Iranian-Armenian relations

[Mos]

Re: Iranian-Armenian relations

Persian hospitality is very famous.....you will also discover a phenomenon called "Tarof". There is no getting away from that one.

The only thing that may be a problem is language barrier, I probably will have to learn some Farsi before going.

[Eddo211]

Re: Iranian-Armenian relations

The only thing that may be a problem is language barrier, I probably will have to learn some Farsi before going.

Most Iranian can speak English as well....meet up with Armenians there, they will set you up if you ever go.

[Mos]

Re: Iranian-Armenian relations

I will go when the politics in the Middle East calms down, don't want to by accident get caught in a demonstration and be jailed for spying or something. If I go, I'll probably drive down from Armenia with my family or relatives.

[KanadaHye]

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I will go when the politics in the Middle East calms down, don't want to by accident get caught in a demonstration and be jailed for spying or something. If I go, I'll probably drive down from Armenia with my family or relatives.

Politics hasn't calmed down in the Middle East for over 2000 years

[Persopolis]

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I will go when the politics in the Middle East calms down, don't want to by accident get caught in a demonstration and be jailed for spying or something. If I go, I'll probably drive down from Armenia with my family or relatives.

Mos, you crack me up brother; There are tens of thousands of Armenians in Iran. Nobody is going to arrest you for spying (LMAO!). Just wait till the democracy-demonstrations settle down so you can have a good tourist experience. As a historical footnote, Armenians never did crazy things in Iran like spying and Iranians just consider Armenians good Christian people (as opposed to some of the nutcase TV preachers in the U.S. -- look up "Benny Hinn" to see what I am talking about). Every time some foreign power tried to bait Armenians into being their puppets in Iran, the Armenians said 'look we've known the Iranians for thousands of years, we get along.' And this is the secret to good relations - it's worked for centuries.

Monte Melkonian spent a lot of time in Iran in the 1980s, so I think you will be fine. Just make some friends with some Parskahye (Persian-Armenians).

ARMENIAN CHURCHES IN IRAN:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvVCNvNBQQo

Archbishop Sebouh Sarkissian assures Pope Benedict that Christians and Muslims have good relations in Iran for centuries and that they do not feel threatened. For example, the Iranian Constitution explicitly protects Armenian rights.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDJEyyrmR4U

[Mos]

Re: Iranian-Armenian relations

Politics hasn't calmed down in the Middle East for over 2000 years

I was referring more to the current protests that have been going on. I wouldn't want to be in Iran during opposition protests for example.

[Mos]

Re: Iranian-Armenian relations

Mos, you crack me up brother; There are tens of thousands of Armenians in Iran. Nobody is going to arrest your for spying (LMAO!). Just wait till the democracy-demonstrations settle down so you can have a good tourist experience. As a historical footnote, Armenians never did crazy things in Iran like spying and Iranians just consider Armenians good Christian people (as opposed to some of the nutcase TV preachers in the U.S. -- look up "Benny Hinn" to see what I am talking about). Every time some foreign power tried to bait Armenians into being their puppets in Iran, the Armenians said 'look we've known the Iranians for thousands of years, we get along.' And this is the secret to good relations - it's worked for centuries.

Monte Melkonian spent a lot of time in Iran in the 1980s, so I think you will be fine. Just make some friends with some Parskahye (Persian-Armenians).

ARMENIAN CHURCHES IN IRAN:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvVCNvNBQQo

Archbishop Sebouh Sarkissian assures Pope Benedict that Christians and Muslims have good relations in Iran for centuries and that they do not feel threatened. For example, the Iranian Constitution explicitly protects Armenian rights.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDJEyyrmR4U

Yes I greatly appreciate the hospitality and rights Armenians have enjoyed in Iran. People often underestimate Iran's treatment towards religious minorities because of the heavy propaganda against Iran.

