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  • arakeretzig
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    Originally posted by Mos View Post

    that's some big ass flags there

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  • Mos
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    Originally posted by Serjik View Post
    Cool pics bro! Iam glad Armos are pro Russians here in this blog. But I still worry sometime. Don't like Russians hate Caucasus people and they call them all black asses, what if one day they turn on us and treat us the same Cherchens and Muslims? They are Armenia's only friends what would we do when they turn on us where can we turn to?
    They hate Azeris, Central Asians, and especially Chechens more. Chechens because of how many russians Chechens have killed. They also recently have started hating Georgians for obvious reasons. Armenians compared to these group are relatively well respected and liked. A few fascist nut cases should be used to generalise for a whole people.

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  • Serjik
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    Cool pics bro! Iam glad Armos are pro Russians here in this blog. But I still worry sometime. Don't like Russians hate Caucasus people and they call them all black asses, what if one day they turn on us and treat us the same Cherchens and Muslims? They are Armenia's only friends what would we do when they turn on us where can we turn to?

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  • Mos
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    Some Photos from Pres. Sargisyan's trip to Moscow: (must say the Presidential palace is beautiful)




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  • Tigranakert
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    Transcript of the beginning of the meeting:



    Vladimir Putin:
    Mr Sargsyan, dear colleagues, I am very pleased to see you at our extended meeting today.
    To begin, I would like to say that according to our estimates, our economic relations have been developing quite well. Bilateral trade increased by about 18% last year and by about 15% during the first six months of this year, meaning we have kept up the pace, and not a bad pace at that.
    I want to emphasise that Russian (cumulative) investments in the Armenian economy have been increasing. I just had a meeting with my counterpart from Moldova, where we have just $200 million in (cumulative) investments. The equivalent figure for Armenia is almost $3 billion ($2.8 billion). Overall, we have been working quite well.
    Currently, we are working on improving our transport infrastructure. After Russian Railways was granted a concession of Armenian Railways, investments in the development of Armenian railway networks have reached about five billion roubles. I know that they have a rather effective development programme, and this programme will be executed. Russian Railways plans to be actively involved in that area. One of its affiliate companies is currently active there, and will continue working in that direction.
    As you know, on March 1 this year we opened the Verkhny Lars border crossing between Russia and Georgia. This was done, among other reasons, at the request of Armenia in order to establish a normal transportation link. We are aware of the plans to build a north-south railway and of the requests you have filed to receive funding from the Investment Fund. But first, we need to evaluate the efficiency of the project in economic terms. We are both aware of the issue and have also discussed it with the president. We will consider this project and together, we will make the necessary economic calculations.
    Our relations in the field of energy are quite efficient and diversified, I would say. These include both nuclear energy and hydrocarbons. Considering the special nature of this relationship, Gazprom meets our Armenian partners halfway in many aspects of our cooperation. I believe we have already provided around 1.06 billion [cu m], and will supply an additional 1.6 billion by the end of the year. There can be no doubt that these volumes have been contracted, that they will be provided and that Armenia will be fully supplied with gas. In general, our relations have been developing. I am very pleased to see you here. Welcome!

    Tigran Sagsyan:
    Thank you very much, Mr Putin. For my part, I would like to add that in the last two years, the economy has been emerging from the crisis and has been showing more robust economic growth, which is very promising. And Russian companies feel quite comfortable in Armenia. There are over 1,200 companies with Russian capital in Armenia, and their growth rates are quite satisfactory.
    Despite the overall economic growth of 2% last year (and the industrial growth of 14%), agricultural production declined. This year, we expect a 5% growth rate with an inflation rate of about 5%. In general, economic relations between Russia and Armenia have been growing dynamically. In fact, exports of Russian companies in Armenia have been increasing, about which we are very pleased. Major Russian investment projects have been showing significant rates of return recently, which is also very important for us.
    In general, I want to emphasise that all joint projects implemented in Armenia have been successful, and there have been essentially no failures. Of course, the implementation timelines of some projects have had to be adjusted because of the crisis, but all of them are still valid. I also want to thank our Russian colleagues and you personally, Mr Putin, for the $500 million that you provided to Armenia during the crisis. These funds proved to be very useful in helping us to address the consequences of the economic downturn.

    Vladimir Putin:
    In 2009, correct? That was the most critical moment.

    Tigran Sargsyan:
    Yes, exactly. We set aside $250 million for the reconstruction efforts in the area affected by the earthquake. This was in essence a substantial social programme. It stimulated growth as the funds were invested in construction projects, and at the same time it also had a significant social aspect, as it allowed people to move from barracks and trailers into new apartments.
    The remaining $250 million was invested in infrastructure projects and in financing the economy. We helped companies that experienced temporary difficulties, and that made a huge difference for them. Thank you very much for your assistance.

