Are Armenians on the verge of extinction?

[Digger]

How many Armenians are there worldwide? I heard that Armenians only number a couple million. Whatever the number is, Armenians should seriously make increasing their numbers their number 1 priority. Armenians should breed like hell. Matter of fact, it should be in every Armenian's philosophy that any Armenian who doesn't have at least 4 kids, is a traitor to his/her people.

[Lucin]

Re: Are Armenians on the verge of extinction?

Oh, please... We are not on the verge of extinction. You are exaggerating.
But I agree. We need kids, since our country is apparently experiencing a demographic 'implosian' for various reasons. But I have noticed an increasing trend amongst our women who absolutely don't want to have any kids, or with their own mentality and words; they don't like to be a "breeding machine", etc. Weird... However, on the other hand, "breeding like hell" - as you suggest- is not the secret either.( What's the use of having, for instance, four or five self-hating, ignorant fruits?) The secret- in my opinion- would be; to give a proper education and discipline to these adorable creatures and to instil them with our values and that's a big responsibility that would take a lot of time and energy, for which only motivated, commited and eager people are needed.

[Grandchild]

Re: Are Armenians on the verge of extinction?

Oh, please... We are not on the verge of extinction. You are exaggerating.
But I agree. We need kids, since our country is apparently experiencing a demographic 'implosian' for various reasons. But I have noticed an increasing trend amongst our women who absolutely don't want to have any kids, or with their own mentality and words; they don't like to be a "breeding machine", etc. Weird... However, on the other hand, "breeding like hell" - as you suggest- is not the secret either.( What's the use of having, for instance, four or five self-hating, ignorant fruits?) The secret- in my opinion- would be; to give a proper education and discipline to these adorable creatures and to instil them with our values and that's a big responsibility that would take a lot of time and energy, for which only motivated, commited and eager people are needed.

What are "our values"? As mentioned in my intro, I am here to try to understand what it means to be Armenian. It seems I notice so far primarily Christian in religious belief, is there a particular branch of Christianity that is more "typical" Armenian? I don't remember my grandfather ever going to church, but he was senile by the time I knew him and perhaps the family didn't want to expose him like that. Grandma went to the Baptist church but she wasn't Armenian.

I notice you live in Tehran. I don't know why that surprises me, but it does.
I guess just knowing the dry history of the treatment of them and "us" would indicate to me a comradery. I have had no exposure to what I am reading on here.

This has been the most eye opening 12 hours I can remember in a long time.

[Armenian]

Re: Are Armenians on the verge of extinction?

How many Armenians are there worldwide? I heard that Armenians only number a couple million. Whatever the number is, Armenians should seriously make increasing their numbers their number 1 priority. Armenians should breed like hell. Matter of fact, it should be in every Armenian's philosophy that any Armenian who doesn't have at least 4 kids, is a traitor to his/her people.

Dude, Armenians have been around for thousands of years. We as a nation have probably been through more crap than the entire human race combined. So, don't worry we are not going anywhere. Besides, a large Armenian population on earth would most probably be a threat to the geopolitical stability of the world anyway. So, nature has a way of creating a delicate balance. Nevertheless, with some time and a little stability you will see what we, as a collective nation, can do.

What are "our values"? As mentioned in my intro, I am here to try to understand what it means to be Armenian. It seems I notice so far primarily Christian in religious belief, is there a particular branch of Christianity that is more "typical" Armenian?

Armenian values/ethics are rooted in Orthodox Christianity and our national Church has the oldest Christian tradition on earth. Thus, the values of Orthodox Christianity are deeply ingrained in Armenian culture and identity. Armenian national values/cultural expressions are also deeply rooted in our ancient Aryan/Caucasian culture and beliefs.

I notice you live in Tehran. I don't know why that surprises me, but it does.

There are Armenians living in most civilized nations on earth, including some uncivilized ones such as Uganda and Turkey, for example.

I guess just knowing the dry history of the treatment of them and "us" would indicate to me a comradery. I have had no exposure to what I am reading on here. This has been the most eye opening 12 hours I can remember in a long time.

Well, eventually you will either find yourself here or loose yourself here. Armenians may be a lot of things but dull or unopinionated they are not. However, before you make-up your mind about us, please take your time and familiarize yourself with the national culture and identity first.

