Who is the Armenian girl that our guys strive to marry.

[levon]

Re: Who is the Armenian girl that our guys strive to marry.

Where did 1960 come from? Why are you so hung up on 1960s? What is the point of me "proving" these things? I am very very confused. The entire argument is over what "traditional" wife means. What do you mean by "traditional wife"?

Ok, let's just say you're full of sh!t and leave it at that.
P.S. Most of the goodies that women are used to came after the 1960s.

[KanadaHye]

Re: Who is the Armenian girl that our guys strive to marry.

Yah! All of a sudden when women have all these goodies in the US he wants to call them "traditional"! 1960s is far from traditional. A lot of women in other "traditional" countries don't even have what women in US had in 1960s!!! (e.g. a lot of the arab/muslim countries today who seem to still be 300 years or so behind the rest of the western world)

Those same countries were ahead at some point.... that's a rather weak argument. 8% of Americans had plumbing in the early 1900's.... pretty sad considering the ancients had a pretty well designed water disbursement systems in place. 1900 years to figure out indoor plumbing....

[KanadaHye]

Re: Who is the Armenian girl that our guys strive to marry.

There are many kinds of "western women". As much as some like to put down feminism, it has had good and bad effects: The good is that now there are independent women that have earning power and don't need a man to survive. The "bad" is that the traditional marriage thing that so many old-timers like to cling to just doesn't work anymore. People get together, go their separate ways, have a lot more freedom and less need to commit. This isn't necessarily bad unless there are kids involved.

But "western" girls are MUCH less dependent on their men's money than the traditional girls that depended on the man's money 100%.

The problem is that men are directly competing with women for salary so 2 people working now have the same or less buying power than 1 person had before. The reason I say less buying power is because they both spend a lot of their income to travel to work and back yet no body is home to keep tabs on home economics. It's basically become a fully automated system where you can take money out of the system and it wouldn't make a difference.

Ok, let's just say you're full of sh!t and leave it at that.
P.S. Most of the goodies that women are used to came after the 1960s.

Women flocked to America for washing machines

[Sip]

Re: Who is the Armenian girl that our guys strive to marry.

Ok, let's just say you're full of sh!t and leave it at that.

Is that really the best you can do when someone asks you what you mean?

[Sip]

Re: Who is the Armenian girl that our guys strive to marry.

Those same countries were ahead at some point.... that's a rather weak argument. 8% of Americans had plumbing in the early 1900's.... pretty sad considering the ancients had a pretty well designed water disbursement systems in place. 1900 years to figure out indoor plumbing....

Plumbing? You still want to go back to discuss how the ancients were advanced in medicine etc compared to today? That is a separate thread bud Last I remember you conceded that you were comparing greeks to romans in the ancient days

We are talking about women's rights. In the last 100 years, the western world has made tremendous progress while some of the more "traditional" worlds (especially islamic countries) are still stuck in the middle ages. This has nothing to do with immigrants coming to a new world not having plumbing as soon as they arrived

[Sip]

Re: Who is the Armenian girl that our guys strive to marry.

The problem is that men are directly competing with women for salary so 2 people working now have the same or less buying power than 1 person had before. ...

This is simply not true. It is true that men and women are both competing for a lot of the same jobs but that does not mean they each have less buying power. That assumes economy didn't grow which is just wrong.

[KanadaHye]

Re: Who is the Armenian girl that our guys strive to marry.

This is simply not true. It is true that men and women are both competing for a lot of the same jobs but that does not mean they each have less buying power. That assumes economy didn't grow which is just wrong.

You left out the part where I said "because they are spending a lot of their income on traveling to/from work"

[Siggie]

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Damn, you're accusing me of specifically targeting you, yet you do the same thing. I am what I am, and I don't give two sh!ts about what you think I am. And, last of all, you are but a woman. I don't give a sh!t about what you think.

Perfect for you then because I don't think much of you at all.

Sure, women want the right to say a guy raped her just to get back at him. Them, after 6 months (after he gets raped in jail) they'll tell the cops that she was lying. But, they don't want to be held responsibly for destroying the guys life, since they want equal rights.

Any person who falsely accuses someone should have to pay the consequences: criminally and civilly.
The solution is not to stop prosecuting rapes because a very few people that are screwed up in the head did some incredibly unethical and unthinkable thing.

I mean, they want equal chance at being a fire-fighter so standards should be lowered to allow more women in.
They want, they want, they want. It's not about equality, it's about wants.

I don't think the standards for firefighters should be lowered to permit more women. I think if those standards reflect what's necessary to do that job then it would be a terrible idea to change them. I don't think most women want the standards or requirements changed for them. They just want an opportunity; to be considered on the same footing.

Do you know why you are a feminists? It's because your rhetoric, your reason and your conclusions are based on feelings.

Uhh... right. That one definitely doesn't stick.
All evidence based... ALL.

[KanadaHye]

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We are talking about women's rights. In the last 100 years, the western world has made tremendous progress while some of the more "traditional" worlds (especially islamic countries) are still stuck in the middle ages. This has nothing to do with immigrants coming to a new world not having plumbing as soon as they arrived

Uhm... yeah but why are they smarter? Let's face it, take away the western militaries that rule over them and immigration and the "western world" is pretty screwed.

[levon]

Re: Who is the Armenian girl that our guys strive to marry.

Perfect for you then because I don't think much of you at all.

Thanks, I didn't think so. Harpies usually detest me.

Any person who falsely accuses someone should have to pay the consequences: criminally and civilly.

Awesome, then you should start a campaign to get rid of the slogan that "Prosecuting women that falsely accuse of rape will keep the real victims from coming forth."

The solution is not to stop prosecuting rapes because a very few people that are screwed up in the head did some incredibly unethical and unthinkable thing.

You're good. Did I say that? no. Who're you arguing with again.

I don't think the standards for firefighters should be lowered to permit more women. I think if those standards reflect what's necessary to do that job then it would be a terrible idea to change them. I don't think most women want the standards or requirements changed for them. They just want an opportunity; to be considered on the same footing.

Great, I'm sure you'll be greeted with respects from the femtards when you suggest that firefighter standards shouldn't be lowered. Btw, in NY the standards are lower for women. Oh, the army also has lower standards.