Bashar al-Assad, Syria and the Armenian people

[Mher]

Re: Bashar al-Assad, Syria and the Armenian people

Pretty insane attack on Al-Nusra by Assad forces, forward to 1:10

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aq9k2hNqd8E

And hoards of ISIS crossing from Iraq into Syria

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbzJIN6B0k4

[Haykakan]

Re: Bashar al-Assad, Syria and the Armenian people

Good vids Mher. This war does not seem to be ending anytime soon.

[HermanGerman]

Re: Bashar al-Assad, Syria and the Armenian people

Pretty insane attack on Al-Nusra by Assad forces, forward to 1:10

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aq9k2hNqd8E

And hoards of ISIS crossing from Iraq into Syria
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbzJIN6B0k4

Great post Mher, shnoragalutiun.
Yexpayr, do you know when this took place?
All I know is that it's the al-Anbar provice in Iraq, supposedly the al-Noaimiya military base but I dont know when the attack took place.
Maybe some weeks ago but I am not sure.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxW8q1Qr1gA

[Mher]

Re: Bashar al-Assad, Syria and the Armenian people

Great post Mher, shnoragalutiun.
Yexpayr, do you know when this took place?
All I know is that it's the al-Anbar provice in Iraq, supposedly the al-Noaimiya military base but I dont know when the attack took place.
Maybe some weeks ago but I am not sure.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxW8q1Qr1gA

no problem guys, you're very welcome. I'm actually not sure. My Shiite Lebanese friend who is pretty up to date about the situation in Syria shared these when we were discussing Syria. I'll ask him and try to report back. Though I would think Federate might know, seeing he seems to be better informed than anyone else I've heard from

[Federate]

Re: Bashar al-Assad, Syria and the Armenian people

Pretty insane attack on Al-Nusra by Assad forces, forward to 1:10

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aq9k2hNqd8E

And hoards of ISIS crossing from Iraq into Syria
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbzJIN6B0k4

The first video is actually led by Hezbollah. It took place a few weeks ago in Damascus countryside. A total of 175 (!) rebels died in that single ambush.

Great post Mher, shnoragalutiun.
Yexpayr, do you know when this took place?
All I know is that it's the al-Anbar provice in Iraq, supposedly the al-Noaimiya military base but I dont know when the attack took place.
Maybe some weeks ago but I am not sure.

18+
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxW8q1Qr1gA

It happened January 26 of this year. Here's the location of the base http://wikimapia.org/#lang=en&lat=33...80668&z=16&m=b

[Vrej1915]

Re: Bashar al-Assad, Syria and the Armenian people

Pretty insane attack on Al-Nusra by Assad forces, forward to 1:10

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aq9k2hNqd8E

And hoards of ISIS crossing from Iraq into Syria
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbzJIN6B0k4

First film is pretty strange:
The 175 "guys", filmed and trapped in the dark, supposedly thanks to good intelligence, and swift mining of the road they are supposed to use;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOc6Wb0xkMs

There is a discrepancy, between the huge explosions, supposedly a "chain of land mines" , previously installed along the path, an the state of the corpses filmed by daylight.
The explosions, should have burned and thrown the corpses all over the place, dozens of meters from each other, on each side of the road.... while the daylight films seem like mashingunned queue??

Yet do not understand, how supposedly trained militiamen can walk at such distance, on such open terrain.
Even untrained, unexperimented men, walking in deep gorges, must have respected a minimal distance....
This is not day 1, but 3 years in a war, when same scenario repeats again.
Something fishy in the story??

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwoXrYVFLZc

Bizarre city watfare tactical inovation?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhJ_JO5OLv0

Air losses inflicted on the Syrian aviation, according rebel claims....
Toll seems too high, to be credible, unless the Manpads are much more present, then claimed by the rebellion.

NB: probably most losses were inflicted on the ground, when capturing or mortaring airfields, or abandonned due to obsolescence??

