Elections in Armenia

[freakyfreaky]

Re: Presidential elections 2008 in Armenia

Interest rates rise for 5th time as a result of inflationary pressure and increased international food prices (eggs, butter, and wheat) and fuel; PM Sarkisian also cites monopolies as having effect on increased prices.

http://www.armenialiberty.org/armeniareport/report/en/2008/07/D182FE5E-367D-4A82-9B8C-AA28A1A061AD.ASP

Serge does not support imprisoning those who assemble peacefully to oppose the government; meets w/ COE commissioner on human rights to discuss fate of prisoners from March 1 events; commissioner opines publicly that those jailed should either be tried or released and that police have been slow to clarify March 1 events; Prosecutor General admits three were wrongfully killed by tear gas cans fired by police and five by gunshots. http://www.armenialiberty.org/armeni...872E7149D1.ASP

[Lernakan]

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WHY DID LYUDMILA TER-PETROSYAN RETURN TO ARMENIA?

Vardan Barseghyan

Hayots Ashkhar Daily
Published on July 18, 2008
Armenia

A Cheap and Primitive Spectacle

Yesterday, all the newspapers supporting the Armenian Pan-National
Movement publicized a very heart-breaking news release on their front
pages. It ran as follows: Ter-Petrosyan's wife has returned from the
United States and even visited the Northern Avenue.

"Those who think that my family members or I am going to leave Armenia
are people who cannot get rid of the psychology of the refugee. I
am sure that none of the members of the pan-national movement wishes
to leave Armenia as he/she is sure that there is nothing sweater in
the world than one's homeland," Ms. Ter-Petrosyan announced to the
activists participating in the sit-in protest.

Take your handkerchiefs and wipe your tears, dear brothers and
sisters. Did you wipe them? And did you drink water? So, we can pass
on to a serious conversation.

"Hayots Ashkharh" was the first to inform the reader that on July
3, Lyudmila Ter-Petrosyan and Lilit Ter-Petrosyan, the wife and the
daughter-in-law of the leader of the "liberation movement", as well as
his three grand-children left for the United States by the Yerevan -
Paris- Los-Angeles flight.

Let's note that the office of the "pan-national" movement first refused
to comment upon=2 0the fact. And this is quite explicable. The thing
is that the departure of L. Ter-Petrosyan's family aroused serious
dissatisfactions both among the closest co-thinkers of the leader and
the ordinary activists. As informed by the sources, the latter even had
unpleasant conversations with David Shahnazaryan regarding the topic.

The question was advanced like this: we struggle here and spare no
effort to make Ter-Petrosyan a President, and his family is enjoying
itself in Washington. Where is justice?

And thus, in order to mitigate the justified dissatisfactions of the
co-thinkers, Ter-Petrosyan has to call his wife back to Armenia. We
emphasize, only his wife. His son, daughter-in-law and grandchildren
are now in the United States, so the titles running "Ter-Petrosyan's
family has returned" arouse only grin and nothing more.

Here is a cheap and primitive spectacle performed in front of our eyes

[freakyfreaky]

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To all of you out there gladly drinking the kool-aid provided by the ruling party Serge and his successor Robert, take note, once and for all, you can be a proud member of the opposition without supporting or joining forces with LTP. http://www.a1plus.am/en/?page=issue&iid=63150 ("A number of parties, which consider themselves patriotic pro-opposition, have united against Levon Ter-Petrossian and his co-thinkers, and hold consultations on the country’s political problems...")

Heritage party not ready yet to officially join forces with LTP. http://armenianow.com/?action=viewAr...=1197&CID=3088

http://www.a1plus.am/en/?page=issue&iid=63040

Investigation of the March 1 events has unmasked the pro-government forces 'shooters'; now, determining whether the use of lethal force was justified. http://www.armenialiberty.org/armeni...F1FCD61EF6.ASP

To the investigators, I invite them to look at the Mayday events in Los Angeles in MacArthur park in 2007; the police were found to be in the wrong using less than deadly force and the crowd was much larger and unruly than anything represented by anyone inside the RA. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Los...%C3%AAl%C3%A9e

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-melee9-2008jul09,0,5412938.story

("Los Angeles police officials announced Tuesday that 17 officers and two sergeants from the department's elite Metropolitan Division should be punished for their roles in last year's May Day melee in MacArthur Park, which left scores of people injured.

