I never hear anything about the Armenian Quarter in Jerusalem...

[Mos]

Re: I never hear anything about the Armenian Quarter in Jerusalem...

The way religion forms a dividing barrier among people is very evident here and is exactly why i hate all religions. Some here are so brainwashed that they will not entertain the possibility of friendship with anyone who is muslim but the funny thing is it is ok to befriend a zionist in their mind. What makes it even more of a lunacy is that some here will take sides with the very people (zionists) who have been and still are trying to deny us justice and are actively supporting our mortal enemies. Yeh i hate religion and i sure as hell do not like theocracies like Iran nor would i like a chrystian theocracy nor a zionist one but facts remain facts-it was the muslim nations that took in our refugees after the genocide. It was in these muslim countries that the Armenian diaspora prospered and flurished. It was a muslim country (Iran) that allowed Armenia to survive during the war. When the chrystian georgians cut off gas supplies to our country it was the Iranians that brought in gas. Instead of making conclusions using the dim wittted corners of your minds try to look at the reality that is playing out in front of your eyes instead. Russia is our only hope and Iran is the only thing that comes close to a friend for Armenia when it comes to international politics while isreal has never done a single thing for Hayastan but has worked and still does work against our country and people. These are the facts-not some delusional comments.

This is thing I don't understand. Why is it so black and white for you? Being against Islam, automatically makes you a zionist?

I don't take side of Zionists and Israel either, and condemn Israel heavily for their support to Azerbaijan.

One thing people have to understand here is that we have very few real friends. And trying to fake that a certain group is our friends is idiotic (e.g. muslims). You have to realise that no country is going to be friends with armenia because they like us or respect us, only reason is because they want to use us for their own gain. Iran, for example, as much as you want to proclaim they are your brothers, in the end of the day they are just using us, and if they had to make a choice based on ideology, society, or religion, they would chose Azerbaijan or Turkey any day. People here should rid themselves of that childish mindset that certain countries or people like Armenians. To put in the plain terms, the world doesn't give a sh*t about Armenia or Armenians. And sooner you realise this, the sooner you will realise that "friends" is just an empty term....

[Haykakan]

Re: I never hear anything about the Armenian Quarter in Jerusalem...

Mos you have a lot of growing to do befor you can teach me anything. Being against Islam does not make one automaticaly a zionist, some of my remarks are directed to the other members who were spewing zionist propaganada and not you. Nations do indeed oporate in self interest and i say nothing different in this regard. Iran and Armenia share interests thus they act like friends for now and this can change at anytime depending on world events. I never proclaimed anyone to be "my brother". A sure sighn that a person has lost the argument is when that person (you) takes the words of the one he is arguing against (me) and twists them around to make it seem like you have some point but in reality your just saying that i said things which i never did (Why is it so black and white for you? Being against Islam, automatically makes you a zionist?). Like where do i make such a statement? Yeh zionists are anti islam but they are not the only ones who are anti islam thus being against islam does not make you necesseraly into a zionist but zionist are indeed anti islam non the less. Zionists want to make islam look as bad as possible so that their own zionist evile deeds dont look so bad. They label palastinians as people who are unable to govern themselves and live in peace (even when palastinians did this for hundreds of years) so they can justify zionist rule over them. I hate islam, judaism, chrystianity... all religions caus they are all crap used to divide humanity and you are a prime example of this. Islam is no more evile then judaism or chrystiaity. All three of these religions are tainted with more innocent blood then anyone can imagine.From the spanish inquisition to the murderous turcks to the hypocritic zionists(and their perverted form of judaism), they all use religion in the same way to dehumanize other people and justify their slaughter. I remember you in your ignorance proposing a chrystian theocracy in Armenia not long ago thinking it was going to solve Armenias problems somehow. You and your stupid friends were trying to drive Iranian tourists from Armenia not that long ago (probably still are) because of your dumb religious and racist misconseptions. This kind of backwardness is exactly what hurts our nation more then any enemy ever could. The real trouble is that even when people explain to you why this is wrong and how it hurts your country and people-you dont listen, you dont learn, you just continue spewing and doing the same crap that is hurting your country and people. Who knows maybe one day even you might come to your sences-young people change a lot once they are educated and maybe there is still hope for you. Even if you do not get educated, just look at things in a rational way and more often then not you will come to the correct conclusions but you will need to take off your anti muslim/iranian... glasses to do it.

