Who is the Armenian girl that our guys strive to marry.

[Mos]

Re: Who is the Armenian girl that our guys strive to marry.

Why aren't they taken care of then. Anyone that goes to Armenia to live off the government is deluded; they don't even take care of their own orphaned children, let alone adults or foreigners.
Don't then say that you don't want black people there because they're poor or whatever. Be honest about why don't want them there and join the Klan already.



Wow, I wonder if other countries say the same about Armenians and why on Earth they'd have developed the stereotype that we're all criminals...




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Well every country has poverty. Including Armenia. My heart goes out for the people in poverty, but I can say that there are programs being enacted to help these people both from government and diaspora. Of course, our limited resources should be concentrated on Armenians not foreigners.

I don't want black people because the type of black people that come to Armenia are not people any country wants. Those blacks are generally not educated well, prone to criminal activities (has been done), and so forth. We shouldn't let such people use Armenia as a transit country. It doesn't better society in any way.

Yeah there's Armenian Mafia, there's also Italian Mafia, Russian Mafia, Greek Mafia, and the list goes on. Oh the Georgian Mafia in Europe is notorious. You should hear what people say about them.

[Siggie]

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I'm sorry but those people are Armenians. We have a duty to care for those Armenians in Armenia. We shouldn't have a duty to care for poor migrant workers from Africa using Armenia as a transit country.

Why aren't they taken care of then. Anyone that goes to Armenia to live off the government is deluded; they don't even take care of their own orphaned children, let alone adults or foreigners.
Don't then say that you don't want black people there because they're poor or whatever. Be honest about why don't want them there and join the Klan already.

Especially since they do activities like this:

Wow, I wonder if other countries say the same about Armenians and why on Earth they'd have developed the stereotype that we're all criminals...

52 arrested in sweeping Medicare fraud case

The defendants, largely from L.A. and New York, allegedly are part of an Armenian organized crime outfit. Feds say they stole doctors' and patients' identities and submitted $160 million in bogus claims.

October 14, 2010

Authorities arrested more than two dozen Los Angeles-area residents early Wednesday for their alleged roles in a nationwide scheme to bilk Medicare out of more than $160 million.

The investigation, dubbed Diagnosis Dollars, resulted in the arrests of 52 people across the U.S. in what authorities described as "the largest Medicare fraud scheme ever perpetrated by a single criminal enterprise."

The defendants allegedly are members or associates of an Armenian "organized crime enterprise" known as Mirzoyan-Terdjanian, according to federal law enforcement officials. They allegedly stole doctors' identities and used the information to enroll the phantom physicians as providers in Medicare, authorities alleged.

They then set up bogus offices and, using stolen beneficiary information, began billing for procedures that never occurred, according to a Department of Justice news release. Nationwide, the ring operated at least 118 phony clinics in 25 states and billed Medicare for some $163 million, officials said.

"Healthcare fraud that targets the Medicare program makes victims of all Americans," Steven Martinez, who heads the FBI office in Los Angeles, said in a prepared statement. In addition to the FBI and IRS, the probe involved local law enforcement agencies in various cities.

The investigation, officials said, was aimed at "top tier" medical fraud operators across the country and resulted in the indictments of 73 people in California, Georgia, New Mexico, New York and Ohio.

The Los Angeles-area defendants, many of whom are related, set up at least eight fake medical clinics and submitted $17 million in false claims to Medicare — $8 million of which were paid, federal officials alleged.

Some of the Los Angeles-area defendants were also allegedly involved in forged prescription sales and the illegal distribution of OxyContin, a painkiller so potent it is referred to as synthetic heroin and sells for up to $80 a pill on the street.

According to federal law enforcement officials, the alleged criminal enterprise is named for principal leaders Davit Mirzoyan and Robert Terdjanian, who are both charged in the indictment. Mirzoyan is based in Glendale, Terdjanian in Brooklyn, N.Y., authorities said.

Also charged is Armen Kazarian, described in an indictment filed in New York as a "Vor." The term refers to a select group of high-level criminals from the former Soviet Union, officials said.

