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Are Armenian women handicapped because of their upbringing?

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  • #201
    Re: Are Armenian women handicapped because of their upbringing?

    Notice the entire time I've been talking about assimilation of cultures. And this is not our Armenian culture but the culture that men have adapted from America, Russia, Europe, etc. which are the dominant cultures surrounding our communties.
    Thank you Lord for creating this wise being so that he could one day enter these forums and say this. This sums everything up. I think we know now what "tradition" or "culture" spoils women around the world!

    Other women. Armenian men just like odar men they screw their Armenian women or lovers royally by sleeping with whomever they come across to (other Armenian women or other odar women). I hear it and I notice it even on these so called Armenian Forums. I have noticed enough to know it.
    You know what you can hear a lot of the time here in Yerevan? "Levi gunank, tugherk?" There are so many gorgeous creatures here that men have completely lost themselves. They treat them like toys though instead of treating them the way they deserve to be treated. I don't know what to say. I got out of one of my jobs because of this. It wasn't the only reason but it was one of them. One of my bosses (I used to be the lead designer for a press here in Yerevan) was a complete dumbass ... about 25 years old. He was smart but he treated girls like toys. Sex was on his mind every xxxxing day. He brought pictures of his girlfriends from time to time and one day I saw a picture of a 14 year old on his computer screen by accident. I thought this was his relative, lol. I was wrong....he xxxxed her too. It's not surprising. When this guy was fifteen, he screwed his teacher in the living room while her 5 year old was sleeping in the other room. What do you expect from a person like this. Love? lol. Before and after I saw that 14 year old, I used to have serious discussions with him from time to time when I had some time on my hands, related to marriage, sex, etc. He knew I was serious and teased me sometimes when I talked about proper behavior, marriage, love, etc. He used to say "es vor tivna" or basically times have changed. My views never changed though even a bit and he realized that I could change him but he couldn't change me. That's the kind of discipline that I've gone through and I owe it only to my parents. Anyways, one day, I heard him speak about his girlfriend who he wanted to marry. I asked him if he would stop what he was doing and you know what he said? He said that he wouldn't. Then I asked how his wife would feel if she found out and he said that she's just a women and that she will never find out.....

    I rest me case!

    Now, I'm not saying that there are no such women with those characteristic amongst us but it'd be really good if we sometimes were more open, self-aware, conscious, self-critical and less self-absorbed and self-assured…
    Honey, what do you think we've been doing here all this time?

    So some are not repressed, they simply do not have that thing called charm.
    I think you just made an important discovery .........
    THE ROAD TO FREEDOM AND JUSTICE IS A LONG ONE!

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    • #202
      Re: Are Armenian women handicapped because of their upbringing?

      Yes Saco jan, I hear you loud and clear, and please do not misunderstand me; women are by no means all saints, I mean Armenian women
      Did I say all Armenian girls are Angels? All aren't of course but they are our girls and compared to girls around the world, they are Angels and should be respected by the Armenian populace. If they were being treated right, everything would be much better today so let's not blame them, people. It's starting to disgust me.

      but if you do a concesus vs. the Armenian men, you will find out that Armenian men do astray a greeeaaat deal more. And if some women that do astray it is because some Armenian men abuse the women by extremely alluring her and making her like a puppet to them - then they throw her away like a dirty rug.
      Read my above post! It proves your point.

      But the ones that don't fall into that crappy trap, these are the women that fight against those bad men and their bad habits with their good basic beliefs like a beautiful statue! These are the women that do win at the end, because when they look back they will see that they won over the bad with their good standing and they will feel deep respect towards themselves!!!!
      THESE are the Angels I talk about. They are the real Armenian women.

      Now about the men, or I should say Armenian men; at least after marriage they should stick with their wives good or bad and stick it out. Rather than continuing their cohabitating habits of the past.
      Nicely said. I completely agree.
      THE ROAD TO FREEDOM AND JUSTICE IS A LONG ONE!

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      • #203
        Re: Are Armenian women handicapped because of their upbringing?

