Who is the Armenian girl that our guys strive to marry.

[Sip]

Re: Who is the Armenian girl that our guys strive to marry.

There are many kinds of "western women". As much as some like to put down feminism, it has had good and bad effects: The good is that now there are independent women that have earning power and don't need a man to survive. The "bad" is that the traditional marriage thing that so many old-timers like to cling to just doesn't work anymore. People get together, go their separate ways, have a lot more freedom and less need to commit. This isn't necessarily bad unless there are kids involved.

But "western" girls are MUCH less dependent on their men's money than the traditional girls that depended on the man's money 100%.

[KanadaHye]

Re: Who is the Armenian girl that our guys strive to marry.

And for the record, "ending up alone" is really not so bad if the alternative is ending up with a "traditional" type of guy that treats women like his property.

"ending up alone" is really not so bad if the alternative is ending up with a western type of girl that treats men like a work horse and cheque book.

[Sip]

Re: Who is the Armenian girl that our guys strive to marry.

haha, let me take a crack.

Looks
You are probably not the very attractive type. Most guys would rate you around 6/10, maybe less. You don't get flooded with attention, but you get enough to take it for granted (meaning that it barely registers consciously, but subconsciously you expect it). You claim, to yourself and others, that looks aren't as important as intelligence, both to yourself and in your choice of a mate. Utter lies of course. If you had the choice you'd be the one every girl is jealous of; but I'm sure you'd have a hard time admitting it to yourself. I bet you even attempt to "convince" yourself otherwise by mentioning it to friends/colleagues at opportune moments.

Personality
You have a superiority complex. Though you may not openly admit it to others, you feel that you are much smarter than most (or all) men around you, and as a result you have a hard time accepting criticism. You surround yourself with others who would most likely agree with your points of view so you can reinforce your own idea of yourself. You may even have a decent IQ score and pride yourself with it (Secretly or openly you probably believe that your higher intelligence makes you better than others). You have absolutely no trouble applying twisted logic to all your interactions. The double standard comes naturally, and you may not even notice it. If you cannot beat an argument you'll find other ways to "win". If given power you most likely would abuse it, but will justify it with the fact that since you're intelligent, smart and "better" then your point of view is correct and needs no scrutiny.

Am I getting there? 60%, 70%, 80%?

Here is a hint.

Future => 12 cats (or maybe a whipped husband whom you'll treat as your slave. There are a LOT of women like you in the academia (in the west). And most end up either alone or with a poor schmo who gets pushed around).

But, I'm sure you're not one of them

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see ya'll in 30 days. Another ban coming soon.

Come on .. be honest ... you copied this out of one of those generic self evaluation quizes out of a women's magazine, right? The language sort of reminds me of the "horoscope" type drivels that you see all over the place

I haven't followed this thread much but I could only hope there are a lot more women in academia like Siggie. And for the record, "ending up alone" is really not so bad if the alternative is ending up with a "traditional" type of guy that treats women like his property.

[bell-the-cat]

Re: Who is the Armenian girl that our guys strive to marry.

Perhaps some of our members who reside in Armenia can answer your question.

Do such people exist as members?

[KanadaHye]

Re: Who is the Armenian girl that our guys strive to marry.

Isn't there an Armenian saying about women being like wool i.e. requiring beating to make soft?

Never heard of this before.

[Siggie]

Re: Who is the Armenian girl that our guys strive to marry.

Words hardly ever change behaviour once behaviour sets in. Behaviour is learned from example and is difficult to change. It's something that has to be taught from the onset and society as a whole at the moment doesn't do a great job of setting an example. If there are Armenians that think this is acceptable behaviour, then I don't know where they learned it from.

If every individual waits to see a change in society, that change will never come.
Isn't there an Armenian saying about women being like wool i.e. requiring beating to make soft?
Perhaps some of our members who reside in Armenia can answer your question. Unfortunately, I fear they've long since checked out of this thread.

[KanadaHye]

Re: Who is the Armenian girl that our guys strive to marry.

So wouldn't it help reduce it if Armenians stand up and say this is unacceptable behavior?

Words hardly ever change behaviour once behaviour sets in. Behaviour is learned from example and is difficult to change. It's something that has to be taught from the onset and society as a whole at the moment doesn't do a great job of setting an example. If there are Armenians that think this is acceptable behaviour, then I don't know where they learned it from.

[Siggie]

Re: Who is the Armenian girl that our guys strive to marry.

Domestic abuse stems from society as a whole.

So wouldn't it help reduce it if Armenians stand up and say this is unacceptable behavior?

Also, no... I didn't say people are always rational. Sadly, we're often not, although we should always strive to be.

[KanadaHye]

Re: Who is the Armenian girl that our guys strive to marry.

Answering questions with questions? Note, I'm talking about individual adults and we you made that comment in the context of talking about domestic abuse. That is why I asked you that specific question which you deliberately did not answer.
Ah, so now people lack self-control?

Domestic abuse stems from society as a whole. You can't factor out all the external environmental elements that cause it. You're asking if there are any reasons why someone abuses another person. If you're believe that we act on logic then there would have to be a reason. What those reasons are/were are only known by the people involved and if there isn't a witness, nobody truly knows what goes on. Men and women tend to lose their marbles every now and then which is why it's good to have other people around to set them straight.

[Siggie]

Re: Who is the Armenian girl that our guys strive to marry.

Are there justified reasons for people fighting? Are there justified reasons for war? Are there justified reasons for women beating their husbands? Sisters fighting with brothers? Maybe we are just violent animals with no self control.

Answering questions with questions? Note, I'm talking about individual adults and we you made that comment in the context of talking about domestic abuse. That is why I asked you that specific question which you deliberately did not answer.
Ah, so now people lack self-control?