Kazarian, based in Glendale, is the first alleged "Vor" ever charged with a racketeering offense, officials said. The last time a "Vor" was arrested on any federal charge was in 1996, officials added.

Some of the defendants could face life in prison and fines of $1 million or more if convicted, officials said.

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Artak Karamyan, 28
May 15, 2008 | 7:40 am

Artak Karamyan, 28, a white man, was shot and killed at 12459 Oxnard Street in North Hollywood about 7 p.m. Tuesday, May 20. Within minutes, Paylak Harutyunay, 29, also a white man, was shot several times near the intersection of Vanowen Street and Coldwater Canyon Boulevard. Both men died at the scene.

Officers from the Los Angeles Police Department's North Hollywood Division responded to a report of a shooting, according to police, and found Karamyan dead with a gunshot wound to his chest. A few minutes later, a second shooting was reported about a mile and a half away. According to authorities, officers found Harutyunay fatally wounded from a "car-to-car" shooting. Police said Karamyan and Hrutyunay had been involved in a dispute with a group of men.

Police arrested Avetis Vartanyan, 24, on suspicion of murder. Authorities said a pistol was recovered from the yard of a home where Vartanyan had allegedly hidden.

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[Mos]

Re: Who is the Armenian girl that our guys strive to marry.

Neither are these people businessmen or academicians.








I'd be more afraid to cross one of the many Armo thugs, err I mean "businessmen," in Armenia.

Sounds like weak attempts at justification for racism to me. Let's agree to disagree.

I'm sorry but those people are Armenians. We have a duty to care for those Armenians in Armenia. We shouldn't have a duty to care for poor migrant workers from Africa using Armenia as a transit country. Especially since they do activities like this:

A criminal group of Africans arrested in Armenia
15:50 . 19/03
Using operative data, the coworkers of Vagharshapat’s criminal intelligence department of the police have revealed and arrested a criminal group formed of foreigners in Tairov village in the region of Armavir.

The arrested are citizens of Liberia, Cote d’Ivoire and Nigeria. The foreigners were apprehended for a major fraud. The police found and confiscated a safety box, 1, 500 USD and special black chemical at the place of their residence.

It turned out that the criminal group has persuaded citizens that allegedly it is possible to make USD by means of that chemical, which doesn’t differ from the original currency and has demanded money beforehand to cover ongoing expenses. According to preliminary information, in this way the criminal group has managed to get 4mln USD.

[Siggie]

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Have you seen the HIV rates in the poor African countries? They are at disaster levels, and for one, I wouldn't want something like HIV spreading more in Armenia. That's just one example. Second, many of those people are poor migrants. They aren't businessmen or academicians, but poor migrants, and will be more likely to commit crimes. They are fleeing to Europe not Armenia. Keep that in mind. Armenia is just a temporary place for them. Hence, they aren't going to me much mindful, after all, their mind is set on Europe not Armenia. I'm not being prejudiced just following common sense. Of course, we're talking like there's a huge influx of them. There isn't fortunately. More Persians than Africans, that's for sure.

Neither are these people businessmen or academicians (academics, no?).








I'd be more afraid to cross one of the many Armo thugs, err I mean "businessmen," in Armenia.

Sounds like weak attempts at justification for racism to me. Let's agree to disagree.

[Mos]

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Couldn't you argue that almost any resource they use takes something away from Armenians?

I don't like this reasoning. It's bigoted and racist. You have no reason to believe they're more likely to spread disease or commit crimes. Armenia is full of the poor who are fed up with a country that hasn't taken care of them at all even with respect to basic needs. They're not going to be discouraged or destitute enough to commit a crime? They're not living in poor enough conditions for disease to be a concern? If they're renting apartments, they're far better off than many Armenians. If they fled a country that was even worse, don't you think they'd be on extra good behavior in their new country? Especially when the majority still stare like they've never seen a black person in their lives? If you're someplace where you're going to be readily labeled and blamed for any ill, I would think, assuming you'd like to stay and be welcomed there, you wouldn't be out committing crimes.
See, so if there's no actual reason to feel this is going to happen, then you're just being prejudiced.

