Prospects of a Kurdish state and what it means for Armenia

[Armanen]

Re: Prospects of a Kurdish state and what it means for Armenia

Iraqi kurdistan better than Armenia? On what level? That you have some oil, are part of a fake country that was put together in the 20s. How many people can read and write in iraqi kurdistan? How many doctors per 1000 people? How many schools per 1000 people? how many higher level educational institutions? I could go on and on.

You come here, insult Armenians and Armenia, spread your nationalist bs and then expect others to play nice and take your views as the Gospel.

Goodluck with the nation building process, you guys will need it, and see what happens when the Americans and israelis decide or are compelled to stop supporting iraqi kurdistan.

[kurdman]

Re: Prospects of a Kurdish state and what it means for Armenia

Iraqi kurdistan better than Armenia? On what level? That you have some oil, are part of a fake country that was put together in the 20s. How many people can read and write in iraqi kurdistan? How many doctors per 1000 people? How many schools per 1000 people? how many higher level educational institutions? I could go on and on.

In the 90's Kurdistan had 2 universities, today it has 20, and many more U/C, we also have an american university, with American lecturers. Our government has a $100 million budget a year which is spent on sending the top 2 students from every school to the best universities abroad and we have agreements with EU and US in this regard.

Since 2005, we've built 3000 new schools, and many international private schools. the illiterate rate is low, but high among the older generation 60+ as their lives as been mostly in war time, since 2005 we've built 100's of local hospitals, and tens of big hospitals.

i.e. (Just a small examples, and there are many more where this came from) - This is a hospital by the way, there are tens more big hospitals U/C.

You come here, insult Armenians and Armenia, spread your nationalist bs and then expect others to play nice and take your views as the Gospel.

Your all running away from the truth which is Armenia as a fascist Kurdish policy, while we do not have a fascist policy for Armenians or Assyrians, so who's the 'nationalist' here?

Goodluck with the nation building process, you guys will need it, and see what happens when the Americans and israelis decide or are compelled to stop supporting iraqi kurdistan.

1- We don't have Israeli support, it's all propaganda.
2- American support is very limited and it's to Iraq as a whole and not especially for Kurdistan, we have oil + 375,000 soldiers, so nothing is going to happen.

P.S:

- Many tourist companies have included Kurdistan in their top tourist destinations.
- Top gear visited Kurdistan in their Christmas special, and spent 30 (show-time) minutes there.

[KarotheGreat]

Re: Prospects of a Kurdish state and what it means for Armenia

So we got a state where Turkey has bases in and can increase their bases any moment it wants. Also a state that will host an American base in the future, because the Americans will not drop the ball on an opportunity like this. So how is it in our interest to support such a country I don't get it?

Please tell me what are those fascistic Kurdish policies.

[kurdman]

Re: Prospects of a Kurdish state and what it means for Armenia

So we got a state where Turkey has bases in and can increase their bases any moment it wants. Also a state that will host an American base in the future, because the Americans will not drop the ball on an opportunity like this. So how is it in our interest to support such a country I don't get it?

Please tell me what are those fascistic Kurdish policies.

Please read previous posts before making stupid comments, we can not logically ask the Turks to leave while refusing to make the PKK leave, we will not have any countries backing on this becuase it does not make sense, and no the Turks can't just increase man power if they want, lol.

[KarotheGreat]

Re: Prospects of a Kurdish state and what it means for Armenia

Please read previous posts before making stupid comments, we can not logically ask the Turks to leave while refusing to make the PKK leave, we will not have any countries backing on this becuase it does not make sense, and no the Turks can't just increase man power if they want, lol.

Who is going to stop them? The Kurds living there or do you think the Americans will do that. If Turkey wants that it will do that and the world will just spout empty words nothing more.

[Mos]

Re: Prospects of a Kurdish state and what it means for Armenia

Is your brain compromised? how many times should I repeat this?

40,000 Confused Yazidis vs 500,000 Nationalist Kurdish Yazidis in south, who wins? all you need to admit is that your government has a fascist policy when it comes to Kurds in it's state and promotes division, it's not hard you know, all you have to do is find someone that would sell their dignity for some money, give them money and make them spread propaganda. As you can see from the links below there are no differences between Muslim and Yazidi Kurds (In fact, there has never been division between Kurds becuase of religion, there are many nationalist Kurdish xxxs), however there are issues in Armenia, promoted by the government, which is reflected in your attitude to the topic.

Care to continue this nationalistic dribble? You honestly think Armenian government is caring very hard on divisions within the Kurdish community? What about Yazidis elsewhere? If there's never been division within Kurds, and Armenia is magically "dividing" the Kurds then Yazidis would only exist in Armenia - but that's of course not the case, Yazidis are spread across many countries not just Armenia.

see what happens when the Americans and israelis decide or are compelled to stop supporting iraqi kurdistan.

They need to be fed from several places to actually make progress...

[londontsi]

Re: Prospects of a Kurdish state and what it means for Armenia

kurdman

I have been reading your posts for some time.
You appear to be a master at talking from your arse.

So much shi.t not worth bothering with.

I am quite sensitive regarding the truth about the Yezidi which you skilfully ( read with bs ) distort.

Your ignorance is so deep that it did not even cross your mind to do even the most basic research.
Maybe you though "they are my brothers and therefore they are like me".

Five minutes on the internet and its surprising how much information there is.

I am putting couple of links ( so you do not stretch and dislocate your brain) for you to see the truth.

http://www.yeziditruth.org/

http://www.angelfire.com/az/rescon/mgcyazid.html

[kurdman]

Re: Prospects of a Kurdish state and what it means for Armenia

They need to be fed from several places to actually make progress...

So, funny I forgot to laugh, if anything your being breast fed by Russia, we however do not get any military or money support from other nations, it's all our governments success.

[bell-the-cat]

Re: Prospects of a Kurdish state and what it means for Armenia

BTW, the only Kurds who seemed to help Armenians were the Dersim- Kurds that were once Armenians and then largely eradicated by Ataturk in the 1920's.

The Dersimli are not Kurds, they are mostly the descendants of Islamised Armenians (though those Islamised Armenians may actually have been an Armenianised native population). At the end of the 19th century there was a brief campaign by the patriarchate in Constantinople to get them to return to the Armenian church, they actually published an Armenian bible in the Dersimli Zaza dialect (but written using Armenian letters) - but it only resulted in the Ottoman authorities expelling from Dersim what remained of the rural Christian Armenian population.

Here are some pages of that bible:

[Mos]

Re: Prospects of a Kurdish state and what it means for Armenia

So, funny I forgot to laugh, if anything your being breast fed by Russia, we however do not get any military or money support from other nations, it's all our governments success.

Look at our history first before talking. Your statement in bold is what is funny.