Prospects of a Kurdish state and what it means for Armenia

[KarotheGreat]

Re: Prospects of a Kurdish state and what it means for Armenia

Let's see what makes a Kurd: and comparing to Yazid.

Kurds speak Kurdish: Yazidi Speak Kurdish
Kurds pray in Arabic: Yazidi pray in Kurdish
Kurdish religious books written in Arabic/Kurdish: Yazidi books written in Kurdish
Kurdish culture is the same as Yazidi culture
Kurdish clothes are the same as Yazidi clothes
All kurds were yazidi before Islam

= Yazidi original Kurds.

You fail.

Let us compare

Dutch speak Dutch: Flemish people speak Dutch
Dutch pray in Dutch: Flemish people pray in Dutch
Dutch religious books are in dutch so are the Flemish
They have the same culture
They dress the same

so are they the same people? No they aren't even though they have so many similarities.

[kurdman]

Re: Prospects of a Kurdish state and what it means for Armenia

Let us compare

Dutch speak Dutch: Flemish people speak Dutch
Dutch pray in Dutch: Flemish people pray in Dutch
Dutch religious books are in dutch so are the Flemish
They have the same culture
They dress the same

so are they the same people? No they aren't even though they have so many similarities.

Now your just making comparisons instead of using actual scientific and factual statements to counter me, like I said this stops here, I have no desire in proving anything to an ignorant person like you. It's like talking to a brick wall.

[KarotheGreat]

Re: Prospects of a Kurdish state and what it means for Armenia

Now your just making comparisons instead of using actual scientific and factual statements to counter me, like I said this stops here, I have no desire in proving anything to an ignorant person like you. It's like talking to a brick wall.

I did the same thing as you did, it is not my fault that you don't know the history of the Low Lands is it? And do you think you will achieve anything with insulting me? Will it make your point somehow better? Or will it give you more credibility?

[kurdman]

Re: Prospects of a Kurdish state and what it means for Armenia

I did the same thing as you did, it is not my fault that you don't know the history of the Low Lands is it? And do you think you will achieve anything with insulting me? Will it make your point somehow better? Or will it give you more credibility?

Not every situation can be compared, and must be looked at and analyzed on an individual basis, and I don't care about the dutch, the Yazidi however are Kurds, and have always been Kurds, and like I said 40,000 confused Yazidis in Armenia will not change anything, every scholar in the world is lunging at what the notion of a yazidi ethnicity and everyone in the world knows Yazidis are Kurds, including the Yazid:

Yazidis are predominantly ethnic Kurds http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...t-Yazidis.html

Now, I've provided so many sources, all you've done, is twist my words, make a stupid comparison and think your right, so like I said, I will just ignore you from now on.

Armenian parliament supports Yazidikhaya

Many Armenian politicians support Amare’s group and not those that consider Yazidis to be Kurds. This has further contributed to the Yazidis’ identity crisis. The politicians’ support for Amare’s organization is mostly because of historical reasons, among them the massacre of Armenians by the Ottomans in early 20th century. Many Armenian Kurds say the parts of Kurdistan currently in Turkey were historically populated by Armenians, before the Kurds took over the area.

In 2002, the Armenian parliament passed a resolution identifying the Yazidis as non-Kurds while in reality right wing Armenians have look down upon all minorities in Armenia, not only Kurds.

Another major factor contributing to this identity crisis is the lack of any relationship between Kurds in various parts of Kurdistan and the Yazidis of Armenia. The Reya Taza newspaper, the most important Kurdish publication in Armenia, does not receive any support from the Kurds of other parts of Kurdistan.

Yazidikhana newspaper however, the one that opposes the Kurds, receives support from the Armenian government and it is published on a weekly basis. Also, half of the one-hour Kurdish radio broadcast in Armenia is dedicated to those who argue that Yazidis are not Kurds.

Another major problem is the weakening of Kurdish identity among urban Yazidis, especially those living in the capital and other large cities and do not care if they are Kurds or not. Also, many Kurds who live as minorities in villages dominated by conservative Armenians avoid revealing their Kurdish identity, so as to not provoke their Armenian neighbors.

