Prospects of a Kurdish state and what it means for Armenia

[Artsakh]

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A possible sign Turkey's faith is sealed? From the same Turkey who just days ago was speaking of "confidence of US Support in case of conflict with Russia."
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Turkey warns US, Russia against backing Kurdish militia in Syria: Officials

Turkey has warned the United States and Russia it will not tolerate Kurdish territorial gains by Kurdish militia close to its frontiers in north-western Syria, two senior officials said.

"This is clear cut for us and there is no joking about it," one official said of the possibility of Syrian Kurdish militia crossing the Euphrates to extend control along Turkish borders from Iraq's Kurdistan region toward the Mediterranean coast.

Turkey fears advances by Kurdish People's Protection Units (YPG) militia, backed by its Democratic Union Party (PYD) political wing, on the Syrian side of its 900-kilometer border will fuel separatist ambitions among Kurds in its own southeastern territories. But Washington has supported YPG fighters as an effective force in combating Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL).

"The PYD has been getting closer with both the United States and Russia of late. We view the PYD as a terrorist group and we want all countries to consider the consequences of their cooperation," one of the Turkish officials said, referring to the PYD, which Turkey links to the outlawed Kurdistan Workers’ Party (PKK).

Turkey suspects Russia, which launched air strikes in Syria two weeks ago, has also been lending support to the PYD and YPG, its armed wing.

"With support from Russia, the PYD is trying to capture land between Jarablus and Azaz, going west of the Euphrates. We will never accept this," the official said.

source: http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/tur...&NewsCatID=510

[gokorik]

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Syrian Kurds 'razing entire villages captured from IS'
BBC

Kurdish forces have carried out a wave of forced displacement and mass house demolitions - amounting to war crimes - in northern Syria, a rights group says.
A report by Amnesty International accuses the Popular Protection Units (YPG) of razing entire villages after capturing them from Islamic State (IS).
This appeared to be in retaliation for residents' perceived sympathies with or links to the jihadist group, it says.
The YPG is a key ally of the US-led international coalition against IS.
Coalition air strikes, as well as air drops of weapons and ammunition, have helped the militia to drive IS out of large parts of northern Syria this year.
Civilians 'caught in middle'
On Tuesday, Amnesty said its researchers had uncovered evidence of "alarming abuses" carried out by the YPG - the military wing of the Democratic Union Party (PYD) - in towns and villages controlled by the Kurdish Autonomous Administration in Hassakeh and Raqqa provinces.
Its report quoted one witness in the village of Husseiniya, in the Tal Hamis area, as saying: "They pulled us out of our homes and began burning the home... they brought the bulldozers... They demolished home after home until the entire village was destroyed."
Satellite images illustrated the scale of the demolitions in Husseiniya, Amnesty said. They show that of 225 buildings that were visible in June 2014, only 14 were still standing by June 2015.


Meanwhile, in villages south of the town of Suluk, some residents told Amnesty's researchers that YPG fighters had accused them of supporting IS and threatened to shoot them if they did not leave.
While in some cases residents acknowledged that there had been a handful of IS supporters in their villages, the majority did not back the jihadist group, Amnesty concluded.
In other cases, residents alleged that YPG fighters had ordered them to leave, threatening them with air strikes if they failed to comply.
"They told us we had to leave or they would tell the US coalition that we were terrorists and their planes would hit us and our families," one person told Amnesty's researchers.
In one incident, YPG fighters allegedly poured petrol on a house, threatening to set it alight with the inhabitants inside.
Amnesty said the YPG had sought to justify its actions, insisting that they were necessary for the civilians' own protection or militarily necessary.
"In its fight against IS, the Autonomous Administration appears to be xxxxxling all over the rights of civilians who are caught in the middle," Amnesty's senior crisis adviser Lama Fakih warned.

Wow, pathetic.

[Artsakh]

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Turkey summons ambassadors from Russia, US
14.10.15


Turkey has summoned ambassadors from both Russia and the United States regarding ties with Kurdish forces in Syria, Turkish Prime Minister Ahmet Davutoğlu has said, reacting to any probable arms support to groups which have ties with the outlawed Kurdistan Workers’ Party(PKK), Hurriyet Daily News reported.


“As the ally countries would not excuse arms support to al-Qaeda-affiliated groups, Turkey cannot excuse any armed support to groups linked to the PKK; it certainly cannot allow any tolerance in this matter,” he said during an Istanbul joint press conference with his visiting Bulgarian counterpart, Boyko Borrisov, on Octber 14, Hurriyet Daily News reports.


The prime minister said no one could guarantee that the arms sent to the Democratic Union Party (PYD) in Syria would not be taken over by the PKK and used against Turkey.


Davutoglu’s reactions came as the US Department of Defense confirmed that a U.S. cargo plane had airdropped logistic material to the PYD late October 11 in line with Washington’s plans to reinforce the Syrian Kurds in their fight against the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL) in Syria.


