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  • Vrej1915
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    Originally posted by Vahram View Post

    The rail link is either going to make or break this, and no one is taking back Artsakh with billions spent from the baboon they still loose more then we do on the battle field! let us not loose sight of the ball! It's all about the game!


    Vahram,
    You do realize that the rail link won't be operational before a minimum 10 years, at best.... since not even the definit plan is validated.
    It's at the stage of studies yet...
    Only a very strong will, and endless financial and material means would make it faster. (The kind of wich the red army or the wehrmacht possessed)
    None is present to day, and frankly speaking, the lack of haste is more on our side... (I do not justify this, I think is silly, but things being what they are...)

    Just to compare with, look the time necessary for a much simpler link, between Tiflis and Kars, with big financial means available, and the political will of 2 states, one of wich at least very determined and organised...

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  • Vahram
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    It is easy to overlook the fact that the demands are irreversible BUT the opening of the border is reversible.
    You know maybe we should just wait for the rail link to be operational. Sometimes we are so busy to speak of things we don't take check of reality. We don't live in a good place, we are lucky that we are still alive to argue with one anther. Wake up and feck the toorks! It will be your death! Who cares who is in charge of what in Hayastan damn it! At least it is an Armenian. Wait for this rail link, and if this does not pan out we should build inter space travel for our link not just with the world but with the stars. Wake up!

    The rail link is either going to make or break this, and no one is taking back Artsakh with billions spent from the baboon they still loose more then we do on the battle field! let us not loose sight of the ball! It's all about the game!

    demands are irreversible BUT the opening of the border is reversible
    Feck them and their demands! They could not finish the job the first time! They are now running scared they know it's a matter of time before Verj! you cried about commercialization Mr. London yet sometimes I wonder where you are coming from. You detest commercialization but you are advocating opening the door to these filthy scum?



    Let the toorks demand what they want, it does not matter what they want! They can't open the border! It is not their land for them to open the fecking border! Enjoy the show!
    Last edited by Vahram; 02-17-2013, 02:48 PM.

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  • londontsi
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    Originally posted by Eddo211 View Post

    Maybe some forget the bottom line of Turkish demands to open its border to Armenia:

    -Give up Artsakh to Azeri Turks
    -Forget about Genocide
    -Recognize current borders as legal and give up any ideas of Western Armenia


    It is easy to overlook the fact that the demands are irreversible BUT the opening of the border is reversible.

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  • Vrej1915
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  • Haykakan
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    Raffi Hovannisian denies links to Freemasonry lodges

    NEWS.AM
    February 15, 2013 | 13:07


    YEREVAN.- Armenian presidential candidate Raffi Hovannisian dismissed
    suspicion of having any links to the Freemasonry lodges.

    `My father Richard Hovannisian and me have never had any links to
    Freemasons. We neither have been members of any organization,' he told
    reporters on Friday, adding that he sees nothing wrong in having links
    to Freemasonry lodge.

    Commenting on fellow candidate Vardan Sedrakyan's statements,
    Hovannisian said every person has a right to have a personal opinion
    but he must be accountable for label and lies.

    Raffi Hovannisian has no intention to file a lawsuit, unless he is
    accused of violence (probably supposing the attack on Paruyr Hayrikyan
    - ed.).

    As Armenian News-NEWS.am informed earlier, Sedrakyan accused
    Hovannisian of masterminding the recent assassination attempt against
    Hayrikyan. During a press conference on Thursday, Sedrakyan noted that
    he has reasonable grounds to believe that the assassination attempt
    was organized by a Freemasonry organization that conducts activities
    in Western Europe and the US. As per Sedrakyan, Raffi Hovannisian and
    his father, American-Armenian historian Richard Hovannisian, are
    members of these Freemasonry lodges. Furthermore, Sedrakyan noted that
    he knew for a long time that something is being orchestrated against
    him.

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  • Haykakan
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    This is different given how Russia and the west have been trying to impose their own cronnies. If indeed both sides are satisfied with the same leader then this is indeed new.
    Originally posted by gegev View Post
    Always advocating for the powerful and corrupt doesn’t harm the advocator by the mighty and at the same time it is a very lucrative business nowadays. Such people are very much appreciated by ...

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  • gegev
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    Always advocating for the powerful and corrupt doesn’t harm the advocator by the mighty and at the same time it is a very lucrative business nowadays. Such people are very much appreciated by ...
    Last edited by gegev; 02-17-2013, 01:12 AM.

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  • Haykakan
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    Serzh Sargsyan candidature meets the interest of West and Russia:
    Sergey Markedonov

    13:56, 15 February, 2013

    YEREVAN, FEBRUARY 15, ARMENPRESS: Neither Russia nor West have an
    impact on the electoral processes taking place in Armenia. Sergey
    Markedonov, Russian expert on the Caucasus Center for Strategic and
    International Studies in Washington told in the briefing with
    Armenpress reporter.

    ''Both Russia and West are favoring Sargsyan's candidature. In one
    hand there is an established cooperation with Russia, and agreement to
    continue deployment of Russian military base in Armenia. What refers
    to West, they are also considering Sargsyan best candidate of
    Armenia's February 18 Presidential elections, considering him
    flexible candidate. Political scientist deems considerable Serzh
    Sargsyan is sober-minded and never crosses the hot lines. ''When
    Sargsyan does not like something, he never rejects it , instead offers
    '' Let us try''. Sargsyan is flexible, therefore meets the interest of
    the West and Russia. The candidate seems to be acceptable almost by
    all.

    Presidential elections are due in Armenia on February 18.

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  • Haykakan
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    Those dodgy characters were there before Serj and will be there after Serj. These characters are a natural part of capitalism America had Rockafeller we got Dodi Gago-America had J.P. Morgan we got Rubo. As for the Shaakashvily types going extinct - well i wouldn't count on it. There will always be someone looking to profit at the expense of his people.

    Originally posted by londontsi View Post
    Serj being re-elected will not be a disaster but we will have more of the same.

    Unfortunately for him he needs to rely on too many dodgy characters which are excess luggage for the nation.

    Not sure about the Saakashvily bit.
    Everybody knows there is no room for such characters in the Caucasus any more courtesy to Russia.


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  • londontsi
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