[Mos]

Re: I never hear anything about the Armenian Quarter in Jerusalem...

Ok, just to clear up a few things. I do not have anything against Iranian people or culture, I like their rich culture and I think there are very nice Iranians (I have several Iranian friends). Now, the nice Iranians shouldn't be confused with the many hooligan iranians who come to Yerevan and do all sorts of stupid things, breaking the law, trafficking, drugs, and being a nuisance, those type of Iranians I hate...That is why I was proposing keeping a better eye on people coming into Armenia and making sure these laws are better protected.

When hating religion, remember how much the Armenian Church has helped Armenians over history, and helped preserve our culture, language, and identity. Religion may have caused bad things to happen at times, but in the Armenian case religion has been elemental to survival.

I would maybe have a different view of Islam if it would not be tainted with its elemental role in Armenian Genocide. The very fact that in Islam it is honourable to kill people who do not believe in the same God is disgusting. And with this mindset the killings of so many Armenians, Greeks, and Assyrians occurred...

And finally, what I believe people don't understand also, is that this notion of "friends" that Armenia has is foolish. You must see the world from a more realistic perspective. Countries/Nations care only about their own gains. they will use smaller and more vulnerable countries to do this. So the fact that we have good relations with iran or russia doesn't mean they are long lost brothers or something. They are just being friendly with us at the moment because it is convenient for them and they can get an advantage from us.

[Tigranakert]

Re: I never hear anything about the Armenian Quarter in Jerusalem...

How about how France helped us during Genocide? Are you just going to ignore that? I suggest you get familiar with The Forty Days of Musa Dagh. A great work.

What kind of help, first they were the cause of the destruction of Cilicia and the deaths of tens of thousands of Armenians, and at one time they sent some boats, but that does not mean anything as there were even more Armenians fleeying to ‘muslim’ countries. France has done more harm on Armenia, but I know you have no clue of what happened in history.

So no country should recognize Armenian Genocide, just because it's only words? I bet if your mother country Iran recognized Genocide and European countries didn't you would rush to say how good Iran is for recognizing the Genocide and how important Genocide recognition is. The fact the most countries that have recognized Armenian Genocide are from Europe, and that means they have had the guts to stand up to Turkey. Countries like France and Netherlands have even gone as far as to criminalize the denial of Armenian Genocide! European countries as a whole are more pro-Armenian than Muslim countries. You may also not understand how much economic help has come to Europe from Armenia. But of course you ignore this as well.

You do not understand my words, I say stop with the bullxxxx genocide recognition story, if a country recognizes the genocide this does not mean they are pro-Armenian, these are mere words because most of the countries who have recognized the genocide are the ones who support Turkey economically and military. I live in The Netherlands , and again as most of the things you say are wrong, in the Netherlands they have not criminalized the denial of the Armenian Genocide, in contrary most of the parties are against it and they do not want to harm Turkey and don’t want to include genocide recognition in the talks with Turkey. But again, the genocide is being used for their purposes and not to help the Armenians, so stop that nonsense.
I do not ignore the economic support from Europe, as I do also not ignore the billions of dollars Iran as invested in Armenia in the energy sector and numerous other sectors. I want to counter your anti-muslim racist hysteria that is based upon nothing and your too pro-European stance, even if Europe is the cause of most of the problems for the Armenians, from the genocide to Cilicia, the caus in the middle east too muslim-fundamentalism.

One hundred years ago muslim, xxxs, Christians lived in harmony in the middle east (I have spoken to many elderly people and also read in books how it was before Europe, especially Great Brittain, got involved in the Middle East). For hundreds of years Armenians have flourished and have been the most rich minority in the middle east, till the British came, made up dozens of fake-countries, including Iraq, supported muslim-fundamentalism and supported clashes between different ethnicities and xxxxed up the entire middle east since then. It is Europe who is to blame for the terrorism, war, destruction now that is waging in the middle east, not the ‘muslim’. You are just blind and too selfish to understand this, I think if you read the history of the middle east you will get an heart attack if you hear the things the British did (another discussion is what they did in Pakistan).

So what's next Armenia should be allies with al-Qaeda? I would expect such a idiotic statement from you. And I can't believe that you are so enthusiastic about kissing the ass of every Muslim? It's really disgusting and embarrassing, given the fact so many Armenians died for being Christian and refusing to convert to Islam during the Genocide and also massacres before. You should be ashamed of yourself.

