Prospects of a Kurdish state and what it means for Armenia

[Eddo211]

Re: Prospects of a Kurdish state and what it means for Armenia

Do you sympathise with them for the fact that they were instrumental in massacring Armenians? They betrayed their Armenian neighbours for some blood money fit for a dog, and just because we have common enemies right now, doesn't mean we should trust them, since given their history of betrayal, wouldn't be surprised if they stab you in the back right after they use you.

I sympathise that they lost the mountains they roamed in....I live in mountains, nothing like mountains, like Mt Ararat....how did you get trusting Kurds out of my posts? your funny.

More Turks and Kurds at each others throats....the better for Armenia.

[Boris]

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@ Kurdman
Are not the Medes the Ancestors of the Kurds? If so, then why is it mentioned in History that Armenia was conquered by the Kingdom of Media, which ruled it until 549 B.C...? Does not that make you wonder that it was Armenian land before it was considered Kurdish land?

[kurdman]

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@ Kurdman
Are not the Medes the Ancestors of the Kurds? If so, then why is it mentioned in History that Armenia was conquered by the Kingdom of Media, which ruled it until 549 B.C...? Does not that make you wonder that it was Armenian land before it was considered Kurdish land?

No the medes were not Kurds... just a part of our history.. you need to understand that there are over 20 Kurdish dialects, some are very different that they could pass for different languages! the medes where European migrants that conquered the local people of the area they conquered, and so mixing began... so our ancestors were living there before the Europeans conquered them and forced the European language on them...

Look at DNA results of southern Kurds:

17% I1 (Pre-Germanic Nordic)
11.5% R1a (Balto-Slavic, Mycenaean greek)
17% R1b (Italic, celtic, Germanic)
28.5% J2 (Mesopotamian, minoan greek
11.5% J1 (Semite: Arabs, xxxs)

Rest = other.

http://www.eupedia.com/europe/european_y-dna_haplogroups.shtml

As you can see, we have around 35% European DNA and 40% J which is native middle eastern! infact we have 29% J2 which is native Mesopotamian which is southern Kurdistan DNA, so you see just becuase our name has changed alot with time it does not mean we just appeared out of nowhere.

Kurds in the north has some different DNA, infact the only similarities (major similarities) between Kurds in the south and Kurds in the north is their European DNA, otherwise Kurds in the north have more Anatolian DNA, while we have Mesopotamia, what that basically suggests is that the local people were conquered by Europeans... non the less we are indigenous to the regions we live in.

[Mos]

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I sympathise that they lost the mountains they roamed in....I live in mountains, nothing like mountains, like Mt Ararat....how did you get trusting Kurds out of my posts? your funny.

More Turks and Kurds at each others throats....the better for Armenia.

yes let them destroy each other, why should we pick a side?

[Eddo211]

Re: Prospects of a Kurdish state and what it means for Armenia

yes let them destroy each other, why should we pick a side?

Who told you we should pick sides?

[Mos]

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Who told you we should pick sides?

It seemed to me that you were siding with the Kurds, I guess I misunderstood you.

[bell-the-cat]

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Welcome to Kurdistan

Yes, it's amazing what an absence of American bombs and missiles (but a plentyfull supply of American dollars) will do for the appearance of a city.

[haysip]

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I wouldnt be surprised if kurdman and persopolis are the same person. right after the "persian" left, the "kurd" came in

[bell-the-cat]

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No the medes were not Kurds... just a part of our history.. you need to understand that there are over 20 Kurdish dialects, some are very different that they could pass for different languages! the medes where European migrants that conquered the local people of the area they conquered, and so mixing began... so our ancestors were living there before the Europeans conquered them and forced the European language on them....

The average "Kurd on the street" in Turkey will often tell you that the Kurds are descendants of the Medes. I don't know whether this is some modern invention to give Kurds a longer and more glorious history, or if it is perhaps derived from the medieval Armenian chroniclers often referring to the Kurds as "Mar" (they also used the word "Mar" for real Medians). See V. Minorsky, Studies in Caucasian History, p127. The same Armenian manuscript about alphabets in which the lost alphabet of the Caucasian Albanians was famously rediscovered also contained an example of "the language of the Medians (Mar)". Minorsky describes it as "a prayer in Kurdish". I wonder what alphabet it was written in?

[Armanen]

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@Armanen
One on one Iran can handle the Kurds any day but that is not how politics works and it is never one on one there are always others joining in.

The point is that the kurds can not take on turkey at this time let alone Iran and turkey. The kurds have better chances of getting lands from turkey than Iran. The lands the kurds claim in turkey is occupied mostly by kurds, while the lands they claim in north-western Iran is occupied by Azaris.