Armenian-Turkish Relations

[ninetoyadome]

Re: Armenian-Turkish Relations

i dont know how accurate this is but according to the azeris
The roadmap, which will determine the fate of Turkey-Armenia relations, consists of 5 main items:

-Armenia will recognize Gars treaty signed between the USSR and Turkey in 1921;

-Joint commission of historians will be set up to investigate the genocide claims and the third countries may join the commission;

-The borders will be reopened between the two countries and relevant agreements will be signed to begin trade;

-The two countries will accredit their ambassadors to Georgia in Ankara and Yerevan, after that direct diplomatic relations will be established;

-The issues in the roadmap requiring approval of the legislative body will be discussed in the parliament.

[Gavur]

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Have a particular source friend?

[Alexandros]

Re: Armenian-Turkish Relations

Have a particular source friend?

Here it is Gavur.It was published on Turkish newspaper Sabah:

Five-step agreement

24 April, 2009 02:14:00

A historic announcement was made recently on the process of the normalization of relations with Armenia. According to information received by SABAH, the Foreign Ministry’s announcement of a compromise reached is based on five main items which provide the foundation for the agreement.

1- Armenia must recognize the Kars agreement

2- The border will be reopened and agreements completed3- Mutual ambassadorships will be opened

4- The parliament will approve the road map

5- Third-party nations will be able to join the commission of historians

With the initial preparations of the agreement text for the road map to Turkey-Armenia relations done, now the countdown to a ‘start’ has begun. Following the announcement made by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, all eyes are now focused on the road map to be determined between the two nations. According to information received by SABAH, the issue regarding the upper Nagorno-Karabakh mountain region was not included in the agreement. However, it was noted that the Karabakh mountain issue will remain connected “de facto” to the road map which will include parallel steps to be taken. An authority described the Karabakh issue by referring to the example of Cyprus and Turkey’s accession to the EU; “Cyprus is not a prerequisite, however it is a reality, just as the Karabakh issue is.”

“The process has begun'

“The agreement may be announced in May in connection to the Minsk Group.” The high-level authority who made this assessment also stated; "It may be announced in May or even September, but at least the process has begun.” Both lower and higher level committees will be established for the normalization of relations between the two nations. The lower commission will deal with such issues that fall under the titles of the border, the 1915 incidents, commerce, establishing diplomatic relations, customs and transportation. According to the information obtained, the agreement will have the following stipulations.

* Armenia must recognize the Kars Agreements signed between SSCB and Turkey. The agreement is not open to renegotiation.

* Third-party nations may also join the commission of historians which will handle the genocide accusations.

* The borders will be opened between the two countries and economic agreements necessary for commerce will be completed.

* Both nations will first off mutually accredit the Tiflis ambassadorship, and later will open embassies in both Ankara and Erivan.

* Agreements in the road map which necessitate the approval of the parliament will be brought to the Grand National Assembly of Turkey.

Link

[ninetoyadome]

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sorry Gavur. here is the website where i got info from:

http://en.apa.az/news.php?id=101035

[ninetoyadome]

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and here is the news on PanArmenian.net
/PanARMENIAN.Net/ A historic agreement between Armenia and Turkey consists of five provisions which make establishment of diplomatic relations possible.

According to information published by SABAH Turkish newspaper, the provisions are as follows:

* Armenia must recognize the Agreement of Kars

* Third-party nations may also join the commission of historians which will handle the genocide issue.

* The border will be opened between the two countries and economic agreements will be concluded.

* Both nations will first accredit the ambassadorship in Tbilisi, and will later open embassies both in Ankara and Yerevan.

* Agreements in the road map which necessitate the approval of the parliament will be brought to the Grand National Assembly of Turkey.

Nagorno Karabakh and Cyprus issues are not included as preconditions but are mentioned as urgent issues.

http://www.panarmenian.net/news/eng/?nid=30848

[Javakhk]

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Ջավախքը նշում է Մեծ Եղեռնի 94-րդ տարեդարձը
Միջոցառումներ Ախալքալաքում եւ Ախալցխայում

Javakhk Commemorateր the 94th Anniversary of the Armenian Genocide
Actions in Akhalkalak and Akhaltskha

Джавахк отмечает 94-ю годовщину Геноциа Армян
Акции в Ахалкалаке и в Ахалцха







See much material here:

http://javakhk.livejournal.com/50790.html

[democratic]

Re: Armenian-Turkish Relations

everything will be better

[Gavur]

Re: Armenian-Turkish Relations

So what is your opinion about that ?

Current Turkish Governmet lies its citizens ?

No current press lying to its citizens, because that thing does not look like a legal document.The wording is all wrong.

[UrMistake]

Re: Armenian-Turkish Relations

fake it is,we have to w8 lil more.
I like Jirinofsky he talks what have to be said by Armenian politicans at least some of them,he is a brave man and dont xxxx with him.

[bell-the-cat]

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and here is the news on PanArmenian.net
/PanARMENIAN.Net/ A historic agreement between Armenia and Turkey consists of five provisions which make establishment of diplomatic relations possible.

According to information published by SABAH Turkish newspaper, the provisions are as follows:

* Armenia must recognize the Agreement of Kars

* Third-party nations may also join the commission of historians which will handle the genocide issue.

* The border will be opened between the two countries and economic agreements will be concluded.

* Both nations will first accredit the ambassadorship in Tbilisi, and will later open embassies both in Ankara and Yerevan.

* Agreements in the road map which necessitate the approval of the parliament will be brought to the Grand National Assembly of Turkey.

Nagorno Karabakh and Cyprus issues are not included as preconditions but are mentioned as urgent issues.

http://www.panarmenian.net/news/eng/?nid=30848

A road map to guide you from one end of a very short street to the other end of it!