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  • #331
    Re: Politics in Hayastan

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    Politics is not about the pursuit of morality nor what's right or wrong
    Its about self interest at personal and national level often at odds with the above.
    Great politicians pursue the National interest and small politicians personal interests

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    • #332
      Re: Politics in Hayastan

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      Politics is not about the pursuit of morality nor what's right or wrong
      Its about self interest at personal and national level often at odds with the above.
      Great politicians pursue the National interest and small politicians personal interests

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      • #333
        Re: Politics in Hayastan

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        Politics is not about the pursuit of morality nor what's right or wrong
        Its about self interest at personal and national level often at odds with the above.
        Great politicians pursue the National interest and small politicians personal interests

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        • #334
          Re: Politics in Hayastan

          Ինչ է կատարվում ՊՊԾ գնդի տարածքում.

          Արայիկ Խանդոյանն ու Վարուժան Ավետիսյանը ներսում են

          Հուլիս 27 2016

          ArmLur.am-ի հավաստի աղբյուրների փոխանցմամբ` «Սասնա ծռեր» խմբի անդամներ «Միայնակ գայլը»` Արայիկ Խանդոյանը, Արեգ Կյուրեղյանը, Վարուժան Ավետիսյանը ու ևս մի քանի անդամներ դեռևս ՊՊԾ գնդի տարածքում են: Այնտեղ բանակցություններ են ընթանում: Մեր տեղեկություններով` ուժայինները նրանց հորդում են հանձնվել: Ավելի վաղ հայտնել էինք, որ ոստիկանության լրատվության և հասարակայնության հետ կապերի բաժնի պետ Աշոտ Ահարոնյանը փոխանցել է, որ փոխհրաձգության հետևանքով վիրավորվել են Պավել Մանուկայնն ու նրա որդին, ևս մի քանի անդամներ, ինչպես նաև մեկ ոստիկան: Նրանք տեղափոխվել են հիվանդանոց: Երկուսը, սակայն, դեռևս գնդի տարածքում են, հրաժարվում են բուժօգնությունից: Աշոտ Ահարոնյանը հայտնել է նաև, որ կրակը դադարել է: Թե ինչ կստացվի, առաջիկայում կպարզվի:

          Ամբողջական հոդվածը կարող եք կարդալ այս հասցեով՝ http://armlur.am/560718/

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          • #335
            Re: Politics in Hayastan

            Վիրավոր առյուծն առյուծ է մնում նաև վիրավոր ժամանակ
            Վիրավոր առյուծն առյուծ է մնում նաև վիրավոր ժամանակ
            http://asekose.am/hy_AM/news/8/226996-viravor-aryoucn-aryouc-e-mnoum-nae-viravor-jamanak.html
            Վիրավոր առյուծն առյուծ է մնում նաև վիրավոր ժամանակ

            2016-07-27
            02:53:18

            «Պավլիկին ոչ թուրքն է ընկճել, ոչ էլ հայ ոստիկանը կկարողանա ընկճել: Վիրավոր առիւծը առիւծ է մնում նաեւ վիրավոր ժամանակ»,-գրել է Հիմնադիր Խորհրդարանի նախագահ,այս պահին ընդհատակում գտնվող Գարեգին Չուքասզյանն` անդրադառնալով ՊՊԾ գնդից ստացված վերջին լուրերին։

            Հիշեցնենք, որ ոստիկանության լրատվության վարչության ներկայացուցիչները հայտնում են, որ «Սասնա ծռեր» զինված խմբավորման անդամներ Պավել Մանուկյանի և նրա որդու՝ Արամի կյանքին վտանգ չի սպառնում:

            Ավելի վաղ ոստիկանության մամուլի քարտուղար Աշոտ Ահարոնյանը հայտնել էր, որ ՊՊԾ գնդի տարածքում իրավապահներին են հանձնվել զինված խմբի անդամներ Գագիկ Եղիազարյանն ու Արամ Հակոբյանը:

            Տեղի է ունեցել փոխհրաձգություն, որի հետևանքով վիրավորվել է իրավապահներից մեկը, ինչպես նաև Պավել Մանուկյանն ու նրա որդի Արամը:

            Երեքն էլ անմիջապես տեղափոխվել են հիվանդանոց:

            Այս պահին հրաձգությունը դադարել է և ընթանում են բանակցություններ՝ զինված անձանց հանձնվելու գործընթացը ավարտին հասցնելու համար:

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            • #336
              Re: Politics in Hayastan

              Originally posted by Hakob View Post
              Was it Armenian police or Russian ALFA?
              Russian Alpha? Why would Russia get involved and risk inflaming the situation further. Armenian SWAT is probably better trained and equipped than our special forces. They are the last line of deffense for the Serj regime, I'm sure no effort or dollar was spared. Also, they're for the most part ex SF anyways.

