Bashar al-Assad, Syria and the Armenian people

[Etchmiadzin]

Re: Bashar al-Assad, Syria and the Armenian people

Bro, I know you mean well and all that but I dont think you should be posting pictures of killed Armenian as a respect for the dead and their families.

I agree

[Artashes]

Re: Bashar al-Assad, Syria and the Armenian people

I agree

Although I understand what you are saying, I disagree.
I think the world needs to see what is happening to the innocents & and the people who are simply defending their family friends & selves.
By fed pointing out that this man, an Armenian descendent of the genocide, & an Armenian Christian had this (graphic) done because he refused a warped zealots insane demand to convert to islam, is exactly what should be put in front of the world to see.
The world needs to see what these islamic freaks are ACTUALLY doing & need to see what USA, Britain, France, soody rabia have started and support & propagate.
Oh, did I forget Israel.
Artashes

[londontsi]

Re: Bashar al-Assad, Syria and the Armenian people

Bro, I know you mean well and all that but I dont think you should be posting pictures of killed Armenian as a respect for the dead and their families.

I find the picture emotionally distressing and upsetting.
I also understand the pain the family and loved ones must feel with such a picture being readily accessible.

The other side of the coin is, how would you feel if graphic records of the Armenian genocide were not available.
Say if it was only described with text, however long or graphic the description.
I do not think the message and the purpose of the exercise would have been conveyed so strongly.

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[Haykakan]

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SYRIA ACTIVISTS FREED FROM JIHADIST DUNGEONS BREATHE NEW LIFE

Agence France Presse
January 12, 2014 Sunday 6:48 AM GMT

BEIRUT, Jan 12 2014

Wide-eyed Seif said his family had lost hope of seeing him again after
jihadists from the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant snatched him
from his media office in Idlib province.

The 22-year-old was repeatedly beaten by his captors, before being
sentenced to death for his media activism and his parents had already
been told he was dead.

But an offensive against the group, launched last week by other
Islamist rebels outraged by ISIL's abuses, saved his life.

When Seif was reunited with his family and fiancee, he gained a fresh
lease of life.

"My parents had been told by ISIL I had already been executed. They
couldn't believe their eyes when they saw me," Seif from Idlib province
told AFP via the Internet.

Seif thought he would never make it out of his jail after being tried
and sentenced to death by one of the group's foreign members.

"I was never given a proper trial. The Tunisian (jihadist) judge just
walked into the room and issued his sentence," Seif said

"He picked the harshest sentence because that's what he was in the
mood for."

Seif was kidnapped by ISIL on November 28 and freed on January 6 when
rebels stormed the jail in Dana in northwestern province of Idlib.

The attack was part of the week-long rebel offensive against ISIL
in large swathes of northern Syria that has seen opposition fighters
expel ISIL from some areas.

The group is holding hundreds of captives including rebels from rival
groups, activists and journalists, among them Westerners.

Survivors like Seif say conditions in ISIL jails are "inhuman,
far worse than those of the regime" of President Bashar al-Assad,
where he was also held in 2011.

"Believe me, ISIL's jails are even more horrific. At least in Assad's
prisons I got food to eat every night," said Seif, who was a student
in Aleppo when he joined the anti-Assad revolt in 2011.

"I was given half a litre of water every two days, and only scraps
of food to eat. Because they hate media activists, I was beaten and
sworn at and accused of being a heretic," Seif said.

He also saw the jihadists executing other prisoners, including a
15-year-old Kurdish boy who was accused of rape and belonging to the
Kurdistan Workers Party, whose Syrian branch has been fighting ISIL
for months.

"He denied the accusations and for five days they beat him. He
eventually broke and 'confessed.' They immediately shot him."

Seif said ISIL was holding two Armenians who had tried to flee Syria
after the jihadists attacked churches, especially in the northern
province of Raqa.

"They showed the Armenians and me the heads of prisoners who had been
executed, to terrorise us," said Seif.

"The torture was merciless. My forehead was bleeding from the beating
for two days, and I got no treatment. I saw people in their 70s,
who had been kidnapped for ransom," he added.

"They had many Kurds in their jails, whose release was costing their
families hundreds of thousands of Syrian pounds," said Seif.

Rights groups have said that ISIL has kidnapped hundreds of Kurds in
recent months in Aleppo province.

Narrow escape from mass execution

Milad Shehabi had been working as a citizen journalist for Shahba
Press, a grassroots network, when jihadists stormed his Aleppo office
in late December.

"They said I should learn how to speak about ISIL," Shehabi told AFP
over the Internet.

Shehabi had been visiting neighbouring Turkey before he was captured
by ISIL, but was determined to return to Syria even though he had
received threats.