Here are some good websites that can help you do that:

http://www.tacentral.com/history.asp

http://www.hyeetch.nareg.com.au/armenians/index.html

http://www.armenian-history.com/index.htm

Some image galleries:

http://www.haykland.com/gallery.php

http://www.parev.am/PICTURES/xPictures.html

http://www.masis.am/wfp/

Here are some images that capture the Armenian spirit:

[skhara]

Re: Are Armenians on the verge of extinction?

Besides, a large Armenian population on earth would most probably be a threat to the geopolitical stability of the world anyway.

[Grandchild]

Re: Are Armenians on the verge of extinction?

Dude, Armenians have been around for thousands of years. We as a nation have probably been through more crap than the entire human race combined. So, don't worry we are not going anywhere. Besides, a large Armenian population on earth would most probably be a threat to the geopolitical stability of the world anyway. So, nature has a way of creating a delicate balance. Nevertheless, with some time and a little stability you will see what we, as a collective nation, can do.



Armenian values/ethics are rooted in Orthodox Christianity and our national Church has the oldest Christian tradition on earth. Thus, the values of Orthodox Christianity are deeply ingrained in Armenian culture and identity. Armenian national values/cultural expressions are also deeply rooted in our ancient Aryan/Caucasian culture and beliefs.



There are Armenians living in most civilized nations on earth, including some uncivilized ones such as Uganda and Turkey, for example.



Well, eventually you will either find yourself here or loose yourself here. Armenians may be a lot of things but dull or unopinionated they are not. However, before you make-up your mind about us, please take your time and familiarize yourself with the national culture and identity first.

Thank you for your detailed response. I've looked in the phone book and looks like a Greek Orthodox church is the closet to what you mentioned. Would this be approximately correct?

I know some of what you've discussed, like the "age" of Armenian culture. I certainly know the temperament.

I've been amazed at some of what I've read here, and how much in alignment they are with my own intellectual evaluations of world affairs (not having ever had an "Armenian" slant, just straight intellectual evaluation.) Yet here I am reading about issues that I have been thrown off numerous forums just for considering to question; and here it seems common conversation. Pretty cool so far.

Though I suspect my remarks may be minimized after admitting this; I'm not a dude, I'm a dudette.

[Armenian]

Re: Are Armenians on the verge of extinction?

Though I suspect my remarks may be minimized after admitting this; I'm not a dude, I'm a dudette.

Minimized??? I think they were magnified...

Please tell us more about yourself, dudette. In your introduction thread you said that the current news about the Armenian Genocide resolution got you interested. That is interesting because sometimes within the Armenian diaspora it takes an event to trigger the awakening of the Armenian spirit within. For me it was the earthquake and the Artsakh war movement in the late 1980s that did it.

[Grandchild]

Re: Are Armenians on the verge of extinction?

Minimized??? I think they were magnified...

Please tell us more about yourself, dudette. In your introduction thread you said that the current news about the Armenian Genocide resolution got you interested. That is interesting because sometimes within the Armenian diaspora it takes an event to trigger the awakening of the Armenian spirit within. For me it was the earthquake and the Artsakh war movement in the late 1980s that did it.

Well, I am older and my story is very long. To peek at the most recent page you would find a longing to find "home" somewhere in the world, but a resignation that it is likely too late to do more than dream. ( I do actually own a home; but that isn't what I mean).

[Armenian]

Re: Are Armenians on the verge of extinction?

To peek at the most recent page you would find a longing to find "home" somewhere in the world, but a resignation that it is likely too late to do more than dream. ( I do actually own a home; but that isn't what I mean).

I know exactly what you mean. I am no spring chicken myself, and I have more-or-less been searching as well. For individuals with spiritual depth that "search" never ends. In final analysis, however, home is where the heart is. And in my case my heart and soul is with my family and my homeland. And regarding the homeland: I see Armenia as my mother and America as my wife.

[Grandchild]

Re: Are Armenians on the verge of extinction?

Lucky you to have such ties. I am the black sheep of the family and have no contact with them in decades. And though I should call USA my homeland, I have never felt a part and tend to being entirely too critical of her. My congratulations to you for having a solid foundation.