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An example of Armenian-Turkish friendship

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  • An example of Armenian-Turkish friendship

    On the show The Young Turks, the Co-Host of the show is an Armenian girl called Ana Kasparian.

    Her addressing the show from an Armenian perspective:
    There's nothing like getting threatening and hateful emails from my Armenian counterparts. My absolute favorite emails include those that pose the question, "How can you work for the people who orchestrated the Armenian Genocide?"
    She later goes on to explain her thoughts on this.


    The show:
    The Young Turks is The Online News Show. Join hosts Cenk Uygur & Ana Kasparian LIVE weekdays 6pm ET/3pm PT. The Young Turks are fearless in talking about the issues that matter. We are a rare show that combines all of the news that people care about in one place. We cover politics, entertainment, sports, and pop culture; all through a progressive lens. What does it mean to be a “Young Turk?” According to the American Heritage Dictionary; 1. Young progressive or insurgent member of an institution, movement, or political party. 2. Young person who rebels against authority or societal expectations. Become a member of this channel and share your thoughts and opinions with the hosts live with Super Chats and Super Thanks! Just press the “Join” button to get started and gain access to custom badges and emojis.



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    Re: An example of Armenian-Turkish friendship

    There are plenty of examples of Turkish and Armenian friendship, but the issue of the genocide is important to Armenians and what many Armenians usually fear is having it being lost, or have its position in international media and politics undermined by a wave of "Friendliness" on the part of Turks towards their "misunderstanding neighbours".

    That is why I believe Armenians should not hesitate to bring up the issue of genocide with other Turks, yet if they come across a Turk, they should remember that this is a human being first and foremost, and the average human being's preoccupation on this Earth does not, and never will revolve around Armenians, though that is what many seem to demand of Turks (full knowing we won't get it, and thus never seeing them worthy of being anything more than subject to an enemy agenda) given the severity of what we've been through.

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      Re: An example of Armenian-Turkish friendship

      Originally posted by jgk3 View Post
      There are plenty of examples of Turkish and Armenian friendship, but the issue of the genocide is important to Armenians and what many Armenians usually fear is having it being lost, or have its position in international media and politics undermined by a wave of "Friendliness" on the part of Turks towards their "misunderstanding neighbours".

      That is why I believe Armenians should not hesitate to bring up the issue of genocide with other Turks, yet if they come across a Turk, they should remember that this is a human being first and foremost, and the average human being's preoccupation on this Earth does not, and never will revolve around Armenians, though that is what many seem to demand of Turks (full knowing we won't get it, and thus never seeing them worthy of being anything more than subject to an enemy agenda) given the severity of what we've been through.
      Well sad.

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        Re: An example of Armenian-Turkish friendship

        And I suppose there are equivalent friendships being formed between xxxs and ethnic Germans on "The Young National Socialist Germans Show". There is no excuse for the use of a phrase like "Young Turks" - cretins like politicians and journalists might use it in their ignorance, but no Turk or Armenian should.

        I've always been a little disapointed that I was never in the position of being called a "Young Turk" in anything. I secretly hoped someone would call me that at least once, so I could lay them out with a punch. Rewarding ignorance with violence has its charm, but my main reason for doing it would have been to get the legal reaction, and my defense that to be called a "Young Turk" was the equivalent of being called a genocidal mass murderer, and anyone calling a person that deserved the punch. It isn't as if dynamic, up-and-coming individuals are called "Nazis", so why get away with calling them "Young Turks". Alas, I'm now too old to be called it.
        Last edited by bell-the-cat; 08-14-2010, 08:28 PM.
        Plenipotentiary meow!

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          Re: An example of Armenian-Turkish friendship

          You raise a good point... That name is the equivalent for Armenians to what "National Socialist Germans Show" would be for xxxs, and it is a slap in the face to any Armenian who's aware of what the Young Turks were.

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            Re: An example of Armenian-Turkish friendship

            I think that's the problem most Armenians would have with her working for them, and it baffles me that she doesn't see or address that. She just responds to the most idiotic of comments made by people who apparently think the Young Turks are still alive, and this is them (and they apparently are still trying to take over the world)?? Regardless of the fact that they don't demean Armenians, or discuss genocide denial, it is the name that they have given themselves that is offensive, and NOT just to Armenians. Remember, the Young Turks basically carried out a genocide of all Anatolian Christians. That is the bigger issue. The fact that they hired you, or "treat you with respect" is irrelevant. It's what the name they have chosen to give themselves stands for. Either the creators of the show don't understand what the term actually means, are playing dumb, or they're just douche-bags.

            And from what I've read, the main host has denied the Armenian genocide on at least a couple occasions (not on the show), so who cares if they "treat you with respect" if they deny what your ancestors say they went through? Sounds to me like she's ALSO in denial to justify the fact she works there to herself (as well as others). I have seen the show, and seen her on it before, but I didn't know she was Armenian till now. Wish I didn't find out, to be honest.

            This is not an example of Armenian-Turkish friendship, Azar. This is an example of an Armenian who has embarrassed her people in the worst way possible by selling them/herself out to advance her career. If she truly had a spine, she'd ask the host point blank what he thinks about the genocide. Better yet, since you're in charge of booking political guests for the show, and the subject has been in the news quite a bit the last few years, why not get Tanar Akcam, or another authority on the subject, and discuss that topic live for one of the episodes? Wouldn't that make a great topic for a "progressive political show"? Or have you made an unspoken mutual agreement to stay silent on the subject, and consider that "mutual respect" for each other?

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            • #7
              Re: An example of Armenian-Turkish friendship

              Originally posted by Crimson Glow View Post
              And from what I've read, the main host has denied the Armenian genocide on at least a couple occasions
              Link/source?

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              • #8
                Re: An example of Armenian-Turkish friendship

                Originally posted by Azar View Post
                Link/source?
                Here Azar jan

                Is Mr. Uygur a genocide denier? In his two letters dated 1991 and 1999 respectively Cenk expressed his disagreement with labelling of events in 1915 as genocide, thus effectively siding with the view of Turkish government on the issue. However, the fact that an Armenian is part of the Young Turks right now and Cenk's recent admiration of Samantha Power who is an avid supporter of the Armenian cause, logically leads to the conclusion that Cenk may have changed his mind. Or has he? That's what both Armenian and Turks as well as all the other interested parties would like to know. Here is the copied and pasted text of his earlier letters with the links to the websites it was taken from:

                http://www.theyoungturks.com/story/2...enian-Genocide
                Last edited by ashot24; 08-15-2010, 02:20 AM.

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                  Re: An example of Armenian-Turkish friendship

                  Originally posted by ashot24 View Post
                  Here Azar jan
                  Young Turks? WTF. F&ck turks. There is no friendship with enemies. Cooperation, maybe? Business, maybe? Friendship, f&ck no. What's your agenda here, azar? Turkish propaganda to get the diaspora Armenians more sympathetic with Turkey? If, not, then please explain, because you first come here and start promoting the azeris in Iran as an iranian group not to be confused with turks, then you post this? So, we should read what you have to say because, "obviously" it wouldn't be in your agenda to start slowly pushing the "armenian-turkish" friendship bullsh!t. Please, explain, I'm interested.

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                    Re: An example of Armenian-Turkish friendship

                    Originally posted by ashot24 View Post
                    Here Azar jan
                    Thank you.

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