        Originally posted by Anoush View Post
        No Saco jan, not with whoever they want. I don't think men or women should sleep with whoemever they want. But I gather a great deal of men doing that before they get married then it becomes a very bad habit for them and then they continue that bad habit after their marriage and they start screwing their wives and their CHILDREN royally by doing that. Because children feel very bad too - they feel they are rejected and then one day when they grow up they will do the same. The bad cycle will continue. I think that when a man and a woman fall in love they should first find out if they are really compatible to each other, "kaghaparagan antsik en adonk te voch" and then cohabitate and get married. Otherwise that union will not be heaven but HELL.

        I guess my comments above was an outbrust and anger towards our society's "double standard" that choose to give cart blanche to the men to cohabitate with as many women as they want before and after a marriage, then if a girl just flirts a little they "name call" her and say bad things about her and label her like she is sent from hell. It's very unjust and the "double standard" and the "unfairness" makes me throw up quite frankly!!!!
        Very well put! I agree with the above.

        Originally posted by KanadaHye View Post
        ...but I'll be routing for the flawless, charming, pretty sweet angels, lol.
        Good luck! But you'll have a difficult job.

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        • #204
          Re: Are Armenian women handicapped because of their upbringing?

          "I guess my comments above was an outbrust and anger towards our society's "double standard" that choose to give cart blanche to the men to cohabitate with as many women as they want before and after a marriage, then if a girl just flirts a little they "name call" her and say bad things about her and label her like she is sent from hell. It's very unjust and the "double standard" and the "unfairness" makes me throw up quite frankly"

          Feels good to get it out doesn't it?

          Ok, I'm getting a little tired of words like "our society" getting tossed around when it's NOT OUR SOCIETY. We've been hijacked by powers that don't want us (Armenians) to survive and as long as we sit here and pretend that 2 wrongs will make a right we will continue this cycle of misery.
          "Nobody can give you freedom. Nobody can give you equality or justice or anything. If you're a man, you take it." ~Malcolm X

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          • #205
            Re: Are Armenian women handicapped because of their upbringing?

            Originally posted by Lucin View Post
            Good luck! But you'll have a difficult job.
            Some of us are working on raising angels... so while some sit around waiting for the world to change, others are making it happen.
            "Nobody can give you freedom. Nobody can give you equality or justice or anything. If you're a man, you take it." ~Malcolm X

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            • #206
              Re: Are Armenian women handicapped because of their upbringing?

              Some of us are working on raising angels... so while some sit around waiting for the world to change, others are making it happen.
              Good point. Time for us to get married, bro !
              Last edited by Sako; 05-12-2009, 11:13 AM.
              THE ROAD TO FREEDOM AND JUSTICE IS A LONG ONE!

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              • #207
                Re: Are Armenian women handicapped because of their upbringing?

                Originally posted by Saco View Post
                Good point. Time to get married, bro !
                Its a dog eat dog world... and if I'm not working like a dog, then I'm dog tired. But you know the old saying... every dog has his day Lucky I have two monitors up so I can multitask between this forum and my job, lol.
                "Nobody can give you freedom. Nobody can give you equality or justice or anything. If you're a man, you take it." ~Malcolm X

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                • #208
                  Re: Are Armenian women handicapped because of their upbringing?

                  Its a dog eat dog world... and if I'm not working like a dog, then I'm dog tired. But you know the old saying... every dog has his day Lucky I have two monitors up so I can multitask between this forum and my job, lol.
                  Well that's functional !
                  THE ROAD TO FREEDOM AND JUSTICE IS A LONG ONE!

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                  • #209
                    Re: Are Armenian women handicapped because of their upbringing?

                    Originally posted by KanadaHye View Post
                    You're giving these men too much credit, their ego's can't handle real women so they go around finding women that don't require any effort.
                    Oh... that's just an excuse.

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                    • #210
                      Re: Are Armenian women handicapped because of their upbringing?

                      Originally posted by Anoush View Post
                      Oh... that's just an excuse.
                      "Nobody can give you freedom. Nobody can give you equality or justice or anything. If you're a man, you take it." ~Malcolm X

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