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I never hear anything about the Armenian Quarter in Jerusalem...

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  • #81
    Re: I never hear anything about the Armenian Quarter in Jerusalem...

    Originally posted by Muhaha View Post
    As opposed to you, who pretends Israel is the only one who's doing anything wrong in the conflict.
    If anyone can argue what either I or Tigranakert or Haykakan have wrote then speak up. All I hear is "muslims are bad", they want to kill everybody whaaaaa, they are all terrorists.
    Last edited by KanadaHye; 06-15-2010, 01:42 AM.
    "Nobody can give you freedom. Nobody can give you equality or justice or anything. If you're a man, you take it." ~Malcolm X

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    • #82
      Re: I never hear anything about the Armenian Quarter in Jerusalem...

      All I hear is "Israelis are bad, they want to kill everybody whaaaaa, they are all terrorists".

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      • #83
        Re: I never hear anything about the Armenian Quarter in Jerusalem...

        What a childish discussion, KanadaHye as we have seen they can not bring any arguments and do not react on our posts, they just shout for themselves and have a wrong knowledge of especially Armenian history (so they ignore their mistakes, like ''maronites were good for the Armenians'').

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        • #84
          Re: I never hear anything about the Armenian Quarter in Jerusalem...

          Originally posted by Tigranakert View Post
          What a childish discussion, KanadaHye as we have seen they can not bring any arguments and do not react on our posts, they just shout for themselves and have a wrong knowledge of especially Armenian history (so they ignore their mistakes, like ''maronites were good for the Armenians'').
          I started this thread hoping to discuss the Armenian Quarter and the Anti-Israel users derailed it and turned it into just another "Israel" thread. Look at the first page, KanadaHye is the one who comes in with the silly/inappropriate/hypocritical comments.





          Originally posted by KanadaHye View Post
          Is this the thread where we discuss taking over Israel?

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          • #85
            Re: I never hear anything about the Armenian Quarter in Jerusalem...

            You can't change the topic of the discussion and completely destroy the original intent of the thread(Which was me trying to talk about Armenians in Jerusalem) and then at the same time complain about the other users and the OP.

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            • #86
              Re: I never hear anything about the Armenian Quarter in Jerusalem...

              I have a friend from Old Jerusalem, he says:
              I would have you know that the Israeli government has a university program to encourage Armenians (Israeli born) to study, and has scholarships for Armenians (recognizing their suffering in their holocaust).

              so as you can see they are not very bad at all,Dont get me wrong, religious Jevvs are a pain in the butt and they suck in general, but going from there to what you said is a long way, also isolated incidents dont relfect on the whole population. Just like if in Spain people violated a synagogue I wouldent say Spain is antisemitic. Some people are just xxxxxxxs.
              Last edited by Parskahay; 06-15-2010, 06:40 AM.

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              • #87
                Re: I never hear anything about the Armenian Quarter in Jerusalem...

                Getting back to the discussion at hand. I think its neat that Armenians have their own quarter. How come the Greek Orthodox, and the Catholics (among others) didn't get theirs.

                I have never heard of any complaints by Armenians in Jerusalem except for several incidents which involved "ultra Orthodox xxxs" spitting at a priest. That happened several; years ago, it was condemned by all the xxxish denominations (including the ultra orthodox one) and hasn't recurred since. But back to my question...

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                • #88
                  Re: I never hear anything about the Armenian Quarter in Jerusalem...

                  Originally posted by gunther View Post
                  Getting back to the discussion at hand. I think its neat that Armenians have their own quarter. How come the Greek Orthodox, and the Catholics (among others) didn't get theirs.

                  I have never heard of any complaints by Armenians in Jerusalem except for several incidents which involved "ultra Orthodox xxxs" spitting at a priest. That happened several; years ago, it was condemned by all the xxxish denominations (including the ultra orthodox one) and hasn't recurred since. But back to my question...
                  The story of the claim to Armenian Quarter starts with King Tigranes II in 95 BC and ends with some upper room in a house on mount Zion that was used as a church in 301 AD, hence the valid claim...............where now St James Cathedral stands.
                  Armenian Quarter is known to be the oldest, but in decline.
                  B0zkurt Hunter

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                  • #89
                    Re: I never hear anything about the Armenian Quarter in Jerusalem...

                    It must be because the Armenians of the Middle-East preferred to live together in their own agglomerations near their distinct church, whereas other Christians of Jerusalem mingled together regardless of their nationalities.

                    It may have also been a tactic used by Muslim rulers of Jerusalem to reduce the Christian presence by separating the Armenians from the rest.

                    This is from Wikipedia:

                    "One of the central reasons for the existence of an Armenian quarter is the religion and ethnicity of the Armenians. Armenians, unlike the majority of Christians in Israel, are not Arab, rather they are ethnically and religiously Armenian. The reason for their ethnicity does not need to be elaborated on except to say that they have remained a homogeneous group, intermarrying over the years and keeping their culture intact."

                    Who knows.

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                    • #90
                      Re: I never hear anything about the Armenian Quarter in Jerusalem...

                      The Armenians claim a presence in Jerusalem since the first century when an Armenian battalion fought under the Roman emperor Titus. The Armenians adopted Christianity as their official religion in 286 C.E., even before the Romans and, for the last 1,700 years, have been ensconced in Jerusalem, frequently finding themselves between warring factions. The Armenian Quarter was established in the 14th century.

                      The Armenians are not Palestinians, but they generally sympathize with their political agenda (See Muhaha ), although the Armenians have not supported the idea of Palestinian control over the Old City. In fact, during the Camp David Summit, leaders of the Armenian church insisted the Christian and Armenian Quarters were inseparable and expressed their preference for international guarantees.

                      The Armenian section is almost a city within the city. The walled compound surrounds the Church of St. James, the Convent of the Olive Tree, the Armenian Patriarch residency, a monastery and a number of shops.

                      The St. James Monastery, which takes up about two-thirds of the quarter, houses gifts left by pilgrims over the last 1,000 years. It also includes a quiet residential area. The Gulbenkian Library is also inside the monastery. It holds more than 100,000 volumes, many dating back hundreds of years. The Mardigian Museum is nearby and it contains exhibits on Armenian art and culture and the genocide of 1915.

                      Oddly enough, only one Armenian church is in the Quarter, but four other denominations (Syrian, Maronite Catholic, Greek Orthodox, and Anglican) have churches in this part of the city.

                      http://www.xxxishvirtuallibrary.org/....html#Armenian
                      "Nobody can give you freedom. Nobody can give you equality or justice or anything. If you're a man, you take it." ~Malcolm X

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