Azeris in Iran

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It depends how you mean. Alot of people call us turks, sometimes we too. Azeris aren't anatolian turks, but we are a turkic speaking people. If turk means anatolian, then, no we are not turks. If it means someone who speaks a turkic language, then yes. Panturks consider all turkic speaking peoples turks, from balkans to siberia. But our languages doesn't even have to bee similiar. It's the same kind of relationship the indo-europeans have, from norway to india ...

Well, in that case, when I said Turks, I meant all Turks starting from the Ottoman Empire.

[Iranianazeri]

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Well, in that case, when I said Turks, I meant all Turks starting from the Ottoman Empire.

Starting from ottoman empire? The azeris aren't ottoman, but you mean all? Even siberian turkic peoples that probably, in general, don't know anything about ottoman or armenian history and not even heard about the genocide?

[Էլիա]

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Starting from ottoman empire? The azeris aren't ottoman, but you mean all? Even siberian turkic peoples that probably, in general, don't know anything about ottoman or armenian history and not even heard about the genocide?

I mean all Turks that were in the Ottoman Empire and are descendants of the Ottoman Empire... I don't know about siberian turks...

[Iranianazeri]

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I mean all Turks that were in the Ottoman Empire and are descendants of the Ottoman Empire... I don't know about siberian turks...

Ok, good because the rest of us didn't have anything to do with it

[Էլիա]

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Ok, good because the rest of us didn't have anything to do with it

Ya, don't worry, you guys weren't with the Ottomans...

[skhara]

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Starting from ottoman empire? The azeris aren't ottoman, but you mean all? Even siberian turkic peoples that probably, in general, don't know anything about ottoman or armenian history and not even heard about the genocide?

I'm not sure all those calling themselves Azeris could be considered a Caucasian people. In Azerbaijan I always considered the population a mix of Caucasian and Iranian ethnos, with a minority of very turkic-like peoples.

Do you consider yourself part of the Iranian group of peoples? There are many different Iranian peoples. Persians are just one of them.

[Էլիա]

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I'm not sure all those calling themselves Azeris could be considered a Caucasian people. In Azerbaijan I always considered the population a mix of Caucasian and Iranian ethnos, with a minority of very turkic-like peoples.

Do you consider yourself part of the Iranian group of peoples? There are many different Iranian peoples. Persians are just one of them.

I've always been confused about the difference between Iranians and Persians...

[Iranianazeri]

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I'm not sure all those calling themselves Azeris could be considered a Caucasian people. In Azerbaijan I always considered the population a mix of Caucasian and Iranian ethnos, with a minority of very turkic-like peoples.

The further north you go the people are more caucasian. In the republic of azerbaijan they are very similar to armenians and gerogians and so on which genetical testings has shown us. The iranian azeris are something between cacuasians and persians I would say.

Do you consider yourself part of the Iranian group of peoples? There are many different Iranian peoples. Persians are just one of them.

It depends how you mean iranian group. The azeris of iran speak a turkic language (although persian too). We are a mix of caucasian, iranian and centralasian turks. The persians consider us "turcified" iranians. I consider the azeris just as a unique and local people and the descendants of all those local peoples who lived there.

[Էլիա]

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Iranianazeri, please answer my question in my last post.

[ArmSurvival]

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I've always been confused about the difference between Iranians and Persians

Iranian refers to a linguistic group, which has a common ethnography and customs/traditions/history. Persians are a sub-group of Iranians, mainly because Farsi is an Iranian language, but also because of their geographic location and history. Other Iranian groups include Kurds, Tajiks, and many groups in Iran such as Mazandaranis (south coast of the Caspian Sea), Balochs (southeast Iran), Lurs and Quashqai (west and southwestern Iran), and Ossetians (northern Georgia/southern Russia). There are more Iranian groups inside and outside Iran though.

Ancient Iranian groups include Scythians and Sarmatians. It is important to note, that all Iranians (including Persians) have called their country "Iran" for thousands of years. The rest of the world called it "Persia".

Maybe Iranianazeri can give you more information, or correct any errors I might have made.