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Prospects of a Kurdish state and what it means for Armenia

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  • Re: Prospects of a Kurdish state and what it means for Armenia

    Originally posted by KarotheGreat View Post
    Proof that they are not happy? They themselves don't want to be called Kurds.

    In Armenia everyone is equal as any other real state. How are you more tolerant, by forcefully 're-educating' people accepting your view of them? Is that what is tolerant and liberal?
    I told you, Yazidis in southern Kurdistan are not happy with the situation of their people in Armenia, it's not forcing, rather education people, becuase obviously they living in Armenia and cut off from the rest of the Kurdish population has resulted in them being brainwashed.

    All our minorities are happy, including Turkmen, and we don't force Kurdish on anyone, in fact every minority group have their own schools in which they learn their own language first, and Kurdish second (if they wish to continue to university, and for employment).

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    • Re: Prospects of a Kurdish state and what it means for Armenia

      Originally posted by kurdman View Post
      I told you, Yazidis in southern Kurdistan are not happy with the situation of their people in Armenia, it's not forcing, rather education people, becuase obviously they living in Armenia and cut off from the rest of the Kurdish population has resulted in them being brainwashed.

      All our minorities are happy, including Turkmen, and we don't force Kurdish on anyone, in fact every minority group have their own schools in which they learn their own language first, and Kurdish second (if they wish to continue to university, and for employment).
      You are trying to force it on people that don't want to accept it. It doesn't matter what they believe the ones living in Armenia don't want to be called Kurds, and they wont be. You forcing them accept Kurdishness is against their basic human rights. You are no better than the Turk that insisted that the Kurd was just mountain Turk and no such thing as a Kurd existed.

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      • Re: Prospects of a Kurdish state and what it means for Armenia

        Originally posted by KarotheGreat View Post
        You are trying to force it on people that don't want to accept it. It doesn't matter what they believe the ones living in Armenia don't want to be called Kurds, and they wont be. You forcing them accept Kurdishness is against their basic human rights. You are no better than the Turk that insisted that the Kurd was just mountain Turk and no such thing as a Kurd existed.
        Lol, right... if anything your the one taking the same path as the Turks by trieng to divide Kurds in your country, and you this is an internal Yazidi issue and whether they want to be called kurds or not doesn't change the fact that they are kurds, their just un-educated, once they pay a visit they'll come back to their roots, after all there are even Americans that call themselves Kurds now

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        • Re: Prospects of a Kurdish state and what it means for Armenia

          Originally posted by kurdman View Post
          Lol, right... if anything your the one taking the same path as the Turks by trieng to divide Kurds in your country, and you this is an internal Yazidi issue and whether they want to be called kurds or not doesn't change the fact that they are kurds, their just un-educated, once they pay a visit they'll come back to their roots, after all there are even Americans that call themselves Kurds now
          You don't get it do you they don't want to be called Kurds, we will not force an identity on them that they don't want. When will you stop this racist BS and accept the choice of these people to do as they see fit. They don't need your permission or any other Kurds to do as they see fit. They don't want to be Kurds they aren't Kurds then.

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          • Re: Prospects of a Kurdish state and what it means for Armenia

            Originally posted by KarotheGreat View Post
            You don't get it do you they don't want to be called Kurds, we will not force an identity on them that they don't want. When will you stop this racist BS and accept the choice of these people to do as they see fit. They don't need your permission or any other Kurds to do as they see fit. They don't want to be Kurds they aren't Kurds then.
            Directly the results of the fascist Armenian policy we will just correct it. Funny until now you were determined that Yazidi were a different ethnicity, and now that you've nothing left, you resort to making statements like let them chose what they want, hilarious.

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            • Re: Prospects of a Kurdish state and what it means for Armenia

              Originally posted by kurdman View Post
              Directly the results of the fascist Armenian policy we will just correct it. Funny until now you were determined that Yazidi were a different ethnicity, and now that you've nothing left, you resort to making statements like let them chose what they want, hilarious.
              Show me proof of this fascist Armenian policy? Proof with real sources or apologize.

              They say they are that is good for me and everyone else on this planet except the Kurds but who cares for you guys.