This is like talking to a child, trying to have a serious discussion, you just talk nonsense. Where in the hell did I say we should support al-Qaeda? That’s like me saying you want to have Hitler to reign over Armenia. Everyone can see you are ignoring my arguments, I dare you to discuss my arguments one by one (from my older posts) to see if something sensible can come out of you. I am lucky most of the Armenians are not such a selfish dangerous racist as you are, and the ones who think like you must be put in jail. I am neither pro-European, nor pro-Muslim, I am pro-Armenian and will do anything that is best for my country. Racism does not include this, and Europe (fake Christian countries) is not our holy Messias.

It is so disgusting ‘christian’ countries like Germany supported Turkey during the genocide, it is so disgusting France destroyed Cilicia causing tens of thousands of Armenians to die and flee their homeland. It is so disgusting Israel is supporting Azerbaijan and Turkey. It is so disgusting that people can not think rationally and logical. It is disgusting Christan Germany killed millions of innocent xxxs. Mankind itself is bad from the start, no matter if they are muslim or Christian.

You are just brainwashed by Western propaganda. Let's see what a one influential religious leader in Iran thinks of Karabakh, I can list numerous of Brittish, American, Israeli and French professors and politicians who think the same as this ‘influential’ leader in Iran. What one persons says has nothing to do, you must look at the policy of the country, and Iran has been more pro-Armenian than what ever European nation who ‘Christian’ Armenia alone during numerous of wars.

Stop your bullxxxx pro-European arguments. We should be good with every country in the world, be it muslim, Christian, atheist or what ever it may be.

[KanadaHye]

Re: I never hear anything about the Armenian Quarter in Jerusalem...

Exactly right. Let me just quote the Quran for the skeptics and all the other muslim-loving traitors who call themselves "Armenian".


Qur'an (5:51) - "O you who believe! do not take the xxxs and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people."

So what's wrong with that statement Gunther? Seems to be pretty accurate since the Israel via USA has been waging war against countries that are predominantly Muslim. You can't keep killing people and expect them to like you.

[Tigranakert]

Re: I never hear anything about the Armenian Quarter in Jerusalem...

Exactly right. Let me just quote the Quran for the skeptics and all the other muslim-loving traitors who call themselves "Armenian".


Qur'an (5:51) - "O you who believe! do not take the xxxs and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people."

In the new testament, numerous genocides are committed by god and the Thora has even more harsh texts, which is similar to the Quran (actually, Quran and Thora are very very similar) nothing new. Racist.

In the end, almost everything what is written in the bible (quran, thora) is based upon tsexaqron... but again you would not know this ofcourse (and probably you need someone to translate tsexaqron as you are no Armenian).

[gunther]

Re: I never hear anything about the Armenian Quarter in Jerusalem...

So what's wrong with that statement Gunther? Seems to be pretty accurate since the Israel via USA has been waging war against countries that are predominantly Muslim. You can't keep killing people and expect them to like you.

Again with the Israel bullxxxx. Why does Israel have to be inserted into every discussion?

I merely quoted to you from the Muslim "bible". If you think that any true Muslim can be your friend, I have just shown you the contrary, fair enough?

[gunther]

Re: I never hear anything about the Armenian Quarter in Jerusalem...

In the new testament, numerous genocides are committed by god and the Thora has even more harsh texts, which is similar to the Quran (actually, Quran and Thora are very very similar) nothing new. Racist.

In the end, almost everything what is written in the bible (quran, thora) is based upon tsexaqron... but again you would not know this ofcourse (and probably you need someone to translate tsexaqron as you are no Armenian).

Ask your local Armenian priest if the Old Testament can be compared to the Quran.

[KanadaHye]

Re: I never hear anything about the Armenian Quarter in Jerusalem...

Again with the Israel bullxxxx. Why does Israel have to be inserted into every discussion?

I merely quoted to you from the Muslim "bible". If you think that any true Muslim can be your friend, I have just shown you the contrary, fair enough?

Because we are here to fight the pro zionist bullkaka that's spread by people like you. Bring the facts to the table, not your versions of events.

[Muhaha]

Re: I never hear anything about the Armenian Quarter in Jerusalem...

Because we are here to fight the pro zionist bullkaka that's spread by people like you. Bring the facts to the table, not your versions of events.

As opposed to you, who pretends Israel is the only one who's doing anything wrong in the conflict.