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Inter Racial Armenians-Blacks Families: (Small?) Bridges To The Important Black World

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  • Re: Inter Racial Armenians-Blacks Families: (Small?) Bridges To The Important Black W

    Originally posted by arakeretzig View Post
    Actually, If you're relatively rich, Armenia is nice to live in. I know atleast 2 diaspora families from Iraq that moved there and will stay there. One of them started a buss company, that travels to Arstakh and around Armenia. They can easily buy an appartment, get a 10 year living permit, and open a business, corporate income tax is just 12%. And if you want to live in Artsakh, land is practically free. But agree, if you dont have money and want to search for work, it sucks.
    If you're relatively rich, there are better parts of the world to live in.... but like Grandma used to say "baderast teram shud ge lemena" Question is, is it a good place to START a family. Would you want your children to be Armenian citizens?
    "Nobody can give you freedom. Nobody can give you equality or justice or anything. If you're a man, you take it." ~Malcolm X

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    • Re: Inter Racial Armenians-Blacks Families: (Small?) Bridges To The Important Black W

      Originally posted by KanadaHye View Post
      If you're relatively rich, there are better parts of the world to live in.... but like Grandma used to say "baderast teram shud ge lemena" Question is, is it a good place to START a family. Would you want your children to be Armenian citizens?
      Absolutely.
      IF i was relatively wealthy i'd move there in a heart beat. Starting a family abroad, there's a good chance your children will eventually assimilate. My best friend moved there not too long ago, and his family is relatively well off, so i kind of envy him
      Until I win a lottery , I'm stuck in sweden.
      Last edited by arakeretzig; 09-16-2010, 09:57 AM.

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      • Re: Inter Racial Armenians-Blacks Families: (Small?) Bridges To The Important Black W

        Originally posted by freakyfreaky View Post
        Hmm, how about economy, business opportunities, limits on constitutional rights of immigrants and oh yeah and an oppressive government --did I mention inflation and shortage of resources.
        So that above covers Europe and the USofA........


        Also, you can't really eat sushi if it ain't fresh. Any sushi restaurants in Yerevan.

        Silotka and vodka!!!! Not very exciting.
        I've eaten sushi in Yerevan once, but who wants imported menus?????

        Fresh lavash & herbs, five-finger bread & cheese, matzoon, shashlik til you can't move, oh, yeah and vodka too.

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        • Re: Inter Racial Armenians-Blacks Families: (Small?) Bridges To The Important Black W

          Originally posted by ara87 View Post
          one of the reasons I will never move to Armenia, or places like Japan is b/c I don't mono-ethnic societies, something about the lack of diversity bothers me.

          It would bother me less of course if the nation in question didn't appear to be so racist but unfortunately whether it's rampant in Armenia or not, there's always an article popping up about how there's racist graffiti in Yerevan against blacks and j ews.

          Maybe I can understand the resentment toward j ews since Israel is more or less still allied with Turkey, and still won't recognize the genocide. And given the close proximity of the 2 countries, maybe some Hayastancis have even met some Israelis and had a bad experience, to merit those feelings toward them.

          But how many Armenians in Armenia have ever met a black person? What right do they have to make any remark against a black person? Seeing some black American rapper online or on the tv does not count, they don't represent every black person in the world.

          A lot of Armenians are bytching about Kim Kardashian and her black boyfriends.. who gives a crap? She's already mixed, and probably wouldn't raise her kids Armenian anyways, since she never was. Also, no armo seems to bytch that her sister had a baby with a white guy out of wedlock, but wait let me guess that's ok b/c Armenians are sooo white, and having lighter kids is always a plus.

          Well a pale skinned, blonde haired, blue eyed kid doesn't look any more Armenian than a half black kid, so I don't see why it should be any different, he'd probably have just as much Armenian DNA as a Blonde haired, Blue Eyed, armenian kid.

          Personally I think if there's a half black half Armenian kid who was raised in Armenia and speaks Armenian, and partakes in the culture, etc, he's already way more Armenian than most diasporan Armenians, many of whom can't read or speak Armenian, and don't know anything about our history before 1915.

          Chances also are that the little half black kid who was raised in Armenia would listen to mainstream Armenian music, and does things other little Armenian boys and girls do, unlike returning diasporans would bring in evil things like heavy metal, gansta rap, pizza, condoms, premarital sex, marijuana and western values to corrupt the haystanci youth

          so don't bytch about the black kid, or interracial marriages destroying the Armenian population, concentrate on the Armenian couples that get married and have 0-2 kids, or the fact that jobs in Armenia suck so bad that people still have to leave to find better lives elsewhere, increasing the chances that they'll stay elsewhere and either not marry an armo, or that if they ever have kids, those kids will be assimilated into whatever other culture they're living in.

