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Iraq... an Armenian view.

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  • Originally posted by Baron Dants
    lol, I sensed more sarcasm than fake modesty there.
    I never do sarcasme on the forum, I was really sincere. I challenge you to find one single post where I was sarcastic...exept about the UN...

    (eheh , as I'm a post xxxxx, you'll have a lot of messages to go trough)

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    • Originally posted by !EEK
      I never do sarcasme on the forum, I was really sincere. I challenge you to find one single post where I was sarcastic...exept about the UN...

      (eheh , as I'm a post xxxxx, you'll have a lot of messages to go trough)
      Um, I'll just give you the benefit of the doubt instead of looking through all your posts.

      Now back on topic, the war in Iraq was wrong, Armenia shouldn't have joined but might gain some political favors by doing so, and Armenia will be around longer than any of us!

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      • Originally posted by !EEK
        It isn't middle age anymore. Quick wars can't bring down a whole nation anymore. We have Nato, the UN (which was great at avoiding war in Iraq ).
        NATO is not going to help out anyone that wont help it. The UN may give money to charities but it acts more like a mercenary than anything else. It tries to create only one mind set for the world.

        Originally posted by !EEK
        Besides, there was an armenian who said (Dants, maybe you could tell it beter ) something like:

        "Send them into the desert, without bread and water, and then see if they won't sing, dance again and create a new Armenia".....am I right?
        Saroyan said this. He was refering to Armenian people not Armenia. Armenians can create an Armenia anywhere, not a country, but a community like "Little Armenia".

        What question did you want me to answer?

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        • I was talking to Dants...but Dants wanted you to tell what are the other countires that might disappear in twenty years....he was pretty amazed by your aptitude to tell the future.

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          • Originally posted by !EEK
            I was talking to Dants...but Dants wanted you to tell what are the other countires that might disappear in twenty years....he was pretty amazed by your aptitude to tell the future.
            Like we said, how many countries have disappeared in the past 20 years? Technically, a lot, but there's a difference. The USSR disappeared for example, but it wasn't a real country but a union of a bunch of half-independent republics anyway, that wasn't a huge change like you are predicting. Besides that one the only other one that comes to mind is Yugoslavia, but once again that is a case of a country made up of lots of different groups dismembering into independent states for the various groups. That is certainly always possible, especially for a country like Iraq it makes sense. What you are forcasting though is the complete disappearance of Armenia as a nation within two decades, something I can't imagine happening to a single country anywhere in the world. Why is this so immenent for Armenia while it is certainly not the worst off country in the world. You would think if Armenia's problems are the reason for its disappearance, then all other countries worse off than it would disppear first.
            Also you have no faith in the diaspora. Am I the only one proud that, despite all it's problems (what community doesn't have them?), the Armenian diaspora has got to be one of the most supportive of its country-countpart of any in the world. The only one obviously more supportive is the Jews for Israel, but there are lot more of them and they are all in powerful positions and basically control the US government. Meanwhile look what Armenians have been able to accomplish despite the US basically working against them. We just won't let our nation that was dreamed of for such a long time fall apart within two decades.

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            • hayq you are on my official mollywhopping list. your immature unthought out pessimistic xxxx really pisses me off. you are so wrong and so uneducated on so many different areas that it would be useless and a huge waste of time to even try to respond to any of your statements. you should simply be banned from any forum here that doesnt have to do with music/flirting/being retarded. armenian politics is definately a no no for you.

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              • ok. If you think that Armenia, as of now, has some kind of potential, you are out of your mind. That does not mean it can not become a good country in the future, I meant if trends continue as they are today, Armenia would be smaller and weaker to the point where it will cease to have any voice because of lack of military and economy (if you dont have a voice, you do not exist).

                Other countries, I would say the Baltic people might disappear soon. Heavy Russian influence.

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                • Originally posted by TigranJamharian
                  hayq you are on my official mollywhopping list. your immature unthought out pessimistic xxxx really pisses me off. you are so wrong and so uneducated on so many different areas that it would be useless and a huge waste of time to even try to respond to any of your statements. you should simply be banned from any forum here that doesnt have to do with music/flirting/being retarded. armenian politics is definately a no no for you.
                  Try to respond then, if I am so stupid you should be able to mollywhop me easily.

                  Armenian Politics? POLITICS ARE FILTH! No good person would ever get involved with such filth.

                  I'll be waiting for you.

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                  • Originally posted by Hayq
                    ok. If you think that Armenia, as of now, has some kind of potential, you are out of your mind. That does not mean it can not become a good country in the future, I meant if trends continue as they are today, Armenia would be smaller and weaker to the point where it will cease to have any voice because of lack of military and economy (if you dont have a voice, you do not exist).

                    Other countries, I would say the Baltic people might disappear soon. Heavy Russian influence.
                    Lack of military?! We fended off Azerbaijan that had the support of Turkey, US, and most of the Islamic world didn't we?! How are we militarily insignificant?! (On the world stage, sure it's insignificant, but compared to countries in similar positions its probably above average. It's certainly better than its much larger neighbor Azer.) Also based on current trends in the world community, I would say Armenia is slightly going up rather than down. It's pretty apparant the world is starting to support us with Karabakh for example. You seem to be measuring Armenia's existence based on how much power it has on the world stage. There are 190+ countries and only a handful have real power! Why are you predicting the downfall of Armenia for not being one of these??? Don't forget that when it comes to ethnic lobbies (in the US at least), Armenia is number 2. Considering its size, that is unheard of!

                    Also I thought at least two out of the three in the Baltic trio were doing quite well. I certainly am no expert, but seeing as they were admitted into the EU they can't be THAT heavily Russian-influenced. When it comes to CIS states, Belarus is the number 1 state up for Russian absorbtion, not the Baltics.

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                    • Originally posted by Hayq
                      Try to respond then, if I am so stupid you should be able to mollywhop me easily.

                      Armenian Politics? POLITICS ARE FILTH! No good person would ever get involved with such filth.

                      I'll be waiting for you.
                      hayq we are in the ARMENIAN POLITICS forum if you havent realized that yet. dont get too excited, just take a couple of deep breaths into the paper bag, everything will be fine soon. Mommy is coming with the needle.

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