[Federate]

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First film is pretty strange:
The 175 "guys", filmed and trapped in the dark, supposedly thanks to good intelligence, and swift mining of the road they are supposed to use;
There is a discrepancy, between the huge explosions, supposedly a "chain of land mines" , previously installed along the path, an the state of the corpses filmed by daylight.
The explosions, should have burned and thrown the corpses all over the place, dozens of meters from each other, on each side of the road.... while the daylight films seem like mashingunned queue??

Yet do not understand, how supposedly trained militiamen can walk at such distance, on such open terrain.
Even untrained, unexperimented men, walking in deep gorges, must have respected a minimal distance....
This is not day 1, but 3 years in a war, when same scenario repeats again.
Something fishy in the story??

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The area of the ambush is an area under the control of Hezbollah and the Syrian Army. The rebels have been under siege there for quite some time and are using the cover of darkness to try and leave the besieged area (Eastern Ghouta). While moving in large groups in unclear routes at night, it is very common to march in this formation to not lose anyone. The explosions wouldn't have necessarily burned their corpses and thrown them all over the place but assuming it did, the army could have simply gathered the bodies and placed them the way they are laid out for filming purposes, something that is done very commonly. Shrapnel is the number one killer in explosions, not the actual fire which seems overblown in the video because of the night time footage that contrasts with the sudden light. Many of the rebels survived the initial chain IED explosions and were cut down by shooting.

[Vrej1915]

Re: Bashar al-Assad, Syria and the Armenian people

The area of the ambush is an area under the control of Hezbollah and the Syrian Army. The rebels have been under siege there for quite some time and are using the cover of darkness to try and leave the besieged area (Eastern Ghouta). While moving in large groups in unclear routes at night, it is very common to march in this formation to not lose anyone. The explosions wouldn't have necessarily burned their corpses and thrown them all over the place but assuming it did, the army could have simply gathered the bodies and placed them the way they are laid out for filming purposes, something that is done very commonly. Shrapnel is the number one killer in explosions, not the actual fire which seems overblown in the video because of the night time footage that contrasts with the sudden light. Many of the rebels survived the initial chain IED explosions and were cut down by shooting.

Thank You.
But yet, if it is a crossing of enemy lines by the dark, logic would have been, to avoid cleared paths (the road well distinguished on daylight film), since the minimum defense would have been random mining by anti-personal mines, at least the roads, if not the side plains....

Even in the darkest night, you still can see at 5-10m distance.

The well known case of the Grozny siege braking, when the russian army was pounding with all its might the ruined city, and the Chechens decided to brake the siege, and flee to the mountains, in a built and ravaged area (contrary to this open terrain), they used a widely dispersed line of evacuation, loosing a lot of their men on antipersonnel mines (most famous case being Shamil Bassayev), and yet, more than 50% of the contingent managed to cross.....

The way they cross, does not look, as if they felt the immediate threat of a more than probable random mine field, let alone presence of enemy troops....

Really hard to understand.

Why could they not dispatched their men in 10-15 groups, and crossed on a wider front, in the open terrain, or at least distanced their small units with minimal security needs?
I'm sure, the guys financing them can afford a dozen night vision or GPS ??

The minimal formation when crossing enemy lines, is a front razvetka, and rear closing team, plus small units on each side of the line....

Strange.

[Eddo211]

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Shiit.....you seen how these guys shoot their AK (over their head, no aim, idea where the bullets are going) dumbxxxx deserve to be cut to peaces.
They have no strategy or very limited one.

Good shooting....they be FUBAR!!

[Artashes]

Re: Bashar al-Assad, Syria and the Armenian people

Standard procedure in vietnam for ambush --- find the enemy path, lay mines on that path, machine guns on each side of path, wait till enemy is on path, shoot at mines (not enemy) to knock enemy down, then shoot enemy.
Identify path, let enemy use path, then sabatoge path.
Personnel mines unless steped on directly aren't going to blow enemy that far, just knock them down. That's when rifle or machine gun does the work. After, you have to confirm the kill.
Bright explosions look bigger than they are. Looks like bombs from planes, but actually personnel mines.
To me, it looks like standard ambush by guys who knew what they were doing to guys who used that trail before and simply got got by surprise --- ambush ----
Job well done.