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Politics in Hayastan

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  • Hakob
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    Re: Politics in Hayastan

    Originally posted by londontsi View Post


    This is the futere.

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    He even does not feel the need to answer on his offshore accounts of stolen money. Talks only about how he successfully campaigned and won for party(HHK). How they all are vigorous and active in new parliament and are going to work as their party candidates on "party platform". So HHK by its candidates and member figures proves beyond any doubt that it is a party of thieves and burocrates.
    Just like the communist party was.
    "Party is great, party is absolute", if someone does according to party then he is good and clean and moral.
    Most of HHK deputates are on and off government office holders where they robbed and stole from their country. But hey, they just got elected by the cleanest elections ever. So all the issues are closed. Those corrupt figures just got a clean bill to continue their careers.
    They are proud of the votes they won, their image and party.
    F u c ki n sons of communists.
    In any healthy society this figures should have been behind bars. Not newly elected "parliamentarians".
    Parliament of who? Armenian people? Or party of thieves?
    The 40 thieves (less Ali baba).
    Last edited by Hakob; 05-06-2017, 08:14 AM.

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  • Zeytun
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    Re: Politics in Hayastan

    We should mention the role of dashnak that is legitimizing serjik's government for years now. The ruling party main benefit from their coalition with dashnak is to mute the diaspora, most of the diasporian newspapers, websites and organizations are run or linked to the ARF.

    How do you expect change when you have a corrupt civil servant with offshore accounts becoming an MP on the party of our Prime minister.
    " His party is corrupt but he is not" that doesn't exist.

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  • londontsi
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    Re: Politics in Hayastan

    Originally posted by DieHard69 View Post
    To clarify, I'm not saying our government is fully corrupt, ....
    And I am saying it is fully corrupt.

    Look at the process of the elections.
    Ounce the parliament is usurped there is nothing Serge Sargissyan cannot do.

    As I mentioned thanks to our free press it cannot be suppressed.
    I might also add friend and relations living in Armenia as a source information.

    The concern has to be how it affects the country image, diaspora confidence, inward investment etc etc.

    When somebody who lives in hayrenik and cannot feel all this .... to me shows lack of understanding what makes a healthy and progressive country.
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  • DieHard69
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    Re: Politics in Hayastan

    Originally posted by londontsi View Post
    Armenia has some institutions which I would classify as among the best considering the circumstances it lives and survives in.

    Specifically for my argument,
    High-quality internet,
    Free press
    Freedom of speech.

    Also due to the monopolizing of the airwaves by the ruling elite, most of the independent media has been pushed to “YouTube”, “Facebook” etc
    This has had the opposite to the desired effect where they thrive.
    News items through YouTube have the advantage of focusing on specific issues coupled with being available on demand.

    The fact that this multimedia is available to both Armenians residing in the hayrenik as well as diaspora, very difficult to suppress the truth.

    I know I am stating the obvious so far.

    If you are interested in the current events and generally in the future of our hayrenik you would not have come to the conclusion you seem to have arrived.
    Unless you also suffer from the same sarcasm that the ruling clique does.

    PS Rules of this forum do not allow me to make a harsher reaction that I think you deserved Axper.
    To clarify, I'm not saying our government is fully corrupt, as you stated we have some of the finest press ETC in the Caucasus or the rest of the EX soviet states, it just gets numb and typical for our government and the rest of the world to lie to people just like Trump did in the 2016 election, MAKE MURICA 3RD WORLD AGAIN.

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  • londontsi
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    Re: Politics in Hayastan



    This is the futere.

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  • londontsi
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    Re: Politics in Hayastan

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    Some interesting details of the political undercurrents.

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    Last edited by londontsi; 05-06-2017, 12:32 AM.

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  • Hakob
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    Re: Politics in Hayastan

    Stop throwing mud at each other.
    Here we got two guys, one believes change is happening, the other not.
    I am one of you.
    For the believers, talk about what has changed. What is happening that will change things?
    Is one man's words and promises enough to change?
    Isn't he a front man to buy time? Wasn't his appearance a damage controll after last July? How much has he done , what?
    How long will he stay and what will we believe on after Serj reshuffles to final shape after 2018?
    What has changed in new parliament after elections?
    For me this parliament looks probably the worst in history of independence.
    All the oligarkhs and figures that are offshore millions owners are legitimate now. Nobody can point to any fraud inelections.
    They are 100% in controll of the sistem now.
    Now what?
    We shall see right?
    Let's put aside wishful thinking and start bringing facts and articles of sociopolitical happenings in Armenia. Good or bad. Let's seek facts and discuss until we come to understanding and firm conclusions.
    This forum will become a platform of influence on public opinion, once most of us come to conclusions. Not by beliefs (we may as well try to present each other buckets of sand to put our heads) but what we see is happening.
    Too early to tell? Fine.
    I am a skeptic. But nobody can deny real facts.
    Last edited by Hakob; 05-05-2017, 07:27 PM.

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  • londontsi
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    Re: Politics in Hayastan

    After nearly 3000 postings over 8 years you only see me as somebody biching from the sidelines tells more about your intellectual ability than mine.

    I wish you had reacted to my statements than about me.

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  • HyeSocialist
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    Re: Politics in Hayastan

    Originally posted by londontsi View Post
    If I intend to buy a car or a house (or anything else), I would declare my intensions to the interested parties.
    After a reasonable time, those interested parties have the right to ask what happened to my declared intentions.

    Politicians are no different.
    They declare their intentions. After a reasonable time interested parties have the right to ask where is your promise.

    Here is where I find your statements illogical.

    If a politician said things will get better, believing citizens would echo the politicians statement.

    I would not find there anything wrong.
    I would compare with my own views, respect your views whether I agree or not.

    What I find illogical is the fact that your illustrious leader has said nothing of the sort.

    You are making things up and putting words in his mouth.
    Now that is illogical .
    That is what I am highlighting.

    PS Just for the record apparently there have been four life attempts against your illustrious leader who has NOT said things will get better.
    On the contrary his appointed temporary Prime Minister has said THINGS ARE DIRE ….. VERY DIRE.
    So please do not write your fantasies here.
    In all honesty, I too truly read your statements with a grain of salt. Mostly because I have no idea where you stand on any issue. People who stand in the sidelines and b*tch.

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  • londontsi
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    Re: Politics in Hayastan

    Originally posted by HyeSocialist View Post
    Don't be super critical, man. It's going to get better.

    If I intend to buy a car or a house (or anything else), I would declare my intensions to the interested parties.
    After a reasonable time, those interested parties have the right to ask what happened to my declared intentions.

    Politicians are no different.
    They declare their intentions. After a reasonable time interested parties have the right to ask where is your promise.

    Here is where I find your statements illogical.

    If a politician said things will get better, believing citizens would echo the politicians statement.

    I would not find there anything wrong.
    I would compare with my own views, respect your views whether I agree or not.

    What I find illogical is the fact that your illustrious leader has said nothing of the sort.

    You are making things up and putting words in his mouth.
    Now that is illogical .
    That is what I am highlighting.

    PS Just for the record apparently there have been four life attempts against your illustrious leader who has NOT said things will get better.
    On the contrary his appointed temporary Prime Minister has said THINGS ARE DIRE ….. VERY DIRE.
    So please do not write your fantasies here.
    Last edited by londontsi; 05-05-2017, 02:14 PM.

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