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  • #11
    Originally posted by skhara
    Azeris are ethnically Iranian but speak a turkic language. Iran is mindful of the Turkish influence and has part of its national agenda to 'Persify' the Azeris.
    I am not exactly sure what an "ethnic Iranian" is, aside from those ethnic groups having origin in modern-day Iran. As someone said, Azeris are a mixed-bag of many influences, with a common culture and language.

    The Azeri population of Iran is 20-50%, but nobody really knows due to the Persification... even Khamenei is either full Azeri or half.

    And no, Iranian Azeris don't have at all the same mindset as their northern counterparts, for lots of reasons, probably most prominent of which is the position of Tehran with regards to Armenia.

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    • #12
      Azeris are Iranian, ethnically, genetically, culturally, historically. They have only been turkified forcefully in the years of Turkish and Mongol occupation. They do not look like mongols.

      The republic of Azerbaijan's real name is Arran. The Pan-turkists of Arran with help of racists chauvinists of Turkey changed the historical name of the land and its poeple to serve their own interests, to annex the REAL Azerbaijan, which is the Iranian Azerbaijan.

      Please visit this, it talks about the Grey Wolves who are also working actively against Armenians:

      PAN-TURANIANISM TAKES AIM AT AZERBAIJAN: A Geopolitical Agenda

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      • #13
        New conspiracy theories? I like your this habbit.
        Well, I agree that Azerbaijan Azeris and Iran Azeris are a bit different, but not that much. And Most of Iran Azeris do not offended if one call them as Turks. How can it be when they speak Turkish? I have been to Iran and travelled at most of the country. From Turkey-Iran border to Tehran I just speak Turkish with people. I don't have information about your genetical theories but they speak Turkish and they resemble Turks. People were very friendly when I said I came from Turkey.
        Of course Turkey have no "pan-Turkic" dreams, another obsession f yours from WW1.
        I admit that Turks in Turkey, in Azerbaijan, in Iran, Iraq, Bulgaria, Greece, Macedonia, Bosnia,etc. are all different people. We can communicate with the same language and have similiar cultures, but thats all. It is not only a dream to unite Turks of Balkan with central asia, but also it is a stupd and unnecessary dream. After thousands of years all those people created a unique culture among themselves.
        But in any case, I am sorry for you that only "ally of Armenia" in the world is a country which have a large Turkish speaking community.

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        • #14
          Azeris are not turks, they are Iranian. Speaking turkish doesnt mean they are turk by ethinicity. They have no turkish character, they are iranian, the most patriotic of all iranians are Azeris, and one of the most pure iranians of aryans are Azeris.

          I know this is hard to hear because your government has been brainwashing people of Turkey with "Turan" and "Sun" theory crap, but when introduced to reality you people freak out. not your fault though.

          Azeris are by no way mongols nor Turks, they are Iranian to the full. EVEN people of Azerbaijan are of Iranian origin. Pan-turkism is an evil ideology much like nazism. People of azerbaijan are not Tatars, not descendents of "Oghuz".

          This should be clear to all, this is the biggest crime against human history and iranian peoples, racist fascists stole our heritage for their own, turning them against our traditional friends, the armenians. ARRAN THE REAL NAME OF AZERBAIJAN REPUBLIC. ARRANI THE REAL NAME OF PEOPLE OF REPUBLIC OF AZERBAIJAN.

          Stop pan-turkism now.

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          • #15
            Originally posted by Iranian
            Azeris are not turks, they are Iranian. Speaking turkish doesnt mean they are turk by ethinicity. They have no turkish character, they are iranian, the most patriotic of all iranians are Azeris, and one of the most pure iranians of aryans are Azeris.

            I know this is hard to hear because your government has been brainwashing people of Turkey with "Turan" and "Sun" theory crap, but when introduced to reality you people freak out. not your fault though.

            Azeris are by no way mongols nor Turks, they are Iranian to the full. EVEN people of Azerbaijan are of Iranian origin. Pan-turkism is an evil ideology much like nazism. People of azerbaijan are not Tatars, not descendents of "Oghuz".

            This should be clear to all, this is the biggest crime against human history and iranian peoples, racist fascists stole our heritage for their own, turning them against our traditional friends, the armenians. ARRAN THE REAL NAME OF AZERBAIJAN REPUBLIC. ARRANI THE REAL NAME OF PEOPLE OF REPUBLIC OF AZERBAIJAN.

            Stop pan-turkism now.
            What pan-turkism, what sun theory, what turan? you don't know what you are talking about. parrot same stereotypes like your friends here. "braniwashed people of Turkey, evil Turks, etc." Is this forum consist of teens only, or do you really believe your own stereotypic lies?

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            • #16
              Originally posted by Dave
              Azeris for 24% of the total Iranian population of approximately 70 million. Persians for only 51% of the population of their own country.

