Armenian Georgian Relations

[truAnatolian]

Re: Armenian Georgian Relations

Are there any Russian "peacekeepers" in Javakhetia?

No.

And because of the war over the summer, what if Georgia decided to close its border with Armenia?

God forbid because they would lost alot more than Javakh.

How would the Russians have reacted to that? Closing borders is an act of war.

Considering Armenia is in CSTO I wonder why we havn't requested Russia to send some Ballistic Missiles towards Turkey yet.... After all, closing the borders was an act of warefare against the Republic of Armenia.

[Shaumian]

Re: Armenian Georgian Relations

The chauvinist regime in Gruzia that has ruled the country since 1990 is an enemy of all nationalities in the region, including Gruzians and Armenians. Its brutal policy against Abkhazia and Ossetia is one which all Armenians must condemn. The regime in Gruzia has allowed the Anglo-American-Zionist bloc to turn the country into a base from which to unleash aggression and subversive activities against Russia, Iran, Armenia, and others. The situation of Armenians in Gruzia has seriously deteriorated since 1990. They suffer discrimination with regard to government representation, employment, and language rights.

[Lernakan]

Re: Armenian Georgian Relations

Armenian side opposes formation of commission on Surb Norashen

/PanARMENIAN.Net/ The Armenian side is against formation of a commission to be charged with a task to clear up whom Surb Norashen belongs to. This church is Armenian, said bishop Vazgen Mirzakhanyan, head of the Georgian Diocese of the Armenian Apostolic Church.

“Five churches should be returned to the AAC, namely Surb Norashen, Surb Nshan, Shamkhoretsots Surb Astvatsatsin (Karmir Avetaran), Yerevanots Surb Minas and Mugni Surb Gevorg. The fact that these churches are Armenian is not questioned. Georgia’s claims that the foundation of the churches is Georgian are absurd. If there is a Georgian archeologist of genius who could define whom a church belongs to, he would undoubtedly be worth of Noble Prize,” the bishop said.

He also refuted the Georgian Patriarchate’s statement that an agreement on formation of a commission was achieved during the November 26 meeting in Tbilisi. “More than 20 Armenian churches have been already transformed into Georgian ones in 1990ies. The Armenian side could agree to form a commission if the problem of these churches is also addressed,” bishop Mirzakhanyan said, Bagin.info reports.

Presently, 32 reconstructed Armenian churches function in Georgia. Majority of them are situated in Samtskhe Javakheti and Kvemo Kartli.

http://panarmenian.net/news/eng/?nid=28090

[jgk3]

Re: Similarities between Georgian and Armenian alphabets

Good eye Yerazhishda. I also noticed this in the Armenian-Georgian relations thread. Could a mod be kind enough to move those posts into this thread? Thanks.

Done.

[Federate]

Re: Similarities between Georgian and Armenian alphabets

Done.

I wanted it to be the opposite, meaning our posts go to Yerazhishda's thread But it's okay.

[Tigranakert]

Re: Armenian Georgian Relations

Georgian arrests aim to open church-political haggling with Armenia
24.01.2009 17:08 GMT+04:00 Print version Send to mail In Russian In Armenian



/PanARMENIAN.Net/ The process of preservation of Georgia as an empire has been carried from Abkhazia and South Ossetia to Samtskhe-Javakheti-Tsalka, an Armenian expert said.

"Having lost control over the breakaway regions, the Georgian authorities are trying to cement positions in the Armenian-inhabited territories, targeting people who can struggle for their national values and faith," Vahe Sargsyan, expert at Mitq analytical center said in a statement obtained by PanARMENIAN.Net.

"Grigor Minasyan and Sargis Hakobjanyan are the people who maintained Armenian culture in Samtskhe Javakheti. It's ridiculous that these people are charged of espionage and formation of illegal armed unit. Such actions of the Georgian authorities instigate public hatred not only in Samtskhe Javakheti but also in other regions."

These arrests may aim to open church-political haggling with Armenia and appropriate Surb Nshan Armenian church in Akhaltsikhe and some other churches in the region, according to the expert.

[kujirasan]

Re: Armenian Georgian Relations

The Georgian President and his cabal seem to have an incredible talent and capacity to attain lowest degree of baseness! Most people become puppets with reluctance, this is the only one that relishes it with a gusto.

