I never hear anything about the Armenian Quarter in Jerusalem...

[KanadaHye]

Re: I never hear anything about the Armenian Quarter in Jerusalem...

You guys should do well working for www.today.az , they too have another view of the world history and politics.

[Mos]

Re: I never hear anything about the Armenian Quarter in Jerusalem...

Thank you for showing that you know nothing about the history of Armenia. It was the France who have betrayed us NUMEROUS times, also in Cilicia. But ofcourse, you can not know this European-loving person.

And again thank you to show how ignorant you are by constantly mentioning the stupid recognition of the Armenian genocide in European countries. THIS DOES NOT MEAN ANY xxxx!. Genocide recognition this, genocide recognition that, as if that's the only thing they can do. It's all about their ACTIONS not their WORDS.

Europe is the biggest trading parnter for most of the countries in the world, it has no meaning, especially for a small country as Armenia. Ofcourse they buy some stones and diamonds from Armenia, it's not hard to be the ''biggest'' economic partner (which Russia is).

It's foolish to say Europe is good for us, that's what I want to counter. I have numerous times mentoined we need to have good relations with ALL the countries on the world, it was you who was talking bullxxxx about muslim countries and are wanting to create an image as if Europe has supported us the past decades, wake up, they did not.

Again, during the war only Iran and Russia supported Armenia. European countries (Great Brittain) and Israel supported Azerbaijan.

No country is to be trusted, none of the countries is better than the other, don't play the ''muslim'' card. The fact is, we have had much more support from Iran, Syria, India, Russia than we had from Great Brittain, Israel and other European countries during the past years.

I will keep reminding you that Israel has sent millions of dollars of armament to Azerbaijan during the war which killed far more Armenians than did the ''mujahedeen''.

They are not Azeri, most of them are Persians who speak Turkish and think they are Azeri, (get your facts straight) it is up to the Iranian government (who are ''Azeris'', and still support Armenia) to counter the Turkish propaganda, and they succeed. It is more likely for Iran to take over fake Azerbaijan than vice-versa (as you can see lately with the Sjiit mullahs taking over Republic of Azergayjan).

You are totally misinformed in every aspect. Discussing with you is useless, you dissapoint me I thought you had the basic knowledge of the region. You live in another world than us.

How about how France helped us during Genocide? Are you just going to ignore that? I suggest you get familiar with The Forty Days of Musa Dagh. A great work.

So no country should recognize Armenian Genocide, just because it's only words? I bet if your mother country Iran recognized Genocide and European countries didn't you would rush to say how good Iran is for recognizing the Genocide and how important Genocide recognition is. The fact the most countries that have recognized Armenian Genocide are from Europe, and that means they have had the guts to stand up to Turkey. Countries like France and Netherlands have even gone as far as to criminalize the denial of Armenian Genocide! European countries as a whole are more pro-Armenian than Muslim countries. You may also not understand how much economic help has come to Europe from Armenia. But of course you ignore this as well.

So what's next Armenia should be allies with al-Qaeda? I would expect such a idiotic statement from you. And I can't believe that you are so enthusiastic about kissing the ass of every Muslim? It's really disgusting and embarrassing, given the fact so many Armenians died for being Christian and refusing to convert to Islam during the Genocide and also massacres before. You should be ashamed of yourself.

Let's see what a one influential religious leader in Iran thinks of Karabakh,

The OSCE couldn’t establish peace between Armenia and Azerbaijan through years, imam of the Iranian province of Ardabil, Seyyed Hasan Ameli, said on April 23, in his Friday prayer sermons, with the Azerbaijani Ambassador to Iran Javanshir Akhundov and Azerbaijan’s Islamic leader Haj Ali Akramov present, Gafgaz.ir reported quoting FARS agency.

Iran has offered mediation to Armenia and Azerbaijan and Armenia doesn’t accept Iran’s amiable offer, while Baku does, he said.

Touching upon the regional conflicts and ruling out the participation of out-of-regional forces in their settlement, imam of Ardabil highlighted that Nagorno-Karabakh should become part of Azerbaijan, the Armenians should vanish from the territories and “Allah O Akbar” should be heard again in the mosques.

He extended hope that the neighbors of Iran will refuse the patronage of the U.S. and Israel and will go towards peace and friendship as well as that Karabakh will be returned to Azerbaijan and will be cleaned of "dirty Armenians".

I don't know if your a troll, or a Turk. Given from what I've read your most likely a Turk so please Turk don't get involved in Armenian affairs.

[Muhaha]

Re: I never hear anything about the Armenian Quarter in Jerusalem...

Yeah.... try reading more and watching less Zionist propaganda.

Yeah, if somebody disagrees with you, they MUST be misinformed and brainwashed. Btw, have you considered the possibility that wherever you're getting your information from is propaganda from the other side? I guess that's impossible though, for a man of your exceptional intelligence.

Once Israel is broken and the Palestinians are treated justly, Armenia will flourish.

Elaborate.

[Davo88]

Re: I never hear anything about the Armenian Quarter in Jerusalem...

