Elections in Armenia

[To_Es_El_Qo]

Re: Presidential elections 2008 in Armenia

You most likely haven’t been reading this forum before you join. Sran ban ches kara apatsutses, ira esh@ xrustalitsa.

[freakyfreaky]

Re: Presidential elections 2008 in Armenia

If you take out Levon who is totally funded by the collor revolution creators,then you are left with a scattered and very small/weak opposition parties.To be honest there is not much of a oppositin party in Armenia today other then the one supported by our enemies.It's not like LTP is doing anything other then trying to overthrough the government just so he can be king again anyway.He has no policy or agenda no plan whatsoever to solve any of Armenias problems.The lack of a strong opposition is a good thing if you think the government is good or on the right track and its bad if you think it is not.I have never refered to the present government as anything great but the truth is there is no good alternative at the moment and yes the present authorities will try to keep it that way but that is no diffeent then any other government (remember the republicans stealing the election in the USA).

I think an opposition exists in the RA exclusive of LTP.

[Armenian]

Re: Presidential elections 2008 in Armenia

If you take out Levon who is totally funded by the collor revolution creators,then you are left with a scattered and very small/weak opposition parties.To be honest there is not much of a oppositin party in Armenia today other then the one supported by our enemies.It's not like LTP is doing anything other then trying to overthrough the government just so he can be king again anyway.He has no policy or agenda no plan whatsoever to solve any of Armenias problems.The lack of a strong opposition is a good thing if you think the government is good or on the right track and its bad if you think it is not.I have never refered to the present government as anything great but the truth is there is no good alternative at the moment and yes the present authorities will try to keep it that way but that is no diffeent then any other government (remember the republicans stealing the election in the USA).

I totally agree with your comments Mher. Looking at the political field in Armenia I have come to the hard realization that Serj Sargsyan's Republican Party is the only one that can lead the nation at this stage in its political development. Armenia is headed, albeit slowly, in the right direction economically and politically. What we dont need is setbacks to this forward momentum. The Armenian Republic needs political 'evolution' not a color revolution. Just today there was an opposition rally in front of the Matenadaran that attracted what seemed to be between five-ten thousand people. Police representation was light and there was no noticable tension within the crowd. I joined them for a short while. I heard Levon was to speak but I could not wait. You are right, with Levon out of the picture there is no effective opposition in the nation. Perhaps that is why foreign powers have chosen Levon to do their bidding.

[freakyfreaky]

Re: Presidential elections 2008 in Armenia

I am sure there is some opposition but if you take out Levon and his buddies the rest are very different from each other they have nothing uniting them and no real power behind them.The real power behind the opposition is a collor revolution instigator."You most likely haven’t been reading this forum before you join. Sran ban ches kara apatsutses, ira esh@ xrustalitsa" aper yete ban unes aselu kam apatsutselu uremn asa kamel apatsutsi datark tegh mitk chuni martu vatabanel.Admistrator ends nkatoghutyun arets yerb yes noun ban en turkin asetsi ench vor du endzes asum.And no i have not read everything on this sight and probably wont read every post there is caus its too time consuming.

I think members of the existing non-LTP aligned opposition would disagree with you and that you are over-simplifying things. http://forum.armenianclub.com/showpo...7&postcount=11

[Federation]

Re: Presidential elections 2008 in Armenia

Ruling Party Leader Blames U.S. For Armenia Unrest

By Anna Saghabalian

A leading member of the governing Republican Party (HHK) on Friday accused the United States and other “foreign powers” of having a hand in Armenia’s dramatic post-election developments.

Galust Sahakian, an HHK deputy chairman, claimed that opposition leader Levon Ter-Petrosian and his associates acted at the behest of external forces hostile to the Armenian state.

“In many foreign powers there are organizations that are used by those powers,” said Sahakian. “Those are mainly American forces, not the American state, and some [Masonic] lodges based in France.”

“Of course the state is behind them,” he told a news conference.

Sahakian is not the first pro-government politician to blame the West and the U.S. in particular for the deadly post-election unrest in Yerevan that led to the imposition of a 20-day state of emergency and mass arrests of Ter-Petrosian supporters. Hamlet Harutiunian, a parliament deputy from the HHK, likewise alleged an “international conspiracy against Armenia” in the aftermath of the March 1 street battles between security forces and opposition protesters.

The allegations were echoed by Hrant Markarian, the top leader of the Armenian Revolutionary Federation (Dashnaktsutyun), a junior partner in the country’s HHK-led governing coalition. Opening a Dashnaktsutyun congress in Yerevan in May, Markarian said Ter-Petrosian’s post-election demonstrations were part of a U.S. plan to foment a “color revolution” in Armenia.

The external conspiracy theory also appears to be part of the ongoing criminal investigation into what the Armenian government has called an opposition attempt to stage a coup d’etat following the disputed presidential election of February 19. The Special Investigative Service, a law-enforcement agency leading the probe, claimed in a recent statement that Ter-Petrosian’s bid for regime change was “organized by one center” and “financed from abroad.” It did not elaborate.

Shortly after the March 1 the SIS chief Andranik Mirzoyan instructed regional prosecutors to round up local participants of the opposition demonstrations in Yerevan and find out “what was said at the rallies about the assistance from foreign states” and “whether rally participants spoke about ending Russia’s presence in Armenia.”

Speaking to journalists, Sahakian also complained about U.S. criticism of Armenian elections. “Unlike Europe, the USA and its various organizations claimed the elections were not administered well in Armenia,” he said. “We responded to that and they shut up because in our [last] two national elections there was not a single observer from the United States.”