          And if you are going to bytch about interracial marriages give the Armo chicks a rest, there's plenty of Armo guys who have kids with women of other races
          This is a good post!
          As for living in Hayastan i myself would love to do just that but again i am not rich so i would need a way to support my family. Armenia actually has things to offer which are not available here in the USA. Besides great food it has restaurants that do not close at night and the waiter who will not only bring you your food but will get the cab and anything else you could possibly want. Great food and service are just the a small part, Armenia sits on the crossroad between europe, middle east, asia and you can find things there from all these other places, things which you wont find even in America (of course the opposite is true as well). Racism unfortunately is there to as it is in this forum but again no reason to single out armenians as racists since pretty much all countries and ethnicities revel in it. I have seen half black half armenians and i have seen a fully black young man who was fluent in Armenian and it made me feel wonderful that our languadge and culture can take root in the most unlikeliest places and people. Blacks are people to and like all other people there are plenty of bad and good ones out there.
          Hayastan or Bust.

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          • Re: Inter Racial Armenians-Blacks Families: (Small?) Bridges To The Important Black W

            Originally posted by ara87 View Post

            Chances also are that the little half black kid who was raised in Armenia would listen to mainstream Armenian music, and does things other little Armenian boys and girls do, unlike returning diasporans would bring in evil things like heavy metal, gansta rap, pizza, condoms, premarital sex, marijuana and western values to corrupt the haystanci youth
            consensual premarital sex is evil? HAHAHA, who is being oppressive here? I guess you'd rather encourage prostitution instead? There's no place for islamic bullcrap in Armenia.
            Last edited by arakeretzig; 09-16-2010, 01:30 PM.

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            • Re: Inter Racial Armenians-Blacks Families: (Small?) Bridges To The Important Black W

              Originally posted by arakeretzig View Post
              consensual premarital sex is evil? HAHAHA, who is being oppressive here? I guess you'd rather encourage prostitution instead? There's no place for islamic bullcrap in Armenia.
              No, marriage is evil... I wouldn't mind some islamic laws... like 3 or 4 wives isn't a bad idea. Perhaps 7, one for each day of the week.

              Figure out how much time and money is spent on premarital endeavours... then realize that a woman will only get married when she starts losing her beauty, in other words when she can't play seductress anymore.... at that point who wants to work to support a washed up has been. Prostitution comes in many forms and isn't just applicable to the female gender. Men can play the same game and can out last women since they don't age as fast.

              Getting back to the topic... why do people want to assimilate Africans into Armenian society?
              Last edited by KanadaHye; 09-16-2010, 01:54 PM.
              "Nobody can give you freedom. Nobody can give you equality or justice or anything. If you're a man, you take it." ~Malcolm X

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              • Re: Inter Racial Armenians-Blacks Families: (Small?) Bridges To The Important Black W

                Originally posted by KanadaHye View Post
                No, marriage is evil... I wouldn't mind some islamic laws... like 3 or 4 wives isn't a bad idea. Perhaps 7, one for each day of the week.
                I think I can imagine how hell looks like now

                Getting back to the topic... why do people want to assimilate Africans into Armenian society?
                My guess is, for some reason people think diversity will benefit society and Armenians are starting to get these ideas from Europeans. Tolerance, Diversity, multicultural enrichment, with all that entails.
                Last edited by arakeretzig; 09-16-2010, 02:00 PM.

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                • Re: Inter Racial Armenians-Blacks Families: (Small?) Bridges To The Important Black W

                  Originally posted by arakeretzig View Post
                  I think I can imagine how hell looks like now
                  Ideally all on different cycles...
                  "Nobody can give you freedom. Nobody can give you equality or justice or anything. If you're a man, you take it." ~Malcolm X

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                  • Re: Inter Racial Armenians-Blacks Families: (Small?) Bridges To The Important Black W

                    Originally posted by arakeretzig View Post
                    My guess is, for some reason people think diversity will benefit society and Armenians are starting to get these ideas from Europeans. Tolerance, Diversity, multicultural enrichment, with all that entails.
                    If it happens naturally that's one thing but it seems to me it's politically endorsed.
                    "Nobody can give you freedom. Nobody can give you equality or justice or anything. If you're a man, you take it." ~Malcolm X

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                    • Re: Inter Racial Armenians-Blacks Families: (Small?) Bridges To The Important Black W

                      hrai, I deleted two of your previous posts above because they were openly insulting, hostile and badgering another member for their differing opinions. Apparently you don't like it when people disagree with you. Just keep it cool.
                      Achkerov kute.

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