Eurovision

[Sako]

Re: Eurovision

Thanks for the effort!

Saco, I'm really not waiting to find holes in your posts at all, but it's better to quote references when posting, isn't it?

Some news doesn't air for a long time and when someone hears about it, you don't have to immediately doubt him/her. It's really that simple.

I'm sure you and I could get along if you were less sensitive to criticism, less likely to see criticism as a personal attack and less likely to personally attack in retaliation. You'll probably say that you've never got personal.

Keep your guess's to yourself, Hrai. I do get personal ... when required. Not all criticism is "constructive" and if you don't know that, you'll know soon enough.

We agree on many areas which concern this forum. We disagree on many others too. Your arguments will never change my mind or point of view, not necessarily the content but the way you present it.

I'll work on that and you work on not misunderstanding me like you have on countless occasions.

As a person, I'm sure you've got the best of intentions BUT, you are intolerant to opposing views,quick-tempered and impetuous.............mmmm typical Armenian.

Perhaps. Mostly depends on the views and the person presenting them...

So, my word......I do not wait for holes, for a while now I promise if I see some, I'll ignore them!

If you find any holes that is...Till now, you haven't shown me those holes. I promise to ignore that fact for a little while.

[merhayrenik]

Re: Eurovision

EV is lame, nobody can sing. The song representing Armenia sucked it's a wonder they were 10th on the list. None of the singers did well NONE. It was overly gay and lame. EV is not what it used to be 30 years ago, so whatever the result I don't care. But something else happened that I found very good, the monuments scandal was excellent and Sirusho did an excellent job holding those photos.

[Hellektor]

Re: Eurovision

I understand that Atropat is the name of a General or Warrior and the land was named after him. I also understand that Atropatekan means land that (belongs to or attributed to) Atropat. Unless you make that distinction, going directly from Azarbaijan to "Land of Atropat" wouldn't make sense unless you explain the history.

You even broke down the meaning of Atropat with relation to FIRE and you're rejecting your own claim for the sole purpose of distinguishing the differences between historical territories. Teaching history and changing language which many people currently understand it to be just to accomodate history doesn't make sense to me even if the language was changed to distort history. You have to be entirely TRANSPARENT if you want to uncover the truth.

Your entire explanation for how Azarbaijan got named isn't in question... but your constant assertion that it has nothing to do with fire from a linguistic point of view is senseless unless you explain the history. I don't deny that Azarbaijan is a fabricated state that didn't exist prior to 1918.

The whole passage above is full of fallacious argumentation, circumventing the issue, sophistry and nothing else. You desperately try to avoid the question and you even avoided to cut the crap that I had ask you to: are you a Turk?

You are trying to discard irrefutable historical facts coming from thousands of years and confirmed by countless historians from any given nation, creed, civilization who wrote about the region, and give credence to historic falsifications concocted in the mid 20th century by pan-Turkist distorians of the caliber of Ziya Bunyatov.

I refuse to buy what you are selling. History is relevant, more so when the genocidal, murderous, destructive falsifiers are avoiding it for the purpose of legitimizing their evil, pan-Turkist goals. You are feeding the genocidal savages by discarding historic facts and stubbornly yet desperately trying to draw me in a futile “discussion” about a more futile issue.

The use of the maliciously fabricated term “Land of Fire” by the genocidal, warmongering Tatars of yesterday and “Azeris” of today is to serve their pan-Turkist agenda and I will fight it and I'll refuse to give legitimacy to it by buying this stinking, rotten garbage you are hopelessly trying to sell me. I have responded clearly, amply and with foolproof examples that what you claim is total Azercowdung and I will refrain from discussing it further.

I will not go further into this and I won't reply any of your fallacious posts regarding this issue, because it has been proved to me you are part of the clan that feeds the pan-Turkist agenda. Don't think by replying this you will be the one who said the last word.

[Hellektor]

Re: Eurovision

Thank you Hellektor for the explanation, I had read this by the way in your 'thingy'. I should have been more careful with the nuances...

Thanks dear for having spent the time reading the thingy! Yet I don't remember where it was that you weren't “careful with the nuances”, you must be talking about a post I have missed.

[KanadaHye]

Re: Eurovision

The whole passage above is full of fallacious argumentation, circumventing the issue, sophistry and nothing else. You desperately try to avoid the question and you even avoided to cut the crap that I had ask you to: are you a Turk?

I might become one if you keep insisting that I am.

[Hellektor]

Attention Mods!

Dear mods,

In the past, many a thread has been removed because a number of users started to get personal. Given the time I put in typing my long posts, I constantly come across a decrease of my post count by 20 or 30 when a thread like this disappears because some users start getting personal.

If you are trying to clean up a thread from personal abuse, please don't delete or close the whole thread and just address the users/posts with personal abuse.

Thanks in advance

[Gavur]

Re: Eurovision

Much yev Saco, yerguknida yergiraserek.Iraruyet ters yertalu badjarmi bedk che ella.Chi vaylergo tsezi.

[KanadaHye]

Re: Eurovision

Much yev Saco, yerguknida yergiraserek.Iraruyet ters yertalu badjarmi bedk che ella.Chi vaylergo tsezi.

I agree with Hellektor, he has posted some very important information in this thread and some harmless words between members shouldn't discount his posts.

[Siggie]

Re: Attention Mods!

Dear mods,

In the past, many a thread has been removed because a number of users started to get personal. Given the time I put in typing my long posts, I constantly come across a decrease of my post count by 20 or 30 when a thread like this disappears because some users start getting personal.

If you are trying to clean up a thread from personal abuse, please don't delete or close the whole thread and just address the users/posts with personal abuse.

Thanks in advance

You should have contacted us rather than posting in this in a thread and hoping we find it.
Threads sometimes need to be closed (and that doesn't affect your post count or whether you can read it), but certainly if it's an issue of deleting we do try to salvage what we can of a thread rather than deleting it. Now, if you post something that breaks the rules, then we cannot always go through and edit your post to remove that content.

On a related note, you're complaining about these other users getting personal, etc., however a couple posts up, you insult KanadaHye by asking him if he's a Turk. Clearly, you know that an Armenian would find that insulting or you would not have said it. That is itself a violation of the rules. Now if insults like that were buried throughout your post, the moderators can't be expected to spend the kind of time it takes to edit out all the offending parts.

Do NOT reply to this post here... I am making a copy of your request and reply in the Support Section and you can reply there by following the link below.

http://forum.hyeclub.com/showthread.php?t=16776

[Lucin]

Re: Eurovision

I agree with Hellektor, he has posted some very important information in this thread and some harmless words between members shouldn't discount his posts.

I agree with you and I appreciate your spirit.