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  • Re: Armenian-Turkish Relations

    Originally posted by Kanki View Post
    I give other example about "building cities"
    Look this

    second Observe Balkania!!!
    Belgrade is created by Ottoman Turks not serbs. Serbs destroyed Ottoman mosques but other Ottoman buildings are used today in Belgrade.
    In Bulgaria,Many cities named Turkish...When Ottomans occupy Bulgaria Bulgarians were containing ONLY about 200.000 tents there were not important buildings with out Roma Buildings! Ottomans created Bulgarian cities for 630 years.
    We protect all the historical buildings, If we not no greek mito. buildings would be no! You are in wrong!

    I don't know 1915 events, Because I borned in 1989. 74 years after.... and I have never killed an Armenian and my parents too.. So I am not responsible! If my government accept to your genocide. Nothing is change! Because 1915 Turkish people pass away!!

    History of belgrade, and it doesn't mean that a city has a turkish name it was founded by Turks. It only means you changed the name lol.

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    • Re: Armenian-Turkish Relations

      Originally posted by KarotheGreat View Post
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belgrade
      History of belgrade, and it doesn't mean that a city has a turkish name it was founded by Turks. It only means you changed the name lol.
      I didn't mentioned Belgrade is Turkish name..
      I mentioned in Bulgaria many cities and Town named with Turkish words.
      because when ottoman Turk went there, there were only groups of Bulgarian tent... I mentinoed this sitution.
      And If we are murder nation ,they were only 200.000 they might be destroyed or asimileta! but we didn't..Bulgarians and Turks have good relations, also they are orthodox cristians... In the other hand , polsks like us...In Istanbul, "Polenezköy" is Polsk town. But, Turk-Armenian and Turk-Greek relations are in very different sitution...Because you want your Middle Ages lands! In middle ages , World's fronts were very different, No USA, no Canada, No, Brazil, No super Russia and Russia was not in Central Asia which lands our native country and rich with petrol and gold" Say russia give land to Turks and we can get Anatolia!!! You see it is impossible and stupidly!
      Turk-Armenian relations was good until your people was provaceted by Russians in 18th . 19th centuries. Many ottoman veziers were Armenian....
      Also Anatolian Seljuks Gıyassettins wife was Armenian...
      now I analized good relations are no and impossible
      Last edited by Kanki; 12-31-2007, 03:21 AM.

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      • Re: Armenian-Turkish Relations

        Originally posted by Kanki View Post
        I didn't mentioned Belgrade is Turkish name..
        I mentioned in Bulgaria many cities and Town named with Turkish words.
        because when ottoman Turk went there, there were only groups of Bulgarian tent... I mentinoed this sitution.
        And If we are murder nation ,they were only 200.000 they might be destroyed or asimileta! but we didn't..Bulgarians and Turks have good relations, also they are orthodox cristians... In the other hand , polsks like us...In Istanbul, "Polenezköy" is Polsk town. But, Turk-Armenian and Turk-Greek relations are in very different sitution...Because you want your Middle Ages lands! In middle ages , World's fronts were very different, No USA, no Canada, No, Brazil, No super Russia and Russia was not in Central Asia which lands our native country and rich with petrol and gold" Say russia give land to Turks and we can get Anatolia!!! You see it is impossible and stupidly!
        Turk-Armenian relations was good until your people was provaceted by Russians in 18th . 19th centuries. Many ottoman veziers were Armenian....
        Also Anatolian Seljuks Gıyassettins wife was Armenian...
        now I analized good relations are no and impossible
        I think there is enough land in Mongolia where your people come from. And the bulgarian lands you took over there also lived greeks and other people. So the pnly thing Turks can do is conquer cities and thats all.

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        • Re: Armenian-Turkish Relations

          Originally posted by KarotheGreat View Post
          I think there is enough land in Mongolia where your people come from. thats all.
          Our native country is not mongolia! Central Asia is our native contry! Caspian Sea's eastn side it starts...
          Here is the map...

          Bağımsız Devletler: Independent Turkish Countries
          Özerk Devletler: Autonomous Turkish Countries
          Türk olmayan devletlerde yaşayan Türkler: Turks and they live foreign countries,

          and Turkmen, Uzbek and Turk are same..

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          • Re: Armenian-Turkish Relations

            Don't care you can all go to kazachstan or Turkmenistan. don't care

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            • Re: Armenian-Turkish Relations

              Now I say they are so-called independent cause of Russia also they are marksist-leninist and Turkey capitalist...
              And I born in Anatolia and my parents and their parents and their their parents and their their their parants and their their their their parents and their their their their their parents and their their their their their their parents and and their their their their their their their parents..... borned in Anatolia.So I am belong to here... more than 1000 years

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              • Re: Armenian-Turkish Relations

                Kanki, your map is ridiculous. Ossetia is not an "autonomous Turkish country", Ossetians are an Iranian people.


                Originally posted by Kanki
                But Turkish Nation doesn't want to fight with Armenia or others...Why don't you give up your aggressive politics ?
                And also No Turk is alive from 1915 as we are youngs and we are not responsible for history
                You (more precisely your country) cannot displace an entire nation to the four corners of the earth, bury the topic through political manipulation for over 90 years, and then expect us to be warm and welcoming towards your military government which continues to blockade Armenia, and supports Azerbaijan's annexation of all remaining Armenian lands.

                And you say you're young and cannot be responsible. We're not saying present Turks carried out the murders and genocide, but the present-day Turks are responsible for how they respond to these past events. When the majority of your countrymen and government keep denying such a serious event, contrary to all facts, then you also have to receive part of the guilt.

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                • Re: Armenian-Turkish Relations

                  Azerbaijan's annexation
                  What kind of joke you are?

                  present-day Turks are responsible for how they respond to these past events.
                  Turks were majority in Armenia. Armenian's respond => * no Turks left * whole culture erased * Armenian terror ASALA * xxxx throwing ... So you advise that Turks should respond like Armenians.

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                  • Re: Armenian-Turkish Relations

                    Originally posted by Selpak View Post
                    Turks were majority in Armenia.
                    Why were turks a majority in Armenia?

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                    • Re: Armenian-Turkish Relations

                      Originally posted by Selpak View Post
                      What kind of joke you are?

                      Aliyev has repeatedly spoken about invading Karabagh, and said that they are justified in taking Armenian lands outside of Karabagh, and that they will try to do just that. Turkey supports these policies. Its not a joke (well it might be to you).



                      Originally posted by Selpak
                      Turks were majority in Armenia. Armenian's respond => * no Turks left * whole culture erased * Armenian terror ASALA * xxxx throwing ... So you advise that Turks should respond like Armenians.

                      That happened much later than the genocide, and was the natural reaction of Armenia's Azeri minority to Azeri pogroms of Armenians which took place earlier. And you're just changing the subject, ASALA only existed for 10 years, and has been obsolete for over 20. Think about the years between the end of the genocide (1923), and the beginning of ASALA (1975). What was Turkey doing those 52 years in relation to Armenians? Reaching out to them? No, they were covering up the genocide. Just one example is how they put political pressure on MGM in the 1930's, forcing them to stop production on The 40 Days of Musa Dagh. And during this time, there was no ASALA to point their finger at. You're acting like Turkey was making goodwill gestures towards Armenians during those years while the Armenians responded with terror. Armenians have no incentive to cooperate with Ankara's military government, even though Armenia's officials have repeatedly said they will have unconditional relations with Turkey, but Turkey refuses. So you see, we are not the unreasonable ones.

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