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-melee9-2008jul09,0,5412938.story

("The pending discipline revolves "mostly around force issues," LAPD Cmdr. Rick Webb told the civilian Police Commission at its weekly meeting. The department's misconduct findings come after more than a year of investigative work, which included the review of hundreds of hours of videotapes showing officers swinging batons and firing foam rubber bullets at journalists and immigrant rights protesters, officials said.")

Opposition leader, an LTP supporter and leader of Armenian Pan-National Movement, released from RA custody; 70 other opposition members still in custody. http://www.armenialiberty.org/armeni...ACF8615144.ASP

PACE president confirms what any humane person already knows, the detention of persons other than those that committed an actual crime on March 1 is unacceptable; blasts independent inquiry that does not include LTP and his supporters as providing partial, incredible results.http://finchannel.com/index.php?opti...7429&Itemid=13

Spokesperson for RA contends there are no political prisoners. http://www.armenialiberty.org/armeni...C59F708963.ASP

ARF leader declares RA to be in a state of social crisis. http://www.armtown.com/news/en/has/20080724/275388233/

Free Gurgen Yeghiazarian and Gagik Jhangirian already; its embarrassing that patriots are being jailed on unlawful charges.

[Federate]

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To all of you out there gladly drinking the kool-aid provided by the ruling party Serge and his successor Robert, take note, once and for all, you can be a proud member of the opposition without supporting or joining forces with LTP. http://www.a1plus.am/en/?page=issue&iid=63150 ("A number of parties, which consider themselves patriotic pro-opposition, have united against Levon Ter-Petrossian and his co-thinkers, and hold consultations on the country’s political problems...")

This is interesting. This is where Raffi Hovhanissian and Jirair Sefilian should be too because their views differ majorly from LTP.

[HayotzAmrotz]

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This is where Raffi Hovhanissian and Jirair Sefilian should be too because their views differ majorly from LTP.

Raffi should be condemned for his support for LTP. His type of politicians are of no use to Armenia. Raffi is a spineless creature with only one single credit to his name: His standing up to the Turks in Istanbul while he was the foreign minister. That's it. The rest of his political career in Armenia is a disaster, his party is an absolute waste of parliament seats and public money.

Jirair is not a politician, he is a soldier. That's his calling and he should stick to it. If there is no war then he should devote his life to our Armed Forces and not meddle into politics let alone say stupid things such as calling for an armed overthrow of the government.

Kocharyan was our best president so far and Serzh is on the right track so let the man get on with his work. LTP is not an opposition, he is a traitor and should have been jailed long time ago for his numerous crimes in the past. Letting him off the hook was Kocharyan's biggest mistake. And Dashnaks talking to LTP again, after all his hate and crimes, is Dashnak's biggest mistake. LTP and his team are also responsible for the tragic events of March 1. He and his team should have been charged with inciting violence and jailed.

[Anoush]

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Raffi should be condemned for his support for LTP. His type of politicians are of no use to Armenia. Raffi is a spineless creature with only one single credit to his name: His standing up to the Turks in Istanbul while he was the foreign minister. That's it. The rest of his political career in Armenia is a disaster, his party is an absolute waste of parliament seats and public money.

Jirair is not a politician, he is a soldier. That's his calling and he should stick to it. If there is no war then he should devote his life to our Armed Forces and not meddle into politics let alone say stupid things such as calling for an armed overthrow of the government.