    Vladimir Putin:
    Please, let’s delve in more detail into specific areas.

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  • Serjik
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    Guys Serj met with Putin today! I wonder what they discussed.

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  • Haykakan
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    RUSSIA DEVELOPS NEW LONG-RANGE MOBILE RADAR

    Tert.am
    19:01 17.10.11

    Russian scientists have developed and tested a new mobile radar
    which will soon become part of the country's aerospace defense,
    RIA Novosti reported.

    The new radar, dubbed 55Zh6ME, is capable of detecting targets at the
    distance of up to 1,800 kilometers and an altitude of up to 1,200 km.

    "The radar has been developed forΥ‘ the Russian Armed Forces,
    especially for aerospace defense," a spokesman for the Nizhniy Novgorod
    Research Institute of Radio Engineering (NNIIRT) said on Monday.

    "The deliveries of the first batch of new radars to the [Russian]
    military are expected soon," the official said, adding that the
    product has strong export potential.

    Russia is planning to set up a unified strategic aerospace defense
    command that would integrate existing air defense and missile defense
    networks, early warning systems and aerospace monitoring systems.

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  • Vrej1915
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    Карсский договор - это прошлое и настоящее
    90 лет назад, 13 октября 1921 года, при посредничестве большевистской России в Карсе был подписан Договор о дружбе между тремя советскими закавказскими республиками, с одной стороны, и кемалистской Турцией – с другой.

    Этот акт подтвердил статус Нахиджевана, оговоренный ранее в Московском договоре. Напомним, что 16 марта того же года РСФСР и Турция заключили в Москве Договор о дружбе и братстве, согласно которому (кроме всего прочего), "Нахичеванская область образует автономную территорию под покровительством Азербайджана при условии, что Азербайджан не уступит сего протектората никакому третьему государству".

    Чтобы выудить у большевиков гарантированный отказ от первоначального намерения передать армянам Нахиджеван, азербайджанские представители постоянно напоминали о том, что советская власть в Эривани свергнута, а на юге страны все еще сильна Антанта. В докладе полномочного представителя Азербайджана на русско-турецких переговорах Бейбута Шахтахтинского читаем: "Часть Армении, а именно Даралагез и Зангезур, остаются в руках дашнаков, сумевших связаться с Тавризом, где живут агенты Антанты. Они захватили почти всю нагорную часть Карабаха".

    В конце своего доклада Шахтахтинский предупреждает большевиков о реальной перспективе открытия Турцией мусульманского фронта против России, если только та усомнится в целесообразности принятия окончательного соглашения о передаче Нахиджевана Азербайджану: "Если соглашение не состоится, то в таком случае Анатолийское Национальное собрание тотчас же обратится к мусульманскому Востоку с заявлением о том, что революционная Турция ни в какой связи и союзе с Россией не находится и свою борьбу ведет и будет вести без всякой помощи и поддержки Советской России".

    В Московском договоре также специально подчеркивалось, что в обозримой перспективе три советские закавказские республики ратифицируют русско-турецкие договоренности в Карсе, а большевики заставят недовольных принять все пункты соглашения. "Настоящий Договор подлежит ратификации. Обмен ратификационными грамотами состоится в Карсе в возможно ближайший срок. Россия обязуется предпринять в отношении Закавказских Республик шаги, необходимые для обязательного признания этими Республиками в договорах, которые будут заключены ими с Турцией, статей настоящего Договора, непосредственно их касающихся".

    Для обеспечения (в перспективе) общей границы Азербайджана с Турцией к "Нахичеванскому краю" была присоединена от Армянской ССР (тогда республика называлась еще "ССР Армении") часть бывшего Шаруро-Даралагезского уезда. В феврале 1923 года iii Всенахичеванский съезд советов принял решение о вхождении в Азербайджанскую ССР. Решением ЦИК Советов Азербайджанской ССР от 16 июня 1923 года Нахиджеван был включен в состав Азербайджанской ССР, позже, 9 февраля 1924 года, было принято следующее постановление: "Нахичеванский край преобразовать в Нахичеванскую Социалистическую Советскую Республику под протекторатом Азербайджанской ССР". Показательно, что именно Шахтахтинский и стал первым председателем Нахичеванского революционного комитета, председателем Совета Народных комиссаров Нахичеванской Республики.

