Prospects of a Kurdish state and what it means for Armenia

[Artsakh]

Re: Prospects of a Kurdish state and what it means for Armenia

P.S: I'm aware that you guys promote 'Yezid' nationalism in Armenia and I think that your making a big mistake.

Yezdis also took part in the Karabakh war. Today, there are even a few Yezidis that serve on the front-lines with Azerbaijan. Yezidis have their rights in Armenia and are free to practice their customs. There is no issue we have with the Yezidis.

[Artsakh]

Re: Prospects of a Kurdish state and what it means for Armenia

The Kurdish army or peshmerga currently has 200,000 regular soldiers and 90,000 reserves and the rest are police, we spend 20% of our annual budget on the armed forces which is around $2-3 billion, however the Kurdish government is very secretive in regards to their military issues and not much is known, the only things that you'll see is their humvees and other American vehicles. There are 6-8 million Kurds in Iraq, but there are other pro-Kurd groups too.

As you correctly pointed out, Kurdistan has a lot of oil and gas, so far we've found 45 billion barrels of oil and 300 TCF of gas, and that is excluding Kirkuk.

In regards to the torks, they have an anti-Kurdish policy since america liberated Iraq, and they practiced that policy via the Turkmen front, however their policy failed miserably time and time again, and we the Kurds won and kept gaining more and more power, until the Turks realized that they can not counter us, they have gone from saying 'we will invade over Kirkuk to:-

BAGHDAD: Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan is to visit Iraq and attempt to broker talks between ethnic Turkmen and Kurds over their rival claims to the oil-rich city of Kirkuk, a Turkmen politician said yesterday.
Turkey is pressuring us to narrow our differences with the Kurds" over Kirkuk, said Saadeddin Arkij, head of Iraq's Turkmen Front, the largest political party representing the country's Turkmen minority.

http://www.kuwaittimes.net/read_news.php?newsid=OTYwNzU0NTc3

The torks are also afraid of the fact that we have influence over the BDP and can get them to organize an uprising or mass protests with in a day. Things are going well for Kurds now, the region is going through alot of problems for example, Syria is on the verge of collapse, Iran is under heavy sanctions and the divisions between secular and conservative Turks is growing.

P.S: I'm aware that you guys promote 'Yezid' nationalism in Armenia and I think that your making a big mistake.

Keep us updated on anything new my friend. Also, what is your view of the PKK that they will unleash war against Turkey after the elections if certain demands are not met? Immediately after that statement a few Turkish soldiers and policement were targeted and killed. It seems like it's cooled down. What do you expect after the elections in Turkey?

[Artsakh]

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Zachary Shore, a professor of national security affairs at the Naval Postgraduate School, also said U.S. troops should be moved to northern Iraq. This strategy would allow the United States to continue training Iraqi forces, while at the same time helping build up the infrastructure in the "relatively successful, quasi-independent Kurdish region," he told San Francisco Chronicle.

Galbraith reiterated earlier remarks that Turkey, although it was not happy with the prospect of having to see an independent Kurdish state, had no feasible options to stop that development.

Any Turkish military incursion to stop Iraqi Kurdish independence would rupture ties with the United Nations and make sure that Ankara would not be allowed to join the European Union "in this century," he said.

Galbraith, instead, suggested that there was an increasingly receptive and "realistic" attitude in Turkey toward an independent Kurdish state in northern Iraq.

[kurdman]

Re: Prospects of a Kurdish state and what it means for Armenia

"Kurdistan" has no oil to speak of - though, given that any place in the world seems to become "Kurdistan" when Kurds murder or expell or outnumber the previous population, then that sort of artificially expanded "Kurdistan" could indeed have oil.

Ok, right.

But back to reality:-

Kurdistan plan boosts Nabucco hopes

A new bloc of European and Arab energy companies unveiled an $8 billion plan to pump enough gas from Iraq's Kurdistan region to kick start the Nabucco pipeline project and reduce Europe's reliance on Russia.

http://www.upstreamonline.com/live/article178724.ece

RWE and Kurdistan Regional Government of Iraq sign cooperation agreements RWE a german company is a major player in the European pipeline team. http://www.rwe.com/web/cms/en/113648.../?pmid=4005259

Kurdistan Says Its Gas Can Quench Nabucco Pipeline for 100 Years. http://www.rudaw.net/english/business/3521.html

Govt Says Iraqi Kurdistan Has 70 Years of Oil Reserves http://www.rudaw.net/english/kurds/3519.html

[kurdman]

Re: Prospects of a Kurdish state and what it means for Armenia

Yezdis also took part in the Karabakh war. Today, there are even a few Yezidis that serve on the front-lines with Azerbaijan. Yezidis have their rights in Armenia and are free to practice their customs. There is no issue we have with the Yezidis.

