Elections in Armenia

[KarotheGreat]

Re: Presidential elections 2008 in Armenia

Armen I've got a question, how's suport do you have. who's supportin you're party please could you tell me that

[Armenian]

Re: Presidential elections 2008 in Armenia

Armen I've got a question, how's suport do you have. who's supportin you're party please could you tell me that

Although we tend to think all that is stable in Armenia politically, in realty of the matter is that it is not.

Believe it or not, there are a lot of people in Armenia who's political rational are fully inline with this garbageman called Armen2008. You must realize that Armenians tend to be politically immature and Armenians in the Caucasus region in particular do not have much exposure to the real political world. What's more, since a majority of the population in Armenia have a low standard of living, they will seek change at all costs regardless of geopolitical ramifications. Naturally, the mases only understand their stomachs. Sadly, the masses can't see past their daily survival routine. And let's not forget that Armenians have never been an easy people to rule over, especially when the rulers have been Armenian.

The number one thing Armenians excel in doing - politically - is complain. And the number one thing Armenians excel in doing - socially - is gossip. Thus, when you combine political immaturity, lack of worldly exposure, chronic social dissatisfaction and a strong tendency to participate in and believe in hearsay/gossip - you get a fertile ground for foreign agents to do their dirty work. So get ready, as we near the presidential elections next year you will see and hear many strange things.

[Armen2008]

Re: Presidential elections 2008 in Armenia

It is NOT funny that you name us, hayastancy, unjust things in vain. You are russian provocator! Finally, the nearest future will show who is who.

[KarotheGreat]

Re: Presidential elections 2008 in Armenia

qses or hajastanti es mjadm Hayastani masin mdadze or Rus saldatner@ gnadzin hayastanits u paderazme ov mer sahman Turkaji het bdi paspane. urgu tjagadi vra hayastan chi krna kriv ene. U duk Artsakh guzeg jet tag. Mer hoger@, Turkere dzezi inch kan kmudezen

[Armenian]

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Here is an excellent "documentary" that all Armenians need to watch and ponder.

It is well produced and it has something for everyone. It covers Armenian Nazis working for Hitler, it covers Armenian terrorists, it covers Armenian cannibalism, it covers the Armenian genocide of Turks, it also has stupid Armenians (like the old man they found at Tsitsernakabert), and it depicts Armenian w-h-o-r-e-s (like Mutafian). I think the Turkoglu "Armen2008" will really-really enjoy this documentary.

In essence, this "documentary" film clearly depicts the fundamental reasons why Armenians, real Armenians that is, and Turks will never reconcile.

Armenian So-Called Genocide

Episode 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCmg7AdM1tU

Episode 2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6YJwHR8aXw

Episode 3 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7Q77jAaIhk

Episode 4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fr0kWla0UFs

Episode 5 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_p7lh2m8Vw

Episode 6 http://www.youtube.com/verify_age?ne...%3DEBOCDvIVMpE

Episode 7 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdW7cOknKmk

[Armenian]

Re: Presidential elections 2008 in Armenia

According to the Russophobe lunatic Paruyr Hayrikian, the Armenian opposition faces: “a team (meaning Kocharyan and Sarkisian) that originates in KGB and the representatives of the Russian imperialism." And he goes on to say: "This means we have to create a team capable to confront all these things.”

F***ing idiots. This is the pathetic state of the Armenian opposition today. And in light of this, I would like to say once again - thank God for Kocharyan and Sarkisian.

Armenian

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Decision 2008: Speculation turns toward Ter-Petrosyan to save opposition



By Gayane Abrahamyan, ArmeniaNow reporter

With presidential elections now only six months away, two key questions dominate political debate in Armenia: 1. Will the opposition find a candidate to challenge the overwhelming presence of Prime Minister Serzh Sargsyan? 2. Will that candidate be former president Levon Ter-Petrosyan? Armenia’s first president is back to the political arena? Several oppositional parties have met during August at the initiative of the National Self-Determination Union and its leader Paruyr Hayrikyan. The participants of the meeting included the heads of almost all those parties who claim to be opposition.

The aim of the meetings has been “to create a team to jointly appear at the election,” says Hayrikyan, adding that the opposition faces “a team that originates in KGB and the representatives of the Russian imperialism. This means we have to create a team capable to confront all these things.” Opposition parties similarly vowed unity before last May’s parliamentary elections, yet managed to place only two parties (Heritage and Orinats Yerkir) out of 14 entered. Whether they will manage to create the “strong team” Hayrikyan dreams about will be clear in the end of September.

Meanwhile talks about the return of Ter-Petrosyan to politics become increasingly persistent. Speculation that independent Armenia’s first president might take up the campaign mantle has been fueled by visits Ter-Petrosyan has made in recent moths to provinces, presumably holding discussions with supporters. Such speculation is not new, as nearly everyone except the publicly reclusively ex-president himself commented on the possibility of a return in the 2003 campaign for president.

