Armenian Georgian Relations

[iberia]

Re: West Armenia

world know that caucasians are best warrior and dance with swords is just training not warrior. as i know kochari is greek not armenian. real armenian soul show in shalakho. real warrior georgian dance is khorumi.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VEi53k-xZE. in 2008 there was georgia vs russia, ossetia and chechnya. if russia won't help abkhazians and ossetians these lands will be ours in one day

[ninetoyadome]

Re: West Armenia

i'm talking with facts unlike you. you armenians only read books wich write by armenians and remember armenians by nature are merchants not warriors and caucasian people are warriors. do you forget what pushkin sad about armenians?

What Pushkin said about Armenians was in his book where a Chechen father called his son a coward, an Armenian because his son didnt kill an innocent person. Pushkin is saying Armenians dont kill innocent people.
azeris love to take this section out of context without actually having read the book. Pushkin wasnt criticizing Armenians he was commending them for not being barbarians.

[UrMistake]

Re: West Armenia

i'm talking with facts unlike you. you armenians only read books wich write by armenians and remember armenians by nature are merchants not warriors and caucasian people are warriors. do you forget what pushkin sad about armenians?

Well i like georgian sword dances,so you say cause of that you are warriors, because you got some cool dances with swords!

We got Kochari

Where do you found all of your objections about armenians!
Any propaganda source that should we read!

[KarotheGreat]

Re: West Armenia

i'm talking with facts unlike you. you armenians only read books wich write by armenians and remember armenians by nature are merchants not warriors and caucasian people are warriors. do you forget what pushkin sad about armenians?

who lost a war two years ago huh? It wasn't Armenia if I remember it correctly. so stop this BS. Who would you have taken Yerevan when Andranik and his army with veterans of the Caucasus front were there?

[iberia]

Re: West Armenia

i'm talking with facts unlike you. you armenians only read books wich write by armenians and remember armenians by nature are merchants not warriors and caucasian people are warriors. do you forget what pushkin sad about armenians?

[UrMistake]

Re: West Armenia

in 1918 if there was not england yerevan would be ours

Get LOST or talk with facts,dont bump in threads unrelated to your posts.

[araratsi]

Re: West Armenia

in 1918 if there was not england yerevan would be ours

You should try to hold what you have before that slips out of your hand, I remember reading that tiblisi could have been part of Armenia but Armenians decided to let you keep it.
Why are Georgian so pig headed ?

[iberia]

Re: West Armenia

in 1918 if there was not england yerevan would be ours

[Tigranakert]

Re: Armenian Georgian Relations

Georgian authorities do their best to clear Samtskhe-Javakheti region from Armenians



Georgian anti-Armenian policy is gaining momentum, and the recent elections showed it best.

The upcoming elections in Javakhk, if held, might bring this Armenian-populated region in Georgia to confrontation with the central government of Tbilisi. Today’s Akhalkalaki, alas, is no different from what was here 20 years ago: broken roads, poverty, unemployment, mass migration of the working population into Russia. In fact, all of the Georgian President’s statements on the “care taken of the problems of this region” have no value: there are neither normal roads, nor jobs. People here warm themselves with wood not because the region has no gas, but because the latter is too expensive. The situation in Akhalkalaki further deteriorated after withdrawal of the Russian military base, thanks to which Armenians could work in Javakhk instead of leaving it.
June 4, 2010

PanARMENIAN.Net - However, the base was gone, and problems appeared instead of it, unemployment being the most serious of them. Today only 800 people live in the region but they too are already packing up. The situation of the Armenians in Javakheti can be compared with the situation in Nagorno-Karabakh before 1988. The Georgian authorities are doing their best to clear the region from Armenians. There have remained almost no Armenians in the City of Akhaltsikhe, the center of the region. In Akhalkalaki and the neighboring villages, Armenian population forms a majority yet. According to local activists, the only requirement of the Armenian population is to be given autonomy within Georgia and permission to keep records in their native language, develop a culture and literature. But this is what Official Tbilisi cannot and does not want to provide. Instead, they force georgianization of remaining Armenian churches, mandatory introduction of the Georgian language in schools as the principal language. In short, Georgian anti-Armenian policy is gaining momentum, and the recent elections showed it best. But it is not only about the elections. Authorities have turned the Armenian community of Tbilisi into a kind of ephemeral society that can do nothing and does only what it considers good for the Armenians of Georgia. And there are only a few people who assess the situation adequately and realize where the policy of President Saakashvili leads.

Mikhail Saakashvili himself finally came to the conclusion that the best thing to do is to make friends with Turkey and Azerbaijan against Armenia. But, Armenian authorities have their share of guilt in the Georgian leadership’s current policy against the Armenian community of Georgia, too. For some reason we believe that it is erroneous to spoil relations with Georgia, because it is through Georgia that Armenia receives gas and the necessary goods from Russia. That is, we have put ourselves in the position of an applicant, in the position of the weak. No one in the world has yet reckoned and will ever reckon with the weak. If Saakashvili felt the tough position of Armenia in the issue of Javakhk, he would never dare to pursue an active policy of assimilation of Armenians. The region of Kvemo Kartli in Georgia is populated with Azeris, and they enjoy more rights than Armenians. However, it should be noted that any national minority is perceived as unfavorable in Georgia, and so in this respect there is no much difference between Armenians and Azeris in Georgia. The same is true about the xxxs, the remaining Russians and other nationalities. Special treatment is given to Meskhetian Turks, whom Tbilisi is reluctant to accept, despite the commitments signed in the Council of Europe. It should be noted that authorities and opposition share the same view in this issue: Georgia must be populated with Georgians. Here a direct parallel with the pan-Turkists suggests itself: everyone living in Turkey, regardless of his nationality, is a Turk. In fact, Georgia has chosen the same track as Ataturk, who decided to specify the religion instead of the nationality in passports, which is actually done now in Turkish identity cards. Such a democrat as Saakashvili will not probably take this extreme measure, but an attempt to “easy deportation” is already made. Whether Georgia will succeed or fail is difficult to predict. The Javakheti Armenians, for example, are not going anywhere, and it becomes clear from a conversation with them that they are waiting for the Russian military to return. This is not yet announced directly, but the truth is that there are such sentiments. And they cannot but be in a country in which monuments are erected and plaques are put in memory of the butchers of the Armenian nation, bot “eternal friendship and love” is sworn in word, on the other hand.

[Armanen]

Re: Armenia and Georgia

I agree Armenians have not sacrificed themselves sufficiently.

Armenia could have been potentially much bigger than Georgia.

Until 95 years ago Armenia was larger than georgia.