Mos, what Tigranakert was talking about is the French administration in Cilicia after the Armenian genocide. At that time, Western powers carved up Turkey and more than 170,000 Armenians were repatriated to Cilicia. The French ended up ceding Cilicia to Turkey in order to gain their favor...

I CAN NOT BELIEVE YOU ARE SAYING THIS. Thank you for showing your lack of knowledge, IT WAS THE MARONITES (CHRISTIANS) WHO WERE DISCRIMINATING THE ARMENIANS, NOT THE MUSLIMS. THE PALESTENIANS SUPPORTED THE ARMENIANS DURING THE WAR. It were the Maronites who were causing the problems for Armenians, I have a lot of friends from Lebanon and the problem was not the Palestinians. The level of this forum is not what is used to be...

Well said. Armenians had to face a major Maronite Christian militia during most of the 1975-1990 civil war just because we wanted to remain neutral. Christians there are still divided between pro-Syrian and anti-Syrian camps.

[Mos]

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I hate Islam. It's because of that religion that 1.5 million of our people died....and straight from the Qoran it is said to kill the "infidels", anybody not believing in their Allah. All the Ottomans, Kurds were doing was following their religion.

[gunther]

Re: I never hear anything about the Armenian Quarter in Jerusalem...

I hate Islam. It's because of that religion that 1.5 million of our people died....and straight from the Qoran it is said to kill the "infidels", anybody not believing in their Allah. All the Ottomans, Kurds were doing was following their religion.

Exactly right. Let me just quote the Quran for the skeptics and all the other muslim-loving traitors who call themselves "Armenian".


Qur'an (5:51) - "O you who believe! do not take the xxxs and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people."

[KanadaHye]

Re: I never hear anything about the Armenian Quarter in Jerusalem...

Elaborate.

Israel is selling weapons to Azerbaijan.

Sanctions on Iran are making things even harder on Armenia since the two economies and intermingled.

Israel had already taken control of Georgia until Russia put a stop to their plans. Something about a 10th century Empire called Khazaria. If you google Khazaria, you'll see that it's right where Georgia is today. Although today, this was more of Israel wanting to surround Russia. Israel lost this battle since Russia protects the minority populations like the Abkhazians or the Ossetians since it gives them a buffer. If it weren't for the Israeli influence in Georgia, Armenia could have better relations with Georgia and more reliable access to the sea. One of Armenia's biggest problems is that it's land locked. How does it make sense that Georgia supports Azerbaijan over Armenia?

Georgians have sympathized with Azerbaijan's position in the conflict between Armenia and Azerbaijan over the ethnic Armenian enclave of Nagorno-Karabakh because of similarities to Georgia's internal problems with Abkhazia and South Ossetia. Both countries cite the principle of "inviolability of state borders" in defending national interests against claims by ethnic minorities.

Those are just a couple things that Israel has done to make things harder for Armenia, I'm sure we can come up with more.

This is why I say that Israel needs to be broken/weakened in order to diminish it's negative influence on Armenia.

Oh, here's a video about Armenians in Jerusalem.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lxm7yWgZiJM

[Haykakan]

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The way religion forms a dividing barrier among people is very evident here and is exactly why i hate all religions. Some here are so brainwashed that they will not entertain the possibility of friendship with anyone who is muslim but the funny thing is it is ok to befriend a zionist in their mind. What makes it even more of a lunacy is that some here will take sides with the very people (zionists) who have been and still are trying to deny us justice and are actively supporting our mortal enemies. Yeh i hate religion and i sure as hell do not like theocracies like Iran nor would i like a chrystian theocracy nor a zionist one but facts remain facts-it was the muslim nations that took in our refugees after the genocide. It was in these muslim countries that the Armenian diaspora prospered and flurished. It was a muslim country (Iran) that allowed Armenia to survive during the war. When the chrystian georgians cut off gas supplies to our country it was the Iranians that brought in gas. Instead of making conclusions using the dim wittted corners of your minds try to look at the reality that is playing out in front of your eyes instead. Russia is our only hope and Iran is the only thing that comes close to a friend for Armenia when it comes to international politics while isreal has never done a single thing for Hayastan but has worked and still does work against our country and people. These are the facts-not some delusional comments.

[Eddo211]

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Islam by itself is inherently anti-Christian Armenian..........this doesn’t mean though Muslim countries or their people are all against Armenians, as we know Armenians do good in Muslim countries and many are patriots of their host country.

I personally have strong feelings about Iran and Iranians (but hate the Mullah’s regime) and they don’t buy into Turkish and Azeri bulldust and how they support Armenia, however when it really comes down to picking between a "blood drinking Jesus worshiper" to a brother Muslim Turk we loose most of the time especially now that good relations with Turkey is in their national interest and that they have been fooled to think Turkey really cares for Palestinians and can be a partner against Israel.

I have nothing against Islam, I do respect it as a major religion…….however I don’t trust Islam, it can go militant overnight on you.

[KanadaHye]

Re: I never hear anything about the Armenian Quarter in Jerusalem...

Well, anyone else find it odd that there is a quarter for all three major religions but Armenians have their own quarter in the holy land? We must be more special than we give ourselves credit for