“There might have been the topic of Ter-Petrosyan’s return in circulation last time, but this time it [the return] is an utmost necessity as one of the ways to lead the country out of this situation and to get rid of the clan is his coming to power,” Aram Manukyan of the Armenian All-National Movement board told ArmeniaNow. Ter-Petrosyan is viewed as a joint candidate both by the Armenian All-National Movement and many other parties. Lyudmila Sargsyan, chairwoman of the Social-Democrat Hnchak Party stated a month ago there is no other more experienced and skilful candidate than the former president.

“The only guarantee to win the election is having both a joint and a major candidate. Levon Ter-Petrosyan, who has won a serious victory [meaning the victory in Karabakh War], can be the only such candidate,” Sargsyan said. One of the explanations for the return of the former president is that the Armenian-Azerbaijani conflict settlement suggested by Ter-Petrosyan is still timely today. After having negotiated for the last 10 years the parties [to the conflict] have come back to the idea of stage solution, which became the reason for Ter-Petrosyan’s resignation in 1998.

“He is the most crucial statesman of the country, who can win over the ruling regime,” says Suren Surenyants of the Republic Party political board, opining that voters choice in February will be between independence or having the status of a Russian outpost. However, Ter-Petrosyan’s return is not widely welcomed by everyone. Particularly Manukyan, who has declared his intention to seek the republic’s top post.

“Levon Ter-Petrosyan has been silent for ten years and does not say a word. Those, who hit at the opposition politicians to clear out the political field and to return Levon Ter-Petrosyan, do service first of all mostly to the authorities,” says Manukyan. Former Member of Parliament, oppositionist Manuk Gasparyan also believes the talks of Ter-Petrosyan’s return an exaggeration as he is confident the latter will not run for the post.

“He is a serious politician and understands that the return to politics after ten years of dormancy is not an easy thing,” says the chairman of the Democratic Way Party. Arshak Sadoyan shares Gasparyan’s opinion saying if the former president really wanted to run then he should have had started the preparations at least two years before. According to Sadoyan the talks on the return of the first president play into Serzh Sagsyan’s hand.

“If Levon Ter-Petrosyan runs, the powers will get a real opportunity to falsify the election results and say ‘people have not voted [for Ter-Petrosyan] because they remember the cold and dark years’,” says Sadoyan. The ruling circle does not perceive the return of the first president seriously yet. Galust Sahakyan of the Republican Party told ArmeniaNow they have not discussed the possibility yet, but in case Ter-Petrosyan runs, their strategy will be somewhat different, although: “the results will be the same nonetheless.”

Source: http://armenianow.com/?action=viewAr...g=eng&IID=1149

[Lucin]

Re: Presidential elections 2008 in Armenia

So the sell-out puppet wants to make a comeback...
But I'm afraid that our 'miamit' people would support him as much as they did that Baghdassarian's party...

[Artsakh]

Re: Presidential elections 2008 in Armenia

According to the Russophobe lunatic Paruyr Hayrikian,

No one can deny hayrikians patriotism. He spent all those years in prision because of his belief in a free and independent Armenia-- and he refused to take back his words.

one thing is for sure, at least hayrikian and der petrosyan are living in armenia, through thick and thin, and trying to do something, unlike you and your kind who even after the indepedence do not go back, who are soaked in american materialism.

[Artsakh]

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(Saturday, September 8)

“Chorrord Ishkhanutyun” wonders with what Armenians associate their former President Levon Ter-Petrosian and gives the following answer. “Independence, war, years of cold and darkness,” says the paper sympathetic to him. “Yes, the government’s propaganda machine has eventually achieved its goal. Levon Ter-Petrosian’s name is associated with the years of cold and darkness as well. But note that all of these three phenomena were extremely serious challenges that faced Armenia, and during Levon Ter-Petrosian’s years in power all of them were successfully met. Armenia established itself as an independent state; we won the war; Armenia overcame the energy crisis.”

“And now let us try to understand with what Serzh Sarkisian’s name is being associated,” continues “Chorrord Ishkhanutyun.” “Approach anyone on the street and mention Serzh Sarkisian. There will be three main associations: corruption, Monte Carlo, [his notorious brother] Sashik. Does someone, who used to be a Komsomol activist, then an HHSh member, then a Republican and changed his party affiliation the moment he felt that the former team is losing power, have the moral right to run for president of Armenia?”

[Siamanto]

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one thing is for sure, at least hayrikian and der petrosyan are living in armenia, through thick and thin, and trying to do something, unlike you and your kind who even after the indepedence do not go back, who are soaked in american materialism.

I think that Diasporan Armenians should have the honesty to admit that the intricacies and subtleties of (present day) Armenia's domestic politics are beyond their understanding, be as neutral as possible and limit their participation to lobbying for Armenian interests in the countries of the Diaspora. Of course, there may be some form of control mechanism to avoid Diaspora's subordination and keep it as a collaboration of partners.
Furthermore, if and when the dual citizenship becomes a reality, Diasporan Armenians should be allowed to vote only after having lived in Armenia for a certain time - at least, three to five years???

I do not consider as "Diasporan Armenian" those who grew up in Armenia and have emigrated recently.