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    Post questions and comments on written and spoken Western Armenian. Easterners versed in Western Armenian are welcome as well! Post books, movies, or anything else that you think are great resources to either learn or listen to.

    Հարցումներ եւ գրադատութիւններ Արեւմտահայերէնի մասին գրէ'ք: Արեւելեան Հայեր Արեւմտահայերէն որ գիտեն քոյլատրած են գրել ալ: Գիրքեր, շարժանկարներ կամ բան մը որ սիրէք: Յաջողութիւն:

    - Նաեւ, այստեղ Արեւմտահայերէնով կամ Անգլերէնով պէտք է որ գրէք:
    Last edited by yerazhishda; 09-11-2008, 04:42 PM.

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    Beginner's Armenian - H. Andonian

    Commisioned by AGBU in the 1950's, this is the book that I am currently working from. It is very thorough and not for the faint of heart. I have only gotten halfway through it and I've been learning from it since December. Some mistakes, some vagueness in regards to definitions and examples, but overall a very good resource. $15



    A Textbook of Modern Western Armenian - K. Bardakjian

    I have it but have never seriously studied from it. Seems to be suited more to classroom study than self-study. 100 pages longer and published more recently than Beginner's Armenian. $25



    English-Armenian/Armenian-English Modern Dictionary - M. Koushakdjian and Rev. D. Khantrouni

    The only respectable W. Armenian-English/English-W. Armenian dictionary available in America. Printed in Beirut, this is geared towards Beirutsi learning English and thus features a doubly larger English-Armenian section. However, There are only a few words that I was not able to find in the Armenian-English section so far. $45



    Vocabulearn - W. Armenian (2 lvls.)

    Get both levels as they are worth it. If you want get the tapes because they are cheaper; the CDs are the same program, they don't include more words. Essential. $20-30 depending on whether it's used/new or tape/CD.

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      Re: The Western Armenian Language Thread

      W. Armenian language websites:



      Armenian, Karabaghtsi, Armenian-American and World events from the perspective of the Tashnagtsoutiun (ARF). Very well thought-out articles regardless of your political position. A little difficult for the beginner but if you have Koushakdjian dictionary you should be able to understand it. Free.



      Eastern Armenian dictionary, but can be used for W. Armenian. Another great resource for quickly searching words in either language if you don't want to search through your Koushakdjian dictionary. Not as complete as a traditional dictionary as the content is user-submitted. Use with caution as orthography, spelling, and some words are not necessarily mutually intelligible. Free.



      Based out of California. Mostly books in E. Armenian, but there is a sizeable stock of books in W. Armenian. When searching for authors/books in W. Armenian, they use the E. Armenian pronounciation. (Ex. if you typed in "Baronian" you wouldn't find anything, but if you typed in "Paronian" all of his books would come up).

      Especially helpful to the beginner is the "Madenashari Hradaragoutiunner" (Pocket-book Series) published by Cilicia Bookstore Publishing & Printing House (Aleppo). This is an economical series of Western Armenian classics by Baronian, Odian, Toumanian, Raffi, Hamasdegh, etc. This series gives the beginner an opportunity to read real books. $12-15, $20 w/ shipping.
      Last edited by yerazhishda; 09-11-2008, 10:21 AM.

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        Re: The Western Armenian Language Thread

        Can someone help me with the definitions to these words? Thanks.

        Ա) լերան
        Բ) աչ - աչերդ, աչերուդ
        Գ) պերլինի

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          Re: The Western Armenian Language Thread

          Originally posted by yerazhishda View Post
          Can someone help me with the definitions to these words? Thanks.

          Ա) լերան
          Բ) աչ - աչերդ, աչերուդ
          Գ) պերլինի

          լերան - on the mountain

          աչ - աչերդ, աչերուդ, eye - your eyes - your eyes (western) (Should be spelled աչք)

          պերլինի - Berliner or Berlin's

          __________

          Here's a decent translator:

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            Re: The Western Armenian Language Thread

            Originally posted by crusader1492 View Post
            լերան - on the mountain

            աչ - աչերդ, աչերուդ, eye - your eyes - your eyes (western)

            պերլինի - Berliner or Berlin's

            __________

            Here's a decent translator:

            www.translator.am
            Thank you, enger.

            This is what I thought (although լերան should be spelt լեռան). And because աչ appears many times without the ք, I was confused as to what it meant.

            P.S. How have you done learning Armenian? What methods/approaches have you found useful?

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              Re: The Western Armenian Language Thread

              Originally posted by crusader1492 View Post
              աչ - աչերդ, աչերուդ, eye - your eyes - your eyes (western) (Should be spelled աչք)
              You're a little off.

              աչերուդ (or աչերիդ in Eastern Armenian) implies - for your eyes.

              Also, plural in the Armenian language can be done two ways, by adding a ք or a եր at the end of the word.

              Therefore, it's either աչք or աչեր

              Many Western Armenian speakers for some reason make the mistake of saying աչքեր.

              Originally posted by yerazhishda View Post
              And because աչ appears many times without the ք, I was confused as to what it meant.
              Again.

              աչ = eye

              աչք or աչեր = eyes.
              Մեր ժողովուրդն արանց հայրենասիրութեան այն է, ինչ որ մի մարմին' առանց հոգու:

              Նժդեհ


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                Re: The Western Armenian Language Thread

                Originally posted by Armenian View Post
                Many Western Armenian speakers for some reason make the mistake of saying աչքեր.
                Ahhh that makes more sense. I've always heard people say աչքեր. Thanks for the clarification.

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                  Re: The Western Armenian Language Thread

                  Originally posted by Armenian View Post
                  You're a little off.Also, plural in the Armenian language can be done two ways, by adding a ք or a եր at the end of the word.
                  Is that a left over from Grabar? Շունք կամ կատուք լսած չեմ: Is it used in any other context other than for "eyes"?

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                    Re: The Western Armenian Language Thread

                    Originally posted by Armenian View Post
                    You're a little off.

                    աչերուդ (or աչերիդ in Eastern Armenian) implies - for your eyes.

                    Also, plural in the Armenian language can be done two ways, by adding a ք or a եր at the end of the word.
                    Therefore, it's either աչք or աչեր

                    Many Western Armenian speakers for some reason make the mistake of saying աչքեր.



                    Again.

                    աչ = eye

                    աչք or աչեր = eyes.
                    I'm not so sure about a ք making word plural (եր is correct if the word is one syllable). I have a house full of both western and eastern Armenian speakers who say so.

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