I would probably go with family/relatives there since I have no contacts in Iran. I will definitely visit our churches there. For some reason, I also really like the Iranian dress shirts with no collars, that politicians wear, I'll be sure to buy quite a few when I'm there

[Armanen]

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Persopolis:

Would you mind finding some articles in Farsi which deal with Armenia and Iran's energy relations. and then maybe translate a few of them or at least provide a quick summary of what the article states? I know PressTV is an English language news outlet from Iran, but I think there may be better stuff in Farsi on other sites.

Thanks!

[Persopolis]

Re: Iranian-Armenian relations

Persopolis:

Would you mind finding some articles in Farsi which deal with Armenia and Iran's energy relations. and then maybe translate a few of them or at least provide a quick summary of what the article states? I know PressTV is an English language news outlet from Iran, but I think there may be better stuff in Farsi on other sites.

Thanks!

U.S. Pressuring Iran to not provide Armenia with energy. (My opinion is that the U.S. policy is shameless.)
http://www.eurasianet.org/department...v062107a.shtml

Construction will begin this year of a pipeline taking oil from Iran to Armenia.
http://www.ecasb.com/home-fa.html (in Persian)
In English: http://www.ecasb.com/newsdetail-4174-en.html

Iran to help Armenia with Petro/Gas/Hydro energy development: Armenian-Iranian cooperation in energy sector encompasses supplies of Iranian gas to Armenia through Iran-Armenian pipeline, seasonal electricity swaps. The two countries will also build hydraulic power plants on the rive of Arax separating both countries and a fuel pipeline from Iran to Armenia.
http://www.arka.am/eng/energy/2010/11/09/22335.html

Iran helping to build-up Armenian economy and renewable energy sources: Armenian energy minister Armen Movsisian said last week the feasibility plan for construction of a hydro power plant on the border River of Arax separating Armenia form Iran was ready. He said the construction was set to start early next year. He said the hydro power plant, which will be located near the southern Armenian town of Meghri, will have a 130-140 MW capacity to generate annually about 850 million kWh electricity. Movsisian said it will be a unique hydro power plant in this region to benefit both Iran and Armenia. He said the beneficial legal framework and the tariff policy have made construction of small hydro power plants a very attractive business. Armenia has now 50 small hydro power plants and another 50 are being constructed. The minister said also Armenian power grid will be used for a swap of electricity between Georgia and Iran. To that end a third Iran-Armenia power transmission line is being built.

http://www.renewableenergyarmenia.am/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=53&Itemid=133

Iran to boost oil exports to Armenia.
http://www.globalenergymagazine.com/?p=2819

Persian new service: (2004) Iran described the relationship between Iran and Armenia as a benchmark of peaceful co-existence and cooperation between neighbors with a longstanding shared history of respect. Iran published a statement: "Armenia’s long history as well as its talented, diligent and self-confident people has had a great impact on the human civilisations”, he (the Iranian minister) added at the end of the first round of meeting with his Armenian host, Robert Kucharian.

(There's a lot more info - will keep you posted by supplementing my post here. My personal feeling is that Iran is trying to develop Armenia's economy out of a spirit of friendship - Iran has many more markets available for the export of its products (e.g. China / Russia), but a real attempt is being made to help Armenians. Unfortunately it looks like some outside powers are trying to interfere..)

[Mos]

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(There's a lot more info - will keep you posted by supplementing my post here. My personal feeling is that Iran is trying to develop Armenia's economy out of a spirit of friendship - Iran has many more markets available for the export of its products (e.g. China / Russia), but a real attempt is being made to help Armenians. Unfortunately it looks like some outside powers are trying to interfere..)

I don't believe Iran is trading with Armenia, because it feels bad for Armenia. That's not how countries run politics. Right now strategically for Iran, it makes sense to have good relations with Armenia - and given the economic restrictions and embargoes, trading with Armenia is a win-win. If having relations with Armenia was in some way harmful there wouldn't be any relations. To think that there is such a thing as "friendship" or "brotherhood" in politics is ridicolous and childish. Every country does what it can for its own gains and interests. Today, we are good with Iran because it serves our interests, who knows tomorrow this may not be the case. Relations between countries are dynamic, friends can become enemies, enemies can become friends...