Armenian-Turkish Relations

[Anatolia]

Re: Armenian-Turkish Relations

A. You are a turk because you identify with the nation of turks and their language and culture. However, bloodwise you may not have any turkic blood at all. This is common among many turks from the west of they country who are more likely to have Caucasoid blood.

B. Anatolian is a bulls*it political term which turks like to use, maybe out of self hate or more likely because they persume they will thus have more of a "claim" to lands usurped from their rightful owners.

C. A very small minority of Armenians were actively supporting the Russians, if more had, they would not have marched like sheep to the deserts of Syria and slaughtered in cold blood.

D. Armenia not only has moral and historical claim over so called eastern turkey, but also legal i.e. Treaty of Sevres.

E. You may be happy to see turkey be a multi culturist state, but your government barely allows kurds to call themselves kurds, remember they used to be "mountain turks", and continues to instill the idea that all people within the borders of turkey are turks, unless they are members of the Armenian Apostolic, Greek orthodox or xxxish faiths.

F. Armenia will get back its lands, one way or another, most likely through war. So you may have to shed your blood.

G. There is no excuse for non turkish born Armenians, like those from Armenia, to go to turkey and work there, none! So I do not recognize them as Armenian. And 50,000 is a bit overblown fyi.

H. It would be a national security threat for Armenia to open its borders with turkey without first conducting a complete analysis of economic/social/political effects of open borders upon Armenia.

I believe that my thoughts reached to real Armenians who are looking to issue from broad perspective. I have noting to say to those who feed their soul with hate. They are hopeless cases. I’m very confident. If you can be so rootless to call your own mothers and sisters as “non-Armenians” as they just came to Turkey to work, there is no need to scare about future of Turkey.

[crusader1492]

Re: Armenian-Turkish Relations

I believe that my thoughts reached to real Armenians who are looking to issue from broad perspective. I have noting to say to those who feed their soul with hate. They are hopeless cases. I’m very confident. If you can be so rootless to call your own mothers and sisters as “non-Armenians” as they just came to Turkey to work, there is no need to scare about future of Turkey.

Irony

[Anatolia]

Re: Armenian-Turkish Relations

Although you can't muster the up the honesty to call what happened to the Armenians what it was (Genocide) and you lack the conviction to advocate even the least bit of justice for the Turkey's crime (besides "lets not hate" and "I welcome Armenians back to 'Anatolia'" }, I suppose you would like applause, or possibly a medal for your comments.

Your user name is enough to explain you. Sorry but your turn was seven centuries ago! I do not need applause or medal, I only need an open discussion.

[Armanen]

Re: Armenian-Turkish Relations

I believe that my thoughts reached to real Armenians who are looking to issue from broad perspective. I have noting to say to those who feed their soul with hate. They are hopeless cases. I’m very confident. If you can be so rootless to call your own mothers and sisters as “non-Armenians” as they just came to Turkey to work, there is no need to scare about future of Turkey.

They are not my mothers or sisters @sswipe. They are pseudo Armenians. Now siktir!

[Anatolia]

Re: Armenian-Turkish Relations

They are not my mothers or sisters @sswipe. They are pseudo Armenians. Now siktir!

I doubt you have no idea about Armenia. These ladies are coming to Turkey for house keeping. They are not selling their bodies. Some of them are 60 years old and still they have to work as they have to survive. If we will argue who is Armenian or not, believe me you can not even their nail!

[crusader1492]

Re: Armenian-Turkish Relations

Your user name is enough to explain you. Sorry but your turn was seven centuries ago! I do not need applause or medal, I only need an open discussion.

Get lost, please.

[crusader1492]

Re: Armenian-Turkish Relations

They are not my mothers or sisters @sswipe. They are pseudo Armenians. Now siktir!

Armanen,

I think it's time for ignore mode. After all, this "Anatolia" () is just another 'dime-a-dozen' Turk who comes here asking for a 'discussion' just so he can spout the tired Turkish talking points (lies) concerning Armenian-Turkish relations.

When he leaves, another transparent Turk will come along to replace them. These people actually think their clever.

[seruven]

Re: Armenian-Turkish Relations

Ok guys, why don't you try to calm down?

@Anatolia,
Ben de Türk'üm. It's relieving to see moderate Turks like you in that forum. As you have Caucasian and Kurdish roots, I'm of Arabic origin. Probably, like the rest of Turkish people, we also have some Armenian heritage (apart from Turkish, Greek, etc.).
However, I couldn't understand how you have figured out the number of Armenian women working in Turkey. I have never heard about housekeepers coming from Armenia! and one can easily infer from what you wrote that you are mentioning illegal prostitutes which is indecent to mention in such a forum.

@Armanen
As far as I know, the word Anatolia/Anadolu has been used for centuries. I don't understand what your problem is with it. You mention some activites of our government, but you don't know that many Turks oppose government's policies and we strive for the advance of the democracy in Turkey.

I don't understand how reconciliation between Turkey and Armenia will be possible without giving up these hostile attitudes. If reconciliation is indeed what we are seeking..

[gmd]

Re: Armenian-Turkish Relations

Ok guys, why don't you try to calm down?

@Anatolia,
Ben de Türk'üm. It's relieving to see moderate Turks like you in that forum. As you have Caucasian and Kurdish roots, I'm of Arabic origin. Probably, like the rest of Turkish people, we also have some Armenian heritage (apart from Turkish, Greek, etc.).
However, I couldn't understand how you have figured out the number of Armenian women working in Turkey. I have never heard about housekeepers coming from Armenia! and one can easily infer from what you wrote that you are mentioning illegal prostitutes which is indecent to mention in such a forum.

@Armanen
As far as I know, the word Anatolia/Anadolu has been used for centuries. I don't understand what your problem is with it. You mention some activites of our government, but you don't know that many Turks oppose government's policies and we strive for the advance of the democracy in Turkey.

I don't understand how reconciliation between Turkey and Armenia will be possible without giving up these hostile attitudes. If reconciliation is indeed what we are seeking..

what does reconciliation mean to you and why do you want it with Armenians?

[seruven]

Re: Armenian-Turkish Relations

what does reconciliation mean to you and why do you want it with Armenians?

This is an odd question.
Firstly, I want reconciliation with Armenians because we share a common history with you. For centuries we were neighbours and had good relations (accepting existence of exceptions). What Ittihadists did was undefendable and in one way or another, Turkey should show her sorrow for what happened to Armenians living in Anatolia which is a moral duty for us. I want to see Turks and Armenians to stop being sworn enemies.
Secondly, we all know that both Turkey and Armenia will benefit from open borders and good relations. As most of the countries have their greatest trade share with neighbour countries, it is not wise to have closed borders between Armenia and Turkey.

What does reconciliation mean to me then? I think, first and foremost it means ending hatred and trying to sympathize with each other.