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              • Re: Prospects of a Kurdish state and what it means for Armenia

                Originally posted by KarotheGreat View Post
                Show me proof of this fascist Armenian policy? Proof with real sources or apologize.

                They say they are that is good for me and everyone else on this planet except the Kurds but who cares for you guys.
                That does not make sense,

                And I showed you the proof, a Kurdish newspaper interviewed Muslim and Yazidi Kurds in Armenian and the response was that certain Armenian MPs support the idea that Yazidi are not Kurds and provide financial support for their newspapers that spread propaganda while the Muslim Kurds get no support.

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                • Re: Prospects of a Kurdish state and what it means for Armenia

                  Originally posted by kurdman View Post
                  That does not make sense,

                  And I showed you the proof, a Kurdish newspaper interviewed Muslim and Yazidi Kurds in Armenian and the response was that certain Armenian MPs support the idea that Yazidi are not Kurds and provide financial support for their newspapers that spread propaganda while the Muslim Kurds get no support.
                  That is not proof first your source is biased, totally biased. Provide neutral sources. Second Armenia helps the minority what is fascistic about that. Do you even know what the word means?
                  Here I will help you:1. often Fascism
                  a. A system of government marked by centralization of authority under a dictator, stringent socioeconomic controls, suppression of the opposition through terror and censorship, and typically a policy of belligerent nationalism and racism.
                  b. A political philosophy or movement based on or advocating such a system of government.
                  2. Oppressive, dictatorial control.

                  or

                  ascism [ˈfæʃɪzəm]
                  n (sometimes capital)
                  1. (Government, Politics & Diplomacy) any ideology or movement inspired by Italian Fascism, such as German National Socialism; any right-wing nationalist ideology or movement with an authoritarian and hierarchical structure that is fundamentally opposed to democracy and liberalism
                  2. (Government, Politics & Diplomacy) any ideology, movement, programme, tendency, etc., that may be characterized as right-wing, chauvinist, authoritarian, etc.
                  3. prejudice in relation to the subject specified body fascism

                  if you can not get the def of word right how can we trust you to get everything else right. Now provide neutral sources for your claims or apologize.

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                  • Re: Prospects of a Kurdish state and what it means for Armenia

                    Originally posted by KarotheGreat View Post
                    That is not proof first your source is biased, totally biased. Provide neutral sources. Second Armenia helps the minority what is fascistic about that. Do you even know what the word means?
                    Here I will help you:1. often Fascism
                    a. A system of government marked by centralization of authority under a dictator, stringent socioeconomic controls, suppression of the opposition through terror and censorship, and typically a policy of belligerent nationalism and racism.
                    b. A political philosophy or movement based on or advocating such a system of government.
                    2. Oppressive, dictatorial control.

                    or

                    ascism [ˈfæʃɪzəm]
                    n (sometimes capital)
                    1. (Government, Politics & Diplomacy) any ideology or movement inspired by Italian Fascism, such as German National Socialism; any right-wing nationalist ideology or movement with an authoritarian and hierarchical structure that is fundamentally opposed to democracy and liberalism
                    2. (Government, Politics & Diplomacy) any ideology, movement, programme, tendency, etc., that may be characterized as right-wing, chauvinist, authoritarian, etc.
                    3. prejudice in relation to the subject specified body fascism

                    if you can not get the def of word right how can we trust you to get everything else right. Now provide neutral sources for your claims or apologize.
                    There won't be a neutral source becuase the issue is not a significant one for the worlds media to pay attention too. and It's not biased, if you bothered to read all of it, it describes how alot of 'Kurdish first' originated in Armenia, and how the recent policy started in 1990's

                    Read the whole thing, than get back to me.

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                    • Re: Prospects of a Kurdish state and what it means for Armenia

                      Originally posted by HermanGerman
                      another mountain turk with real turkish education and ideology.
                      Yazidi people should have the right to speak for their own, not been forced by some fascist kurds, the same fascist kurds who force the zaza people into their racist ideology of greater kurdistan. I am sure, that a kurdistan ruled by such morons will be a greater threat than turkey.
                      and by the way, the most criminal group in germany are the kurds from mardin and other eastern turkish provinces....extremely backward and full of criminal energy...
                      Read your post again, read it twice, go back to school and when your done, read it again and then tell me who's racist?

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