Armenia stands today because of Iran?

[Mos]

Re: Armenia stands today because of Iran?

its racism.if someone wants to be armenian he already is if he accepts our culture then we must accept him.specially if he is a neighbor having the same race with us genetically
so you hate all half armenians in russia? cause there are a lot of them in there

i dont know if you have seen Tehran or not and how peacefully armenians and persians live together,marry together and in most of them armenians boys marry persian girls.so its not the fcuk you were talking about.i personally find persian gilrs hot.so do you like them to act like you and be raciest and kick you out of their country?

well, I would not go around corrupting their people and society there. I would have some decency. Plus, Persian women rarely marry outside of their religion or race. So very rarely is it that Armenian men marry that way.

[Tigranakert]

Re: Armenia stands today because of Iran?

I do not agree with ‘we are all humans first’ and everything else second. I would love to think that way, but history has shown we can not live in peace like that. If we want an independent country, if we want to exist in the future, we can not live with that mentality. I am an Armenian, something what makes me proud. We have different norms and values.

I am not against half-Armenians, I sketch the best situation, that is that it would be the best thing if in our culture, we would prefer to marry Armenians and we would strive for that. Of course there will be exceptions, but if we were ‘totally’ free and everything was accepted, it would no longer be an exception but a common thing (we are also in a different situation compared to other countries in the world, if 10-20 million Armenians lived in Armenia today and Armenia was in no danger of extinction, I would not mind if in the Armenian Diaspora everyone married muslims, non-Armenians, negros, but the situation now is that we have an enormous population shortage and we need all the Armenians we can preserve).

Again, I am against the ‘racist’ word. I find the Republic of Armenia more important than individuals. Also, what I pointed, assimilation is on the rise in Iran, we did not see mixed-marriages ten, twenty years ago but it is now more common, and believe me the Armenian community will within decades stop to exist.

You can like it, but it remains a fact that we are losing our Armenian identity (maintained for four hundred years) because people like ‘hot Iranian girls and boys’ and ‘we are all one, human’ principle.

We must have our own Armenian system, and not a Western fake ‘democracy’ system, something like Singapore has.

[Tigranakert]

Re: Armenia stands today because of Iran?

A time ago there was a large survey about the Armenian community in the Netherlands. Of the old generation, about 25% married a non-Armenian. With the new generation, this would be about 50%, and in the generation to come, more than presumably 50%.

[Parskahay]

Re: Armenia stands today because of Iran?

well, I would not go around corrupting their people and society there. I would have some decency. Plus, Persian women rarely marry outside of their religion or race. So very rarely is it that Armenian men marry that way.

majority of Tehran have changed in this decade.they dont have raciest and religious ideas anymore.you can see that in the protests
btw i dont like iranians.its the Persians we are talking about.people in iran who speak farsi.cause they are more trustworthy than anyone in iran
its the beliefs that make the nations not their genetic race.if a persian man marries an armenian woman and via versa and this couple come and live in armenia and they raise 2-3 children who learn armenian and learn our culture and also grow up and marry in armenia that would really help to increasing our population.the couple and their children are ARMENIAN not because of their race because they want to be armenian

[Parskahay]

Re: Armenia stands today because of Iran?

go and see this thread.how persians recognize the armenian genocide and they helped me and 2 of my friends to create a website about armenian genocide and also translate it to Farsi so all iranians can understand it

http://forum.hyeclub.com/showthread.php?t=18217

[Tigranakert]

Re: Armenia stands today because of Iran?

You are talking about individuel (rare) cases. Also, an Iranian (muslim) could marry an Armenian women, forcing her to forget her Armenian identity and demand that she must wear a veil.

If you marry a non-Armenian, chances will be big you or your children will assimilate and end up forgetting their Armenian heritage.

We must strive to prevent assimilation. The j-e-w-s have found a very good solution to this, they have their own religion. Armenians assimilate much faster because we tend to say ''they are Christian too, they are a human too'', whereas j-e-w-s have just one religion, one country.

Perfect!

Parskahay, we do not need the help of Iranians to help our Armenian women to get pregnant. We can have economic/political relationships, but mixing our cultures is not a good idea, and never will be.

[KanadaHye]

Re: Armenia stands today because of Iran?

Parskahay, we do not need the help of Iranians to help our Armenian women to get pregnant. We can have economic/political relationships, but mixing our cultures is not a good idea, and never will be.

Yeah... there are plenty of willing and able Armenian men for that role
P.S. Most people don't see just how important it is to have common cultures until there is a child in the picture.

Curtailing individual freedoms by way of imposing limitations based on what a person may or may not do, and enforcing individual freedom of association, is one step away from saying that the nation should have one government, one party, one fuhrer who should decide who may do what. Similarly Capitalism is eating at Armenia, ask the average Armenian how great pay is living in Yerevan where bosses can delay payments for weeks due to the greatness of Western Economic Freedom.

Bottom line is, when it affects society as a whole in areas of trade, security, etc. then it's the state's right to interfere, in a person's private life unless they are doing grievious mental, or physical harm to themselves or others, the government's gotta f**k off

Which government isn't involved in a person's private life?!? Marriage certificate is a LEGAL document. The courts pretty much control every aspect of a person's life. Birth certificate... LEGAL document. Death certificate... LEGAL document. Passport.. LEGAL document.

[Haykakan]

Re: Armenia stands today because of Iran?

Tigran there you go again with your glaring contradictions. We need to keep persian influence out but by all means lets copy the racist-narcistic xxxish influence. You gotta be kidding me. Have you guys ever considered for a moment that the reason armenian girls pick others instead of you is because your racist hypocrits? The xxxs were involved in our own destruction while Iran has been a great help to us yet you villify Iran and prop up the one trying to kill you.

[KanadaHye]

Re: Armenia stands today because of Iran?

Tigran there you go again with your glaring contradictions. We need to keep persian influence out but by all means lets copy the racist-narcistic xxxish influence. You gotta be kidding me. Have you guys ever considered for a moment that the reason armenian girls pick others instead of you is because your racist hypocrits? The xxxs were involved in our own destruction while Iran has been a great help to us yet you villify Iran and prop up the one trying to kill you.

No, it's because many of the girls are influenced by pop culture which distinctly promotes the opposite of Armenian culture. They aren't villiying Iran, they are saying that many Iranians that come to Armenia are like Americans that go to Cancun. Good for the economy but bad for the local culture.

[Tigranakert]

Re: Armenia stands today because of Iran?

Tigran there you go again with your glaring contradictions. We need to keep persian influence out but by all means lets copy the racist-narcistic xxxish influence. You gotta be kidding me. Have you guys ever considered for a moment that the reason armenian girls pick others instead of you is because your racist hypocrits? The xxxs were involved in our own destruction while Iran has been a great help to us yet you villify Iran and prop up the one trying to kill you.

I do not say we must copy the j-e-w-i-s-h influence, I just mention the way they are preventing their culture/ideology/norms/values to fall apart, just as I mentioned the Singaporian system.

Armenian girls (or boys) pick others because they are influenced by the Western culture, which KanadaHye mentioned is totally opposite of our Armenian culture.

If Armenia had a population of over 20 million, we would not have a population shortage and would not have to worry about assimilation, but if you like it or not, we are in a difficult situation not comparable to other countries.

Assimilation is one of thé greatest threats today for us Armenians.

By the way, I am not only against ''Persian social influence'' but also against too much Western (pop) influence.