The U.S. State Department has described the Armenian presidential ballot as “significantly flawed.” The vote’s assessment by the European Union has been more positive.

(Photolur photo)

Source: http://www.armenialiberty.org/armeni...BD73E2547B.ASP

[freakyfreaky]

Re: Presidential elections 2008 in Armenia

Umm, Kocharian allowed the U.S. to set up American "corners" in the RA to illuminate the people about the U.S.

So, that Kocharian should likely also be blamed for pandering to the Americans by allowing them to set up U.S. propaganda centers inside of the country.

God forbid citizens of the RA, a purported constitutional democracy, would act like those in a free society and emulate American citizens and enjoy their freedoms like oh, say, petitioning your government.

[freakyfreaky]

Re: Presidential elections 2008 in Armenia

Apparently, if you work for the RA and criticize a presidential candidate favored by the President or voice an opinion contrary to the 'official' position, not only do you lose your job but you may also lose your liberty; free speech by government officials that is critical of the current administration or presidential candidates is not protected because Kocharian considers it to be political party activism. FREE GAGIK JAHANGIRIAN!!! http://www.armenialiberty.org/armeni...AD296E1758.ASP

Protesters demand Serge step down. http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5...IiMrrM4jfIjk9A

Levon exerts mind control because he is really a jooish warlock. http://www.armenialiberty.org/armeni...85219BBC93.ASP

LTP points to September as he tell Serge that the ANC is coming to get him. http://armenianow.com/?action=viewAr...g=eng&IID=1198

Conservative party joins ANC.

Other opposition party's consider LTP and his supporters to be promoting fascism.

One things for certain, the opposition, whether or not led by LTP, is diverse and strong in the RA.

[Armenian]

Re: Presidential elections 2008 in Armenia

Ruling Party Leader Blames U.S. For Armenia Unrest

A leading member of the governing Republican Party (HHK) on Friday accused the United States and other “foreign powers” of having a hand in Armenia’s dramatic post-election developments. Galust Sahakian, an HHK deputy chairman, claimed that opposition leader Levon Ter-Petrosian and his associates acted at the behest of external forces hostile to the Armenian state. “In many foreign powers there are organizations that are used by those powers,” said Sahakian. “Those are mainly American forces, not the American state, and some [Masonic] lodges based in France.” “Of course the state is behind them,” he told a news conference. Sahakian is not the first pro-government politician to blame the West and the U.S. in particular for the deadly post-election unrest in Yerevan that led to the imposition of a 20-day state of emergency and mass arrests of Ter-Petrosian supporters. Hamlet Harutiunian, a parliament deputy from the HHK, likewise alleged an “international conspiracy against Armenia” in the aftermath of the March 1 street battles between security forces and opposition protesters. The allegations were echoed by Hrant Markarian, the top leader of the Armenian Revolutionary Federation (Dashnaktsutyun), a junior partner in the country’s HHK-led governing coalition. Opening a Dashnaktsutyun congress in Yerevan in May, Markarian said Ter-Petrosian’s post-election demonstrations were part of a U.S. plan to foment a “color revolution” in Armenia. The external conspiracy theory also appears to be part of the ongoing criminal investigation into what the Armenian government has called an opposition attempt to stage a coup d’etat following the disputed presidential election of February 19. The Special Investigative Service, a law-enforcement agency leading the probe, claimed in a recent statement that Ter-Petrosian’s bid for regime change was “organized by one center” and “financed from abroad.” It did not elaborate. Shortly after the March 1 the SIS chief Andranik Mirzoyan instructed regional prosecutors to round up local participants of the opposition demonstrations in Yerevan and find out “what was said at the rallies about the assistance from foreign states” and “whether rally participants spoke about ending Russia’s presence in Armenia.” Speaking to journalists, Sahakian also complained about U.S. criticism of Armenian elections. “Unlike Europe, the USA and its various organizations claimed the elections were not administered well in Armenia,” he said. “We responded to that and they shut up because in our [last] two national elections there was not a single observer from the United States.” The U.S. State Department has described the Armenian presidential ballot as “significantly flawed.” The vote’s assessment by the European Union has been more positive.

Source: http://www.armenialiberty.org/armeni...BD73E2547B.ASP

Mr. Sahakian is the vice president of Armenia's Republican party, the party that essentially rules the republic. I saw the interview mentioned above on television. Needless to say, I was pleasently surprised to hear is very candid and quite accurate accusations.

[freakyfreaky]

Re: Presidential elections 2008 in Armenia

accurate accusations are facts. I don't see any facts being articulated by Mr. Sahakian in the above article. Just conjecture, speculation and hyperbole.

I'm assuming you pro-Serge types believe the family members for jailed oppositionists are protesting the government at the behest of Americans and Joos. http://www.istockanalyst.com/article...of_Jailed.html

[Armanen]

Re: Presidential elections 2008 in Armenia

accurate accusations are facts. I don't see any facts being articulated by Mr. Sahakian in the above article. Just conjecture, speculation and hyperbole.

I'm assuming you pro-Serge types believe the family members for jailed oppositionists are protesting the government at the behest of Americans and Joos. http://www.istockanalyst.com/article...of_Jailed.html

Unless you also saw the same interview you can't say what Mr. Sahakyan claimed was without "facts". He may have generalized on certain issues, as all politicians do, but on other things he hit it right on the head.