[Federate]

Re: Armenian Georgian Relations

Does our government not have $25 000???? How the phuck can we let this happen!
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Hovhannes Tumanyan’s Famous “Vernatun” Purchased by Georgian Businessman
[ 2009/02/10 | 14:49 ] society culture

Regnum reports that the famous “vernatun” of Armenian national poet Hovhannes Tumanyan located in Tbilisi has been sold to a Georgian businessman for $25,000. The “Vernatun” was an upper story chamber that the poet used as gathering place for Armenian intellectuals, writers and artists of the day. Levon Ananyan, President of the Armenian Writers Union, has also confirmed the sale of this historic Armenian site.

Mr. Ananyan states that the house appeared on the private market some 4-5 years ago at an asking price of $15,000. He notes that he petitioned the Armenian government to purchase the site at the time but that there was no follow-up on the matter. Mr. Ananyan was hopeful that the issue could be amicably resolved by the governments of Armenia and Karabakh on the 140th anniversary of Tumanyan’s birthday.

During an interview with “Hetq”, Deputy Armen Bayanduryan of the Georgian Parliament and Director of the P.Adamyan Theater in Tbilisi noted that the Tumanyan library had been sold some ten years ago and that he had no news of any recent sale of property. This news was somewhat contradicted by Hovhannes Grigoryan, Secretary of the Writers Union, who stated that the sale of the library occurred within the past 10-15 days and expressed amazement over the 10 year claim.

Mr. Grigoryan added that the site had been under the jurisdiction of the Tbilisi Mayor’s Office, at the request of the Tumanyan heirs. He speculated that the transaction was the work of somebody with contacts in local government.

The “Vernatun” was established by Hovhannes Tumanyan in 1899 at the house where he resided at Behrutyan Street #44 on the top fourth floor. Members of the literary group would meet once or twice a week to discuss and debate various literary and national issues. Permanent members included Ghazaros Aghayan, Avetik Isahakyan, Levon Shant, Derenik Demirjyan and Nikol Aghbalyan. Other noteworthy literary and artistic figures such as Mouratsan, Komitas, Proshyan, to name a few, also attended the gatherings .

http://hetq.am/en/society/vernatun

[Federate]

Re: Armenian Georgian Relations

Tigran Karapetyan Says He’s Ready to Buy Tumanyan Residence
[ 2009/02/11 | 16:53 ] politics
Ararat Davtyan

Labelling the recent sale of the Hovhannes Tumanyan residence in Tbilisi to a Georgian businessman for $25,000 a “shame”, Tigran Karapetyan, President of the People’s Party of Armenia, declared that he’d be willing to buy back the building if it was a question of money. The politician criticized those who remained indifferent to such a development and who didn’t act to purchase the Tumanyan house when it first went on the market 4-5 years ago for $10,000-15,000.

“If it is possible to purchase the house and it’s just a matter of money, I’m willing to buy it. Let the Foreign Ministry set up the deal and I’ll buy it,” declared Mr. Karapetyan today.

He confessed that we had the impression that Armenia’s Foreign Minister was only dealing with the Artsakh issue. “Let him travel to Georgia and take care of this problem and the problems in Javakhk. They are bringing back coffins from Russia. Who is behind this? Official protest letters must be sent to this government and public clarifications demanded,” Mr. Karapetyan stressed.

http://hetq.am/en/politics/tkarapetyan-4

[KarotheGreat]

Re: Armenian Georgian Relations

ATA URGES GEORGIAN CULTURE MINISTER TO ADDRESS ARMENIAN MONUMENTS PROBLEM

The Assembly of Tbilisi Armenians (ATA) urged the Georgian Minister of Culture and Sports Nikoloz Rurua to give a legal assessment to unauthorized changes of the image of Surb Norashen Armenian Church. As ATA told PanARMENIAN.Net, the Church, as a cultural monument, should be under protection of the Ministry. “We also demand clarification as regards the other Armenian churches: Sueb Nshan, Shamkhoretsor Surb Astvatsatsin (Karmir Avetaran), Yerevanots Surb Minas and Mugni Surb Gevorg,” said the ATA statement. The members of the organization also turned to Tbilisi city administration with a number of questions regarding Surb Norashen Armenian Church.