Yezidi is not an ethnicity, it's a sect... in Armenia people promote Yezidi nationalism and try to create divisions between Kurds in Armenia. How many MPs do they have in your government? we give Armenians in South Kurdistan one reserved seat in parliament even if no one votes for the MP, and 5 seats to Assyrians/Chaldeans.

[kurdman]

Re: Prospects of a Kurdish state and what it means for Armenia

Keep us updated on anything new my friend. Also, what is your view of the PKK that they will unleash war against Turkey after the elections if certain demands are not met? Immediately after that statement a few Turkish soldiers and policement were targeted and killed. It seems like it's cooled down. What do you expect after the elections in Turkey?

I don't know much about Turkish politics, I suspect the AKP will win though.

[kurdman]

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Why? Because it goes against your ethnic ideology? There are few national histories as full of myths and lies as Kurdish historiography - it is worse even than that of Azerbaijan. At least the Azeris aren't saying that all Armenians are actually ethnic Azeris, unlike Kurdish racist ideology that denies the Yezidi the right to exist. Kurds may be able to con ignorant journalists and European politicians into believing Kurdish lies, but any experts on the region's history, and ALL Yezidi, know that the Yezidi are NOT Kurds. And neither are the Dersimli, or most of the Zaza, all of which denies to Kurdish expansionism the right to claim large areas of Turkey as "Kurdistan". And of course almost all of the rest of "Kurdistan" in Turkey was originally Armenia.

Hey genius what are the Yezid then? if their not kurds, why do they speak Kurdish? why are their religious books written in Kurdish? Zaza are Kurdish as they are a group similar to Gorani and Hawrami Kurdish dialects where as Kurmanji is similar to Sorani dialect, and sorani people are just Gorani people influenced by Kurmanji people.

[bell-the-cat]

Re: Prospects of a Kurdish state and what it means for Armenia

Hey genius what are the Yezid then? if their not kurds, why do they speak Kurdish? why are their religious books written in Kurdish? Zaza are Kurdish as they are a group similar to Gorani and Hawrami Kurdish dialects where as Kurmanji is similar to Sorani dialect, and sorani people are just Gorani people influenced by Kurmanji people.

Why don't you go the whole hog and claim Armenians are Kurds, Azeris are Kurds, Turks are Kurds? You claim the Yezidi are not an ethnicity, but a sect. But Kurds are not an ethnicity, they are a lifestyle: tribal nomads who lived and expanded parasitically by plundering their neighbours.

[KarotheGreat]

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To be honest I'm with Bell on this one, there are two reasons for that.

One, I like the Yezidis, they are very loyal to the Armenian state, even more loyal than some Armenians. Also their culture and the way they speak Armenian. So I don't like the BS that is being spread around here.
Secondly, an independent Kurdistan will be an puppet of the West(the US), and will be against Armenians interests. The only reason why would want an independent Kurdistan is too piss off Turkey, I can't see any other reason. Add to everything the claims they are making on Western-Armenia.

What would Armenia gain by supporting the creation of yet an other Western puppet that will be hostile against many of our allies aka Russia and Iran.

[kurdman]

Re: Prospects of a Kurdish state and what it means for Armenia

Don't be a hypocrite, we both know small nations need the help of other bigger nations to survive, after all without the ruskies you would have been wiped off by now.

Also, if you have any scientific claims that Yezidis are not Kurds, please enlighten me! there are only 40,000 yezidis in Armenia, however there are 500,000 in Southern Kurdistan and just becuase a couple yezidis are being brain washed it does not mean anything.

Like I said, Yezidi sacred books are written in Kurdish.

P.S: We're no 'puppet' of the US, we do however have mutual interest, for example the US told Kurdish leaders not to take the Iraqi presidency however becuase it's in our interest to take the post we still did.