failure, meaning we will be back at the starting point, but this time the tensions between both states are going to be very high and any attempt to bring the states closer will be in a distant future and very hard to accomplish.

We may be listening new stuff coming from Azerbaijan in a near future as well, they are furious about this too.

It's a quite worrying situation the one Armenia is founding herself today. Growing tensions can lead to bad things

[Armanen]

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I don't know think he means they want to attack Armenia, I mean they have no reason or right too do such thing, they can stop the protocols process or walk away from them, which would be seen as a terrible diplomatic failure, meaning we will be back at the starting point, but this time the tensions between both states are going to be very high and any attempt to bring the states closer will be in a distant future and very hard to accomplish.

We may be listening new stuff coming from Azerbaijan in a near future as well, they are furious about this too.

It's a quite worrying situation the one Armenia is founding herself today. Growing tensions can lead to bad things

Actully Armenia finds itself in a better geopolitical position than in any period in the past few hundred years. No one is paying any attention to azerbaijan, they are left at Moscow's whims, georgia is broken and weak, and turkey is looking quite foolish in its attempts to act as a regional power, when in fact they are no greater than Iran, and to a degree are beholden to Russia as well.

[ashot24]

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Actully Armenia finds itself in a better geopolitical position than in any period in the past few hundred years. No one is paying any attention to azerbaijan, they are left at Moscow's whims, georgia is broken and weak, and turkey is looking quite foolish in its attempts to act as a regional power, when in fact they are no greater than Iran, and to a degree are beholden to Russia as well.

Yeah I know, but I mean today as off right now after the current events. I am referring to the danger that would be (and currently is a likely and growing possibility) to have both Turkey and Azerbaijan united by rage looking at Armenia with hateful eyes and ideas of revenge. That can be no good for Armenia both at a short term and a long term periods, tensions are high and will be high in the coming times and we must strengthen our positions now in every sense...as to me respects, I am quite worried because of that. I am now just hoping that Turkey is as reliable an serious as Azerbaijan is when it comes to make threats and taking 'measures'...

[ashot24]

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Turkish government condemned adoption of Armenian Resolution
02:09 / 03/05/2010


Turkish government condemned the decision by the Committee on Foreign Affairs of the United States House of Representatives to adopt Resolution #252 on recognition of the Armenian Genocide.

“Turkey shows regret over the decision by the Committee on Foreign Affairs of the United States House of Representatives to adopt Resolution #252 on recognition of the Armenian Genocide. We criticize the bill, accusing Turkish nation without due grounds. The people contributing to the adoption of the resolution ignore historical reality and treat the issue with political and unjust color. Along with historical mistakes, there are also one-sided views in this resolution. At all times, the intervention of politicians in history had a negative impact. We have serious concerns that despite our warnings, the adopted resolution will damage U.S.-Turkey relations and will bring Armenia-Turkey relations to a deadlock. We recall Namik Tan, Turkish Ambassador to Washington to Ankara for discussions,” Turkish government statement reads.

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