    Международные структуры, позиционирующие себя в качестве поборников справедливого урегулирования армяно-азербайджанского противостояния, почему-то игнорируют содержание докладов полномочных представителей Азербайджана на русско-турецких переговорах, в ходе которых и вычерчивались границы региона, иными словами, закладывались мины замедленного действия. Это тем более цинично, что сами акценты подобных выступлений предполагали шантаж и даже не скрывали своего ультимативного тона. Причем это касается не только выступлений 20-х годов.

    Уже много позже (в 1999 году) азербайджанский президент Гейдар Алиев признал: "Для того, чтобы сохранить и защитить статус Нахчывана, большое значение имели, в частности, Московский договор и особенно – подписанный Турецкой Республикой Карсский договор. Из-за того, что Нахчыван был отделен от основной земли Азербайджана, Карсский договор для обеспечения в будущем целостности, безопасности, государственности, автономии – очень большой, незаменимый для нас документ" ("Бакинский рабочий", 14.10.1999).



    Почему не обращается внимание на подобные выступления? Ведь именно они во многом и содержат ответы на актуальные вопросы. Тот же Гейдар Алиев, например, публично заявлял и другое: "Когда я был первым секретарем Азербайджанской ССР, то старался изменить демографию Нагорного Карабаха. Нагорный Карабах поднимал вопрос об открытии там института, вуза. У нас все возражали. Я решил открыть, и азербайджанцев из прилегающих районов мы направляли уже не в Баку, а туда. Открыли там обувную фабрику, направляли туда азербайджанцев из окружающих область мест. Этими и другими мерами я старался, чтобы в Нагорном Карабахе стало больше азербайджанцев, а число армян сократилось. Кто работал в то время в Нагорном Карабахе, знают об этом" ("Зеркало", 23.07.2002).

    Очевидно, что одного этого – озвученного "общенациональным лидером азербайджанского народа" - предложения уже было бы вполне достаточно, чтобы международные структуры (конечно, если бы они действительно работали беспристрастно и принципиально) раз и навсегда отказались вообще помышлять о перспективах предоставления Нагорному Карабаху "широкой автономии в составе Азербайджана". Тем не менее, они закрывают глаза на самое очевидное точно так же, как в свое время это умели делать большевистские переговорщики. И сегодня, 13 октября 2011 года, кажется, что Карсский договор – это не прошлое.

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  • Haykakan
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    RUSSIA'S PUTIN EXPECTS TO AGREE CHINA GAS DEAL

    Tert.am
    21:23 ~U 12.10.11

    Russia's Prime Minister Vladimir Putin (L) has confirmed Russia
    is close to sealing an energy supply agreement with China worth $1
    trillion, CNN reported.

    "It's fair to say that we're very close to reach an agreement on the
    natural gas deal," Putin told journalists at a joint press conference
    after meeting with Chinese counterpart Wen Jiabao (R).

    Putin arrived in Beijing on Tuesday for a two-day visit. He also met
    with President Hu Jintao and other Chinese leaders on Wednesday.

    The negotiations over the natural gas supply had stalled for more
    than a year due to disagreements over price.

    If an agreement can be reached, the deal would see Russia supply
    China with up to 68 billion cubic meters of gas every year.

    "The trade volume will increase significantly, and this will change
    the fact that the economic cooperation between the two countries lags
    behind the political cooperation," said Zhao Huasheng, director of
    the Center for Russia and Central Asia Studies at Fudan University.

    "Together with cooperation in other economic fields, China and Russia
    will become real strategic partners in economic terms," he added.

    Recent years have seen a steady increase in trade between the two
    countries.

    According to the Chinese Ministry of Commerce, bilateral trade volume
    in the year to July increased by 37.4% to a record $42.2 billion. The
    ministry forecasts that this will reach a new record in 2011--
    possibly in excess of $70 billion.

    "The economic and trade cooperation between the two countries has
    reached to an unprecedented level," Putin said in an interview with
    the state-run Xinhua agency.

    But energy cooperation stands out as the main focus between Russia, a
    major energy exporter, and China, the world's biggest energy consumer,
    according to a 2010 report from the International Energy Agency.

    Putin has also brought along a group of 160 Russian business leaders
    for the visit, including the CEOs of Russian energy giants Gazprom,
    Rosneft and aluminum producer UC RUSAL.

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  • Vrej1915
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    Russia's Medvedev backs Putin for president

    Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin should run for president next year, current President Dmitry Medvedev has said.

    He made the announcement at the annual congress of the ruling United Russia party.

    There have been months of speculation about which man would stand as candidate for the post.

    Mr Putin had already served two terms as president before Mr Medvedev took over in 2008.

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