On October 13, Davutoglu lashed out at both the United States and Russia for supplying weapons and support to the PYD in its bid to fight extremist jihadists. While talking toAnkara newspaper bureau chiefs, Davutoğlu called the United States’ ambassador to Turkey, John Bass, to the Foreign Ministry to convey Ankara’s strong reaction over the airdropping of ammunition.

http://www.tert.am/en/news/2015/10/14/usa/1816056

[Shant03]

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This is a great opportunity, Armenia should get involved indirectly with the Kurds and further destabilize Turkey.

[Eddo211]

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Turks always do that.......the first move they do is to pull the ambassador.
The US embassador must have been pulled 100 times by now.

[Vrej1915]

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http://ianbach2007.blogspot.com/2015/02/kurdish-tribal-confederacies-kurdistan.html

[Vrej1915]

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https://ianbachusa.wordpress.com/2015/02/17/kurdish-borders-kurdiistan-throughout-syria-iraq-iran-and-turkey/

Instructive changes of apetite...
Lokk the differences between what they dreamed about in 1919 (they did not dare talking about most of Western Armenia) , what they got in 1920 by Sevres, and what they already claimed in 1945......

[Vrej1915]

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26 / Հոկտեմբեր / 2015
Սիրիայում նոր նահանգ ստեղծելու քրդերի հայտարարությունը սպառնալիք է Թուրքիայի համար. Էրդողան


Ռուսական tass լրատվական գործակալության փոխանցմամբ՝ Սիրիայի հյուսիսում նոր նահանգ ստեղծելու մասին քրդերի արած հայտարարությունը սպառնալիք է Թուրքիայի համար։ Այս մասին հայտարարել է Թուրքիայի նախագահ Ռեջեփ Էրդողանը.
«Իրավիճակը (սիրիական) Թել Աբյադ քաղաքում, որտեղ քրդական «Դեմոկրատական միություն» կուսակցությունը (pyd) հայտարարել է ինքնակառավարման հիմքերով նոր կազմավորման մասին, սպառնալիք է ներկայացնում Թուրքիայի համար։ Բոլորը պետք է գիտակցեն, որ Անկարան դրան (հայտարարությանը) կարձագանքի ինչպես հարկն է»։ Հաղորդում է Առաջին լրատվականը:

[londontsi]

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The last two posts puts everything into perspective.

Basically the Kurds cannot fart with confidence that they will not spoil their pants!! .... courtesy of Turkey.

We will do map-reading some other time.



PS. Exception cataclysmic geopolitical event.
Our dreams also ....

[Artashes]

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Syrian Kurds 'razing entire villages captured from IS'
BBC

Kurdish forces have carried out a wave of forced displacement and mass house demolitions - amounting to war crimes - in northern Syria, a rights group says.
A report by Amnesty International accuses the Popular Protection Units (YPG) of razing entire villages after capturing them from Islamic State (IS).
This appeared to be in retaliation for residents' perceived sympathies with or links to the jihadist group, it says.
The YPG is a key ally of the US-led international coalition against IS.
Coalition air strikes, as well as air drops of weapons and ammunition, have helped the militia to drive IS out of large parts of northern Syria this year.
Civilians 'caught in middle'
On Tuesday, Amnesty said its researchers had uncovered evidence of "alarming abuses" carried out by the YPG - the military wing of the Democratic Union Party (PYD) - in towns and villages controlled by the Kurdish Autonomous Administration in Hassakeh and Raqqa provinces.
Its report quoted one witness in the village of Husseiniya, in the Tal Hamis area, as saying: "They pulled us out of our homes and began burning the home... they brought the bulldozers... They demolished home after home until the entire village was destroyed."
Satellite images illustrated the scale of the demolitions in Husseiniya, Amnesty said. They show that of 225 buildings that were visible in June 2014, only 14 were still standing by June 2015.


Meanwhile, in villages south of the town of Suluk, some residents told Amnesty's researchers that YPG fighters had accused them of supporting IS and threatened to shoot them if they did not leave.
While in some cases residents acknowledged that there had been a handful of IS supporters in their villages, the majority did not back the jihadist group, Amnesty concluded.
In other cases, residents alleged that YPG fighters had ordered them to leave, threatening them with air strikes if they failed to comply.
"They told us we had to leave or they would tell the US coalition that we were terrorists and their planes would hit us and our families," one person told Amnesty's researchers.
In one incident, YPG fighters allegedly poured petrol on a house, threatening to set it alight with the inhabitants inside.
Amnesty said the YPG had sought to justify its actions, insisting that they were necessary for the civilians' own protection or militarily necessary.
"In its fight against IS, the Autonomous Administration appears to be xxxxxling all over the rights of civilians who are caught in the middle," Amnesty's senior crisis adviser Lama Fakih warned.

Kurds force villagers from their homes ...
Standard kurd hustle. Watch, if left unchecked, the kurds will move into those places and claim its part of kurdistan. That's the self serving goal of kurds in general.
Look at the kurd conduct ... Threaten !!! Villagers !!! with airstikes.
The kurds are heartless and only serve their own interests.
As Armenians, we know ... 3,200 Armenian villages are now occupied almost exclusivly by kurds.
I disagree with those who call for collaboration with the murderous and conniving kurd.
They haven't changed at all from the days of our last genocide. They (kurd) were the primary helpers in that genocide and FORCED relocation (death marches).
Like a cancer, they grow.
Their kurds.