More @ http://www.rudaw.net/english/culture_art/3626.html or in Russian: http://www.ezdixane.ru/content/view/2014/27/

Yazidi Kurds else where are now fully aware of your intentions, and it will not go un-noticed, trust me.

Like I told you, eventually Kurdistan will be much more appealing to these people than Armenia is, and once more frequent visits to their holy sites of Lalish occur, all we have to do is re-educate them, so your efforts will fail miserably.

[KarotheGreat]

Re: Prospects of a Kurdish state and what it means for Armenia

Not every situation can be compared, and must be looked at and analyzed on an individual basis, and I don't care about the dutch, the Yazidi however are Kurds, and have always been Kurds, and like I said 40,000 confused Yazidis in Armenia will not change anything, every scholar in the world is lunging at what the notion of a yazidi ethnicity and everyone in the world knows Yazidis are Kurds, including the Yazid:

Yazidis are predominantly ethnic Kurds http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...t-Yazidis.html

Now, I've provided so many sources, all you've done, is twist my words, make a stupid comparison and think your right, so like I said, I will just ignore you from now on.



More @ http://www.rudaw.net/english/culture_art/3626.html or in Russian: http://www.ezdixane.ru/content/view/2014/27/

Yazidi Kurds else where are now fully aware of your intentions, and it will not go un-noticed, trust me.

Like I told you, eventually Kurdistan will be much more appealing to these people than Armenia is, and once more frequent visits to their holy sites of Lalish occur, all we have to do is re-educate them, so your efforts will fail miserably.

So you use the daily mail that not even British people use in debates because it is filled with so much BS no one takes it seriously. Your Second source if it even can be called that is a Kurdish newspaper so if you find real sources. You really should do better result before posting.

[kurdman]

Re: Prospects of a Kurdish state and what it means for Armenia

So you use the daily mail that not even British people use in debates because it is filled with so much BS no one takes it seriously. Your Second source if it even can be called that is a Kurdish newspaper so if you find real sources. You really should do better result before posting.

Yeah yeah, the typical ignorant behavior "I'm right, everyone is wrong' If you didn't bother to read, the report followed an interview.

More Yazidi sites: http://www.ezdixane.ru/ in Russian.

It's inevitable, Yazidis are among the most nationalist Kurds in the south, you think they will just let you brain wash their people in Armenia? you think eventually there will not be frequent visits to lalish? it's just a matter of time, and that twat, fool that your government bought will fail, I mean the kind of crap he said was amazing, I don't know where you found him, he spoke to the reporter in Kurmaji Kurdish and said 'The yazidi language is different, we can't understand Kurds' while he was speaking to the reporter in the same language, it's ridiculous what some uneducated trolls will do for money, but don't worry it won't be too long becuase their re-educated.

[kurdman]

Re: Prospects of a Kurdish state and what it means for Armenia

More sources (Books) -

http://books.google.com/books?id=pyAlAAAAMAAJ&pg=RA2-PA490&dq=Yezidi+kurds&hl=en&ei=LkLxTY26FMe6hAeRz_Ur&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=3&ved=0CD0Q6AEwAg#v=onepage&q=Yezidi%20kurds&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?id=gwZQAAAAMAAJ&pg=PT43&dq=Yezidi+kurds&hl=en&ei=LkLxTY26FMe6hAeRz_Ur&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=2&ved=0CDkQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=Yezidi%20kurds&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?id=E4CiKKGrcu0C&pg=PA136&dq=Yezidi+kurds&hl=en&ei=DELxTby7O4KChQfZhbEZ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=8&ved=0CFoQ6AEwBw#v=onepage&q=Yezidi%20kurds&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?id=q_189OeDwSMC&pg=PA490&dq=Yezidi+kurds&hl=en&ei=DELxTby7O4KChQfZhbEZ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=7&ved=0CFYQ6AEwBg#v=onepage&q=Yezidi%20kurds&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?id=njQMAQAAMAAJ&q=Yezidi+kurds&dq=Yezidi+kurds&hl=en&ei=DELxTby7O4KChQfZhbEZ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=5&ved=0CE0Q6AEwBA

http://books.google.com/books?id=zPURfHC65xUC&pg=PA40&dq=Yezidi+kurds&hl=en&ei=DELxTby7O4KChQfZhbEZ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=2&ved=0CD0Q6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=Yezidi%20kurds&f=false

