Iranian-Armenian relations

[KanadaHye]

Re: Iranian-Armenian relations

So barbarically stoning women for adultery, which is not even proven in all case, is right? oh great..

I'm pretty sure there was murder of the husband involved in which strengthens the adultery claim. But you only get to hear half truths or rather selective facts from the Israeli propaganda machine.

Yeah, 17 or 18 year olds being the 3rd or 4th wife of a old 60 year old for some money is a great start to their lives...

At least they claim women as their wives whereas in backwards western world, they just use, abuse and throw away their mistresses.

[Mos]

Re: Iranian-Armenian relations

I'm pretty sure there was murder of the husband involved in which strengthens the adultery claim. But you only get to hear half truths or rather selective facts from the Israeli propaganda machine.

Oh, and the undercover videos and testimony from people are also just Israeli actors...Of course, Everything is perfect and just in Iranian society, there are no flaws, anything negative or criticisms about it is just Israeli propaganda. Come on.

At least they claim women as their wives whereas in backwards western world, they just use, abuse and throw away their mistresses.

What you mean they claim? These old people give money to have such teenage wives, and it's special kind of marriage (because it's their 2nd or 3rd one) that ends after a predetermined period. Basically, it's prostitution just at a different level.

[KanadaHye]

Re: Iranian-Armenian relations

Oh, and the undercover videos and testimony from people are also just Israeli actors...Of course, Everything is perfect and just in Iranian society, there are no flaws, anything negative or criticisms about it is just Israeli propaganda. Come on.

You got it.

What you mean they claim? These old people give money to have such teenage wives, and it's special kind of marriage (because it's their 2nd or 3rd one) that ends after a predetermined period. Basically, it's prostitution just at a different level.

Why are you so obsessed with a couple wealthy people exploiting Muslim society? You act as though wealthy people everywhere don't abuse their power.

[Mos]

Re: Iranian-Armenian relations

You got it.

Obviously you have a very deeply flawed outlook on the world, don't know why I should even bother.

[KanadaHye]

Re: Iranian-Armenian relations

Obviously you have a very deeply flawed outlook on the world, don't know why I should even bother.

You shouldn't bother. I don't buy the holier than thou outlook that propagandists use as every society has its rulers and serfs.

[Mos]

Re: Iranian-Armenian relations

You shouldn't bother. I don't buy the holier than thou outlook that propagandists use as every society has its rulers and serfs.

It's not even propaganda, do you even know what's propaganda? I can show you some real propaganda if you want, what I'm talking about (the stoning of women, or the teenagers being married off) isn't. You can deny it all you want and blame it on "israeli propaganda" but you are just being blind to the truth. And I still can't believe that you think those videos that show women getting stoned are Israeli actors. And that's not propaganda? lol

[KanadaHye]

Re: Iranian-Armenian relations

It's not even propaganda, do you even know what's propaganda? I can show you some real propaganda if you want, what I'm talking about (the stoning of women, or the teenagers being married off) isn't. You can deny it all you want and blame it on "israeli propaganda" but you are just being blind to the truth. And I still can't believe that you think those videos that show women getting stoned are Israeli actors. And that's not propaganda? lol

I guess you should read the definition of propaganda.

You are claiming she is being stoned for adultery which in fact she committed murder. Adultery is just another count against her and that is what the media in the west focuses on to demonize Iran. They are conditioning people in the west to hate Iran so that when the west and their mighty leader Israel decides to take military action against Iran, people won't even argue it as they would have this evil image of Iranians in their little bird brains. Granted stoning is the worst possible form of capital punishment but I'd have to admit, knowing that the outcome of a crime if caught was stoning, it would certainly make me think 2 or 3 times before committing a crime.

[Mos]

Re: Iranian-Armenian relations

I guess you should read the definition of propaganda.

You are claiming she is being stoned for adultery which in fact she committed murder. Adultery is just another count against her and that is what the media in the west focuses on to demonize Iran. They are conditioning people in the west to hate Iran so that when the west and their mighty leader Israel decides to take military action against Iran, people won't even argue it as they would have this evil image of Iranians in their little bird brains. Granted stoning is the worst possible form of capital punishment but I'd have to admit, knowing that the outcome of a crime if caught was stoning, it would certainly make me think 2 or 3 times before committing a crime.

Adultery alone is punishable by stoning.

Under Iran's penal code, adultery is the only crime punishable by stoning as an offence "against divine law". The death sentence may also be imposed for murder, rape, armed robbery and drug trafficking, but offenders are usually hanged.

Stoning is intended to cause a slow and painful death. Iran's penal code states: "The size of the stone . . . shall not be too large to kill the convict by one or two throws, and shall not be too small to be called a stone."

Straight from the Official Penal Code of Iran:

Article 82: The penalty for adultery in the following cases shall be death, regardless of
the age or marital status
of the culprit: (1) Adultery with one’s consanguineous relatives (close blood relatives
forbidden to each other by
religious law); (2) Adultery with one’s stepmother in which the adulterer’s punishment
shall be death; (3)
Adultery between a non-Muslim man and a Muslim woman, in which case the adulterer
(non-Muslim man)
shall receive the death penalty; (4) Forcible rape, in which case the rapist shall receive the
death penalty.
Article 83: Adultery in the following cases shall be punishable by stoning: (1) Adultery
by a married man who
is wedded to a permanent wife with whom he has had intercourse and may have
intercourse when he so desires;
(2) Adultery of a married woman with an adult man provided the woman is permanently
married and has had
intercourse with her husband and is able to do so again.
Note. Adultery of a married woman with a minor is punishable by flogging.
Article 100: The flogging of an adulterer shall be carried out while he is standing upright
and his body bare
except for his genitals. The lashes shall strike all parts of his body–- except his face, head
and genitals-- with
full force. The adulteress shall be flogged while she is seated and her clothing tightly
bound to her body.
Article 102: The stoning of an adulterer or adulteress shall be carried out while each is
placed in a hole and
covered with soil, he up to his waist and she up to a line above her breasts.

So is Iran's penal code Israeli propaganda as well?

[KanadaHye]

Re: Iranian-Armenian relations

Adultery alone is punishable by stoning.

Straight from the Official Penal Code of Iran:

So is Iran's penal code Israeli propaganda as well?

Perhaps you should concern yourself more with Israel's Halacha Laws...

[Mos]

Re: Iranian-Armenian relations

Perhaps you should concern yourself more with Israel's Halacha Laws... :smile:

Stop trying to change the subject. We could talk about Israel's laws in another thread (it has some flaws as well), but not to the extent here where people can be punished by stoning. And that's just a small part of Iran's penal code. The government of Iran would do its people and its image a lot of good if it removed some of these medieval style laws.