Kocharyan was our best president so far and Serzh is on the right track so let the man get on with his work. LTP is not an opposition, he is a traitor and should have been jailed long time ago for his numerous crimes in the past. Letting him off the hook was Kocharyan's biggest mistake. And Dashnaks talking to LTP again, after all his hate and crimes, is Dashnak's biggest mistake. LTP and his team are also responsible for the tragic events of March 1. He and his team should have been charged with inciting violence and jailed.

I agree with your thoughts. Though I am with Tashnagtsoutyun; but if they talked with LTP the traitor then it was a mistake, too bad. LTP should be jailed. Kocharian was very good for the country and I also believe that Serje is on the same track. I was so happy when he won. Though we are in the diaspora, but whatever is good for Armenia and our people.

[Armenian]

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LTP should be jailed. Kocharian was very good for the country and I also believe that Serje is on the same track. I was so happy when he won. Though we are in the diaspora, but whatever is good for Armenia and our people.

A great majority of the well educated/well exposed citizens I have had contact with here in Armenia are more-or-less of the same thought. Although many dislike Serj Sargsyan as a politician, they do see that the country is nevertheless headed in the right direction and that the nation does 'not' need a revolution, especially one that is being masterminded from abroad. So in the absence of a real political choice, the population here is satisfied with the election results. Street trash called "Levonakanner" here are a loud minority being exploited by Washington DC and Ankara. The sooner Serj Sargsyan makes a positive impression on the republic's economic situation the faster the aforementioned street trash will disappear.

[To_Es_El_Qo]

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Es minjev aror@s chem handipel khelatsi mard vor Levonakan lini. Molorvats, handipel em, bayst ait khumbi mets mas@ mtapokhvel en Serji ashkhatanq@ gnahatelov.

A great majority of the well educated/well exposed citizens I have had contact with here in Armenia are more-or-less of the same thought. Although many dislike Serj Sargsyan as a politician, they do see that the country is nevertheless headed in the right direction and that the nation does 'not' need a revolution, especially one that is being masterminded from abroad. So in the absence of a real political choice, the population here is satisfied with the election results. Street trash called "Levonakanner" here are a loud minority being exploited by Washington DC and Ankara. The sooner Serj Sargsyan makes a positive impression on the republic's economic situation the faster the aforementioned street trash will disappear.

[RSNATION]

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A great majority of the well educated/well exposed citizens I have had contact with here in Armenia are more-or-less of the same thought. Although many dislike Serj Sargsyan as a politician, they do see that the country is nevertheless headed in the right direction and that the nation does 'not' need a revolution, especially one that is being masterminded from abroad. So in the absence of a real political choice, the population here is satisfied with the election results. Street trash called "Levonakanner" here are a loud minority being exploited by Washington DC and Ankara. The sooner Serj Sargsyan makes a positive impression on the republic's economic situation the faster the aforementioned street trash will disappear.

Thanks Armenian. That confirms my impression of what is really happening.

[freakyfreaky]

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All Armenian Movement opines that there is no difference between Serge and Robert and that Serge is unwilling to shake Robert's "heritage". http://www.a1plus.am/en/?page=issue&iid=63248

How do Armenian citizens who attempt to rout out perceived corruption from the RA play to the hand of your rivals when such an act unravels the country's fabric that has kept it together? http://www.armtown.com/news/en/has/20080731/277388973/

Of course, the RA under LTP and Robert were different. That's self-evident, isn't it? http://www.armtown.com/news/en/has/20080729/276588673/

Is Hayots Ashkar a pro-RA chatter box or these pro-Serge types incapable of supplying any examples or facts supporting their slanted conclusions? I mean Serge was a Soviet party leader and KGB agent.

ARF to remain allied with the coalition; yes, members of the opposition can participate in non-partisan causes for the common good. http://www.armtown.com/news/en/has/20080729/276588677/

Funny, how pro-Serge supporters always revert to LTP supporters are funded by foreign agents attack without even recognizing that there are opposition members that do not align with LTP. Laughable, actually!

Did you hear the one about the polling commission chairman that got fined for criminal violations for interfering with voting? I bet he didn't hinder Serge supporters.