Unlike Seif, Shehabi was not put on trial. He did not even know he
was being held by ISIL until several days after his capture.

"For 13 days, I was blindfolded and held in solitary confinement,"
he said. "I couldn't see anything. I only heard sounds."

Shehabi was being held at a children's hospital in Aleppo used by
ISIL as its heaquarters in the city.

This week rebels overran the base and freed dozens of captives,
including Shehabi, hours after ISIL had reportedly executed at least
nine prisoners "in cold blood".

"I heard the gunshots when they were executing people. There were so
many bullets I thought there were clashes outside," said Shehabi.

Like Seif, Shehabi felt lucky to have escaped with his life.

"They asked me for 200,000 pounds ($1,300) ransom. I only had 15,000,"
he said.

"I asked them whether I could inform my family of my whereabouts. They
forbade even that."

Reporters Without Borders describes Syria as the world's most dangerous
country to report on.

[Federate]

Re: Bashar al-Assad, Syria and the Armenian people

As a side note if you're into Middle East politics, especially the Levant, Al-Akhbar is a great website to check out on a daily basis. They're also Armenian-friendly.
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The Story of Two Armenians Arrested by ISIS



By: Suhaib Anjarini
Published Thursday, January 16, 2014
The story of Wanis and Minas Livonian, two Syrian-Armenians from the north Syrian city of Aleppo, seems almost out of this world. They were killed by the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS), and its local Sharia committee forbade their family from burying them.

Aleppo resident Anis Livonian, known as Abu Minas, owned a small ice factory in the eastern Aleppo countryside’s Bab district. The factory was the entire fortune of this 69 year old. When ISIS reached the region four months ago, it took control of the factory.

No one can imagine what Wanis and his son Minas, 38, were thinking when they decided to risk their lives and head to the industrial city in Sheikh Najjar. Certainly, they didn’t imagine it would lead to their deaths.

The father visited the booty department at ISIS headquarters, seeking a deal with the emir, but ISIS arrested them at once when it discovered they were Armenians.

Wanis was married with two daughters and a son. Minas was married with three children, the oldest 11 years old. Their family tried to obtain information about their whereabouts but to no avail.
Three months later, an ISIS religious judge came to the two men with a solution. A former prisoner of ISIS told Al-Akhbar, “Abu Issa told them: Convert to Islam and you will be safe." Naturally, they quickly agreed, declaring the shahada. Then, the two “Muslim Armenians” were sent back to their cell “temporarily."

Though Abu Issa had promised to release them, three days later Minas asked an “investigator” frequenting the prison about the reasons behind the delay. He answered, “The emir was not convinced by your Islam." Minas asked, “How was he not? We swore!” The investigator replied, “You, people of the book, your bible is distorted and your beliefs are void. You must have pretended that you converted to Islam to fool us."

According to the source, before the battles between ISIS and the armed opposition groups reached the prison, the two men were told, along with other prisoners, that they would appear before a judge. However, the judge was a gun, and the verdict was two bullets in the head.
The tragedy didn’t end with their death. A family member told Al-Akhbar, “We found out about their death over the Internet. It was very sad."

The relatives sought to retrieve the bodies. “We wanted to hold a decent burial for them, is not that the minimum we can do?”

Finally, some volunteers at a civil society organization managed to locate the bodies being held by the Aleppo Sharia Committee, which refused to hand over the body. Reportedly, the committee said, “This is impossible. They declared their Islam. They are now martyrs and should be buried in a proper way, according to Sharia.”

http://english.al-akhbar.com/content/story-two-armenians-arrested-isis

[Haykakan]

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RIP
I hope their families will get the help they need. We send them money but you never know how much of it will get to them. I hope these animals die a terrible death.

[Mher]

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Syrian opposition leader caught raping his granddaughter

can anyone comment on the authenticity of this

[Federate]

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Syrian opposition leader caught raping his granddaughter

can anyone comment on the authenticity of this

The old fuck's name is Mohammad Qassem Al Nasuh. He is a leader of an FSA (you know, the so-called "moderates") battalion called Ahbab Al Sahaba "The Lovers of the Prophet's Companions" and he's also the imam of a mosque in east Idlib. It's other rebels that catch him in the act. I heard he was executed on the spot, not sure what happened to the girl. In the video the old man is saying "it's the first time" and the girl confirms it's her own grandfather and that "he didn't mean it that way, he was having fun". Haven't seen anyone deny the authenticity of the video yet since even opposition supporters are sharing it as fact online.

[arakeretzig]

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RIP
I hope their families will get the help they need. We send them money but you never know how much of it will get to them. I hope these animals die a terrible death.

calling them animals is an insult to animals.
They're not doing themselves any good by pissing off ppl like this, syrians wont tolerate this evil, they'll get theirs one day.

[londontsi]

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