              The Azeris of Iran aren't like Azerbaijanis. Azerbaijan uses a modified version of latin but the Azeris of Iran use the arabic alphabet. I've heard that they do not hate Armenians as much as Azerbaijanis do. They probably have a different mentality. iAfter all, some Armenians live in the Azeri provinces of Iran.

              I don't think any of these minorities will have a chance for independance. I'm sure they won't support the American invasion either. Just look at the Kurds. They supported America in exchange for Kurdistan, but the US would rather see Iraq united. I'm sure it will be the same in Iran, if the US succeeds, or course.

              And if you look at this map: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran#Demographics (apparently all these ethnic groups are ''culturally related'')
              It shows us that the Azerbaijani provinces of Iran are separated from Turkey by Kurdish inhabited region. If Turks turn back to their old pan-turanist racist ideologies, the Kurds, the Iranians, and WE won't remain silent.

              btw some Turks say that Azeris are more related to Iranians, because Azeris are Shiite (like Persians) and Turks are Sunni.

              Oh, and Sibel Edmonds is an Iranian Azeri.
              It is good to see some armenians Know there politics and i wish more armenians where involved in there own politics im not going to argue with the posted comments that azeris are more like iranians but i feel and from what i know azeris in iran and in the region south of Nachichevan they may not be a threat to Armenians but let me tell you the iranians utterly hate them and they do pose a threat to iran. For your information those azeris wanted to cross the border to nachichevan and help the azeris in the karabagh war to start a war on two fronts. But i hope what you say is true.

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              • #17
                Iranians dont hate azeris, Azeris are iranians, why would iranians hate themselves. Dont confuse people of azerbaijan with people of Iranian azerbaijan. they have totally different mentalities, people of azerbaijan suffer from huge identity crisis. They have been brainwashed into thinking they are mongoloid people, but they are not.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by Iranian
                  Iranians dont hate azeris, Azeris are iranians, why would iranians hate themselves. Dont confuse people of azerbaijan with people of Iranian azerbaijan. they have totally different mentalities, people of azerbaijan suffer from huge identity crisis. They have been brainwashed into thinking they are mongoloid people, but they are not.
                  Do you live in Iran?

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                  • #19
                    Re: Azeris in Iran

                    Originally posted by Masis
                    It is good to see some armenians Know there politics and i wish more armenians where involved in there own politics im not going to argue with the posted comments that azeris are more like iranians but i feel and from what i know azeris in iran and in the region south of Nachichevan they may not be a threat to Armenians but let me tell you the iranians utterly hate them and they do pose a threat to iran. For your information those azeris wanted to cross the border to nachichevan and help the azeris in the karabagh war to start a war on two fronts. But i hope what you say is true.
                    I have to agree with you. The Alliance of Persians and Azeris in Iran have been destroyed by the Islamic Republic of Iran regime. Azeris are hated in Iran. And Azeris are turks. They are not related to Persians or Iranians in terms of Anthropology. They have adopted the language from Persians. But culturally and ethnically they are turks.

                    You can see the reasons here
                    The Policy of Turkification of Iran


                    More information on my forum here:
                    Afghan Forum


                    Also the US strike against Iran will create a new geopolitical situation in the region. You can that from this Pan-Turkist Map
                    Persians and Hollywood
                    http://oslonor.blogspot.com

                    A Google Blog

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                    • #20
                      Excuse me Cumanicus, but you Turks have less allies than we Iranians...even you yourselves have a saying, "Turkun Turkden bashka dostu yoktur" and Azeris have a similar one, "Azerilerin ozunden bashqa dostu yoxdur". On one hand the Armenians whose Genocide you refuse to recognize (and you have not been able to pressure Armenia into recognizing the Treaty of Kars either), the other hand the Greeks, with your disputes over Aegean as well as the Cyprus problem, Arabs who don't like you because of your support of Israel and the fact that Syria considers your Hatay province part of Syria, the other hand the Kurds and the PKK which have kept you quite busy, the Assyrians of Mardin and south Turkey who do not like the fact that you have forced Turkishness on them...looks like you have more on your plate than Iran.

                      Oslonor, your webblog introduces you as a Norwegian married to an Iranian living in Los Angeles hence your name Oslonor (short for Oslo, Norway) and now you are saying you are Persian and know more about Iranian demographics than we Iranians...for your information Ahmad Kasravi, (well respected author), himself an Azerbaijani, has said that Azeris are Iranians...not only are you denying a fact, Oslonor, you are strengthening the hand of Iranian Azeri separatists and secessionists by giving them a reason to separate themselves from us...now I believe there has been Turkic contribution to the gene pool of these indigenous Iranians, and that they are a mix of Iranian and Turkic due to the Turkic invasions...but I think I would know more about my country than a Nordic gentleman from Scandinavia.

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