[KarotheGreat]

Re: Prospects of a Kurdish state and what it means for Armenia

Yeah yeah, the typical ignorant behavior "I'm right, everyone is wrong' If you didn't bother to read, the report followed an interview.

More Yazidi sites: http://www.ezdixane.ru/ in Russian.

It's inevitable, Yazidis are among the most nationalist Kurds in the south, you think they will just let you brain wash their people in Armenia? you think eventually there will not be frequent visits to lalish? it's just a matter of time, and that twat, fool that your government bought will fail, I mean the kind of crap he said was amazing, I don't know where you found him, he spoke to the reporter in Kurmaji Kurdish and said 'The yazidi language is different, we can't understand Kurds' while he was speaking to the reporter in the same language, it's ridiculous what some uneducated trolls will do for money, but don't worry it won't be too long becuase their re-educated.

OOOOhhhh the new state will be such a liberal place. You will force people to accept something that they don't want. Re-education in special camps yes the sate will be a bacon of freedom and equality. :s

[kurdman]

Re: Prospects of a Kurdish state and what it means for Armenia

OOOOhhhh the new state will be such a liberal place. You will force people to accept something that they don't want. Re-education in special camps yes the sate will be a bacon of freedom and equality. :s

Read what I wrote again, the YAZIDI themselves are not happy about it, they themselves stated that their Kurdishness will not be compromised or challenged, so if they want to re-educate their own religious brothers that live else where, no body can stop them.

Erbil, April 11 (AKnews) – The Kurdistan Regional Government (KRG) has opened for the first time a museum for the Syriac Heritage in Erbil, the capital of Kurdistan Region.
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The museum was opened in a ceremony in the predominantly Christian town of Ainkawa, some 5 km west of Erbil city, where more than 2,000 artifacts have been put on the showcase.

“When we talk bout protecting the Christians, we do not mean to protect them as refugees, they are indigenous people of this country and have contributed to determining the history of Iraq” said Kurdistan Regional Government (KRG)'s Minister of Culture and Youths Kawa Mahmoud during the opening.

Syriac personalities including the Beshar Mati Warda, archbishop of Chaldean Diocese of Erbil.

“we are very pleased to see this museum open in Erbil where our history is being preserved” said Warda, “It is regrettable tat the Iraqi government has not taken such a brave step, thus denying our history which is a form of terror”

“We do not need the construction of churches, but schools where our history is studied so that the Iraqi people know how much we have served this country” he added.

The museum shows 2000 artifacts that include clothes, agricultural tools, home equipments, Syriac writings, journalism, music instruments, and all the heritage that date back to some 50 to 250 years collected from around Iraqi cities and towns, said Saadi Malih, director of Syriac Culture in the KRG Ministry of Culture and Youth.

http://www.aknews.com/en/aknews/1/231184/

You won't win, our constitution and actions prove that we are way more tolerant than you are.

[KarotheGreat]

Re: Prospects of a Kurdish state and what it means for Armenia

Read what I wrote again, the YAZIDI themselves are not happy about it, they themselves stated that their Kurdishness will not be compromised or challenged, so if they want to re-educate their own religious brothers that live else where, no body can stop them.

http://www.aknews.com/en/aknews/1/231184/

You won't win, our constitution and actions prove that we are way more tolerant than you are.

Proof that they are not happy? They themselves don't want to be called Kurds.

In Armenia everyone is equal as any other real state. How are you more tolerant, by forcefully 're-educating' people accepting your view of them? Is that what is tolerant and liberal?