The Western Armenian Language Thread

[ArmSurvival]

Re: The Western Armenian Language Thread

Well first off its a foreign word. Second, because only a small portion of Armenians actually use that word (some Armenians whose parents are from Arab countries). And more importantly, we already have a word which means "fresh" in our language (I'm sure there are many synonyms).

If we start putting foreign words for which we already have an equivalent in Armenian dictionaries, then a significant portion of our dictionary would be Turkish words. Chojukh instead of yerekha, zeitun instead of tsitabdugh, chakhmakh instead of gaydzkar. It would also be infused with English words... television instead of heradesil, telephone instead of herakhos, computer instead of hamagarkich, etc...

Do you really want our language to be slowly morphed into the sick sh*t you hear in the average Bolsahye household? Or to be full of Arabic or English words? Մայ չոճուխըս այսօր մարքեթ գնաց եւ հետը բերաւ չախմախ մը եւ մէկ տոպրակ զեյդուն: Թեզէ խնցորները ֆորկաթ ըրաւ, բայց ից օքեյ: Honestly, in the long run it will turn our language into a retarded canvas of international phrases, and all in the name of convenience.

The Armenian language has so many root words and is so sophisticated that you could create new words out of existing Armenian roots. Lets say hypothetically there was no word for "syrup" in Armenian (I use the word "shireh" but that might be Arabic). You could simply create the word մեղրապէս ("like honey"). Made from scratch, has an accurate meaning, and is 100% Armenian. Imagine what a serious linguist could come up with if there was any lack of Armenian terms, which there really isn't. The only words which I would consider loanwords are scientific and medical terms borrowed from Latin and Greek. Other than that, a true loanword in the Armenian language is extremely rare, and I think we should keep it that way.

[TomServo]

Re: The Western Armenian Language Thread

Its not a loanword since we have the Armenian equivalent of it. 'Tarm' is the Armenian term.

And the English equivalent of abattoir is slaughterhouse. Yet abattoir is found in English language dictionaries? Why shouldn't teze?

[yerazhishda]

Re: The Western Armenian Language Thread

Not really

Eastern is more of Russian Hayastanci old Armenian

Yeah, but they speak Eastern Armenian. You guys are both Eastern Armenian, although you have been seperated for quite some time now.

[Pazooki]

Re: The Western Armenian Language Thread

Not really

Eastern is more of Russian Hayastanci old Armenian

[yerazhishda]

Re: The Western Armenian Language Thread

Western Armenian is like parskahyes.

Not quite, more like Bolsahyes, Lipanahyes, Souriahyes, all Amerigahyes pre-1970.

Parskahyes are Eastern Armenians such as yourself.

[Pazooki]

Re: The Western Armenian Language Thread

"Menk taza yergir enk gnaloo"
"gnaloo" is not used in Western Armenian Yertank, Gertang or Kenal, Katsing

Sorry but I'm not Western Armenian.

Western Armenian is like parskahyes.

[Armanen]

Re: The Western Armenian Language Thread

Honestly, I don't mind when an Armenian doesn't know much Armenian or any at all, I hope they decide to learn and I encourage it, but I really don't like it when they know Armenian and they choose to speak a different language with me or another Armenian.

[yerazhishda]

Re: The Western Armenian Language Thread

Some Armenian jerk kid who speaks Eastern Armenian said what little Armenian I know...he said it sounds like 'village Armenian',
This is a huge insult isn't it?

Everyone is going to criticize you, you should learn this right now. Either you'll be too Armenian or not Armenian enough, too white or not white enough, or maybe your Armenian might be very poor, or if you're Eastern Armenian you're too "Russified" or if you're Western Armenian you're too "Ottomanized". You just have to learn to keep trudging through no matter what anybody says.

The most important thing is that you are dedicated to your culture and your people.

[Armenian]

Re: The Western Armenian Language Thread

Some Armenian jerk kid who speaks Eastern Armenian said what little Armenian I know...he said it sounds like 'village Armenian',
This is a huge insult isn't it?

It probably does sound like village Armenian, but why are you insulted? You probably speak poor Armenian, which is not a sin, but did you expect the "Armenian jerk kid who speaks Eastern Armenian" to admire "what little Armenian [you know]"?

[yerazhishda]

Re: The Western Armenian Language Thread

Is there anything with book and audio to go along. I can't just learn by a book, or by audio.

I am aware of only one book/tape set but the tapes are reel-to-reel and are hence of no use to the modern learner.

Check out this as well as this. Hope this helps.