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              • #337
                Re: Politics in Hayastan

                Originally posted by gokorik View Post
                Russian Alpha? Why would Russia get involved and risk inflaming the situation further. Armenian SWAT is probably better trained and equipped than our special forces. They are the last line of deffense for the Serj regime, I'm sure no effort or dollar was spared. Also, they're for the most part ex SF anyways.

                Although I do not know which force was involved, there are many reasons why Russian forces could be the best option for Serge Sarkissyan’s purposes.

                Firstly the reason Serge Sarkissyan wants to stay in power is not because of his love for the country or
                he has many programs running for the betterment of the country but because its just too lucrative to let go even
                against the wishes of the people or their suffering.

                Same applies if it involves the elimination of 2 – 3 dozen azadamardig.

                Why Russian (special) forces?
                Because they wouldn’t have the slightest compunction in killing a few dozen Armenians as part of a “job”. No emotion, no traceability.

                During their operation the would not wave the Russian flag nor would they visibly be recognisable as Russian since they would be hooded and will have the space all to their own.

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                Politics is not about the pursuit of morality nor what's right or wrong
                Its about self interest at personal and national level often at odds with the above.
                Great politicians pursue the National interest and small politicians personal interests

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                • #338
                  Re: Politics in Hayastan

                  Originally posted by londontsi View Post
                  Although I do not know which force was involved, there are many reasons why Russian forces could be the best option for Serge Sarkissyan’s purposes.

                  Firstly the reason Serge Sarkissyan wants to stay in power is not because of his love for the country or
                  he has many programs running for the betterment of the country but because its just too lucrative to let go even
                  against the wishes of the people or their suffering.

                  Same applies if it involves the elimination of 2 – 3 dozen azadamardig.

                  Why Russian (special) forces?
                  Because they wouldn’t have the slightest compunction in killing a few dozen Armenians as part of a “job”. No emotion, no traceability.

                  During their operation the would not wave the Russian flag nor would they visibly be recognisable as Russian since they would be hooded and will have the space all to their own.

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                  I completely agree with you first point, but your second point not so much. I doubt Armenian SWAT would have any hesitation in killing their own. Especially if they are threatening regime change. ( which threatens there position of power and their salary.) Traceability? This isnt a clandestine op. Its all over the news. If many of the russian alpha members are killed it become difficult in hiding it. Example Ukraine.

                  Point 3: Of course they wouldn't wear russian markings if they were attacking. I'm not saying they can't be there. I'm saying I doubt there going to be leading the charge or manning front line positions. Why risk an international debacle unnecessarily? The Russians are not stupid. They're much more calculated then western media would lead you to belive. For example, not over reacting to the SU-24 downing by Turkey. Not invading all of Ukraine after maidan.

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                  • #339
                    Re: Politics in Hayastan



                    Details of how Pavlig and his son were wounded, ..... seriously

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                    Politics is not about the pursuit of morality nor what's right or wrong
                    Its about self interest at personal and national level often at odds with the above.
                    Great politicians pursue the National interest and small politicians personal interests

                    Comment

                    • #340
                      Re: Politics in Hayastan

                      Originally posted by gokorik View Post
                      Russian Alpha? Why would Russia get involved and risk inflaming the situation further. Armenian SWAT is probably better trained and equipped than our special forces. They are the last line of deffense for the Serj regime, I'm sure no effort or dollar was spared. Also, they're for the most part ex SF anyways.


                      There were reports of Russian ALFA group landing in Zvartnots a fiew days ago. Why would they come to Armenia? Their involvement I am assuming could be as a part of CSTO or EEU security agreements. Last years we have seen this group getting involved in central Asian countries in suppressing revolts.
                      Also I believe that Armenian police would not be very enthusiastic in killing several Artsakh heroes.

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