Maybe with regards to the treatment of women, you might find them to be a welcome addition to Armenia. Perhaps they can provide instruction on xxxxoral mutilation?

Have you seen the HIV rates in the poor African countries? They are at disaster levels, and for one, I wouldn't want something like HIV spreading more in Armenia. That's just one example. Second, many of those people are poor migrants. They aren't businessmen or academicians, but poor migrants, and will be more likely to commit crimes. They are fleeing to Europe not Armenia. Keep that in mind. Armenia is just a temporary place for them. Hence, they aren't going to me much mindful, after all, their mind is set on Europe not Armenia. I'm not being prejudiced just following common sense. Of course, we're talking like there's a huge influx of them. There isn't fortunately. More Persians than Africans, that's for sure.

[Siggie]

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They are coming from mainly, poor African countries. There even some from Jamaica believe it or not. Apparently it is easier to get to US/Europe from Armenia so they use it as a transit point. They rent apartments and many live in them.

I just don't want Armenia to become multi-ethnic or start catering to the needs of other ethnic groups at the expensive of Armenians. Of course, we are far from that, so don't have to worry yet. Not to mention Africans from poor countries, that are such migrant workers can cause crime, spread disease, etc.

Couldn't you argue that almost any resource they use takes something away from Armenians?

I don't like this reasoning. It's bigoted and racist. You have no reason to believe they're more likely to spread disease or commit crimes. Armenia is full of the poor who are fed up with a country that hasn't taken care of them at all even with respect to basic needs. They're not going to be discouraged or destitute enough to commit a crime? They're not living in poor enough conditions for disease to be a concern? If they're renting apartments, they're far better off than many Armenians. If they fled a country that was even worse, don't you think they'd be on extra good behavior in their new country? Especially when the majority still stare like they've never seen a black person in their lives? If you're someplace where you're going to be readily labeled and blamed for any ill, I would think, assuming you'd like to stay and be welcomed there, you wouldn't be out committing crimes.
See, so if there's no actual reason to feel this is going to happen, then you're just being prejudiced.

Maybe with regards to the treatment of women, you might find them to be a welcome addition to Armenia. Perhaps they can provide instruction on xxxxoral mutilation?

[Mos]

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As for the black people... Where are they emigrating from?
Personally, I don't have an issue with the color of anyone's skin. We're all African.

They are coming from mainly, poor African countries. There even some from Jamaica believe it or not. Apparently it is easier to get to US/Europe from Armenia so they use it as a transit point. They rent apartments and many live in them.

I just don't want Armenia to become multi-ethnic or start catering to the needs of other ethnic groups at the expensive of Armenians. Of course, we are far from that, so don't have to worry yet. Not to mention Africans from poor countries, that are such migrant workers can cause crime, spread disease, etc.

[Siggie]

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Oh I meant that the blacks/Persians aren't a big problem yet, not the Persian-Armenians. My sentence wasn't very clear I guess.

Oh I see. No, you weren't very clear. If it follows a statement about a particular group, the natural assumption is that you're still talking about that group. I thought you were going to tell me about how the Iranian diaspora was somehow a problem.

As for the black people... Where are they emigrating from?
Personally, I don't have an issue with the color of anyone's skin. We're all African.

I know, right?

They aren't a big problem... yet.

Hi there, Stranger. I'm glad you're still stopping in now and again.

[Mos]

Re: Who is the Armenian girl that our guys strive to marry.

I know, right?

They aren't a big problem... yet.

Oh I meant that the blacks/Persians aren't a big problem yet, not the Persian-Armenians. My sentence wasn't very clear I guess.

[TomServo]

Re: Who is the Armenian girl that our guys strive to marry.

Um I have no problem with Iranian-Armenians. Why would